Do not buy Anti Hero Labs Venom- Label lies

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Basically the product claims to include 100mg DMAA in it. Well, I have taken it twice now, and I am not experiencing anything resembling DMAA. Not even the feel or strength of DMHA. Not even the general vaso restrictive effects of DMAA. Do not buy this, in fact, this company/pre workout should be spoken against, and fail until they can prove they put DMAA in their pre workout. Who knows, maybe they put a DS in it? Who knows what I am taking when taking Venom.
 
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Not sure why they wouldn't, seems really stupid to me. I've used real dmaa, and this is not real DMAA.
Hmmm. I've used several tubs of OG Mesomorph and other DMAA containing supplements. I wonder how Venom feels like. I used to take up to 2.5 scoops of Og mesomorph which is alot I think
 
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Hmmm. I've used several tubs of OG Mesomorph and other DMAA containing supplements. I wonder how Venom feels like. I used to take up to 2.5 scoops of Og mesomorph which is alot I think
That is a ton. Like 150mg of dmaa, and probably over 600mg caff. OG Kraken smokes this out of the water, and I just finished a tub of that.
 
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Why not email them and let them know? Maybe there was a bad batch? Bad mix? It has happened plenty before. Nothing but good reviews of the product I have seen.
 
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Why not email them and let them know? Maybe there was a bad batch? Bad mix? It has happened plenty before. Nothing but good reviews of the product I have seen.
Can you link me some reviews. I did searches through various browsers and couldn't find positive or negatives against it. Decided to take the gamble. Also, people that are teens or early 20s probably don't even know what dmaa feels like, so they would be bad reviewers.
 
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Tried it back in October, I think. I agree, didn’t seem to work even half as good as Mesomorph did. Agreed
 
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You just finished kraken, so maybe you’re burnt out and need to cycle off these strong pres? That happens!

Here’s one of many killer reviews on this

You might’ve got a bad batch as someone else said!
 
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You just finished kraken, so maybe you’re burnt out and need to cycle off these strong pres? That happens!

Here’s one of many killer reviews on this

You might’ve got a bad batch as someone else said!
I thought about having a tolerance to the DMAA, but I know that even if I begin to lose the hard hitting effects of DMAA due to tolerance, the vaso constriction effects still come regardles.. On Venom, no vaso constriction. Bad batch? I don't know. I had seen that Youtube video before.
 
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Just know this product is a gamble. A reason you don't find any written reviews on it. Or other forum info when you do a browser search.
 
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Okay, they emailed me back asking me to send them pics. I asked for COAs on raws.

I took for third time today, shook can vigorously again for the 3rd time. Was hoping 3rd times the charm. I can definitely feel another stim now other than the caffiene now, but still uncertain if it is DMAA. There is no thermogenic effect, so must not be a lot of ephedra extract, and no hidden yohimbine.
 
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Okay, they emailed me back asking me to send them pics. I asked for COAs on raws.

I took for third time today, shook can vigorously again for the 3rd time. Was hoping 3rd times the charm. I can definitely feel another stim now other than the caffiene now, but still uncertain if it is DMAA. There is no thermogenic effect, so must not be a lot of ephedra extract, and no hidden yohimbine.
Ok so each batch of Venom is different, way different. They’re quality control is the worst! I took a serving back in August and I got the typically DMAA tunnel vision, insane focus, and intensity that I’m used to with DMAA. I was so happy I found that in a pre that I ordered 4 more tubs.
When I finished my first tub I opened the next and felt nothing but a slight uptake in energy. I looked and it had a different lot # then the first tub. Then I opened a third tube with yet another lot # and I got a bad flush feeling and my entire body turned red and started to burn. My wife was so worried she wanted me to go to the ER.
Then I looked at my 4th tub and it happened to have the same lot # as the first. I tried that 4th tub and it had the typically DMAA tunnel vision, insane focus, and intensity that I had with the first tub.
Basically it looks like they had different manufacturers make different lots because the numbers are not even the same sequence. Some lot #s have letters while other have dashes and just numbers. They look like a fly by night company. I would not trust them. I had to throw out tub number 2 and 3. Such a waste of money
 
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Ok so each batch of Venom is different, way different. They’re quality control is the worst! I took a serving back in August and I got the typically DMAA tunnel vision, insane focus, and intensity that I’m used to with DMAA. I was so happy I found that in a pre that I ordered 4 more tubs.
When I finished my first tub I opened the next and felt nothing but a slight uptake in energy. I looked and it had a different lot # then the first tub. Then I opened a third tube with yet another lot # and I got a bad flush feeling and my entire body turned red and started to burn. My wife was so worried she wanted me to go to the ER.
Then I looked at my 4th tub and it happened to have the same lot # as the first. I tried that 4th tub and it had the typically DMAA tunnel vision, insane focus, and intensity that I had with the first tub.
Basically it looks like they had different manufacturers make different lots because the numbers are not even the same sequence. Some lot #s have letters while other have dashes and just numbers. They look like a fly by night company. I would not trust them. I had to throw out tub number 2 and 3. Such a waste of money
Thanks for your experience. 4th try today, did not hit me hard this morning. I have dosed fasted each time.
 
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So there is definitely niacin in this, as I have gotten the niacin flush twice now. Niacin is not listed on the ingredients. What else is not listed? What is listed, but not really included?
 
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Just get yourself pure ephedrine tabs. Beats any pre workout on the market
 
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I have a tub of this but have not opened it up yet, wondering if I got one of the bad batches.

I will say this, I still have some bulk DMAA in my freezer from 2014ish and nothing on the market feels like that today.

The euphoria and mental confidence I get from just 50mg plus some caffeine is amazing.
 
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I have a tub of this but have not opened it up yet, wondering if I got one of the bad batches.

I will say this, I still have some bulk DMAA in my freezer from 2014ish and nothing on the market feels like that today.

The euphoria and mental confidence I get from just 50mg plus some caffeine is amazing.
I remember the original mesomorph had 300mg caffeine and 65 mg dmaa per serving. It was an awesome pre!
 
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I’m looking at one goin for $88 on eBay...That’s nuts! I feel bad for anyone jonesin’ bad enough to pay that!

(Seller has like every flavor and some are priced differently)
Cheaper places exist if one uses Google lol
 
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I have a tub of this but have not opened it up yet, wondering if I got one of the bad batches.

I will say this, I still have some bulk DMAA in my freezer from 2014ish and nothing on the market feels like that today.

The euphoria and mental confidence I get from just 50mg plus some caffeine is amazing.
Send it back and get a refund. It is blah, and do not experience DMAA in it. Not sure if can really trust anything on the label.
 
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I’m looking at one goin for $88 on eBay...That’s nuts! I feel bad for anyone jonesin’ bad enough to pay that!

(Seller has like every flavor and some are priced differently)
I should have stocked up on mesomorph org before they reformulated and then sold them! ahh
 
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I've used several tubs of Venom, love it. Good stim effect for me every time. Zero niacin flush feel but at times will get the beta alanine tingles bc of BA being in it.
 
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I've used several tubs of Venom, love it. Good stim effect for me every time. Zero niacin flush feel but at times will get the beta alanine tingles bc of BA being in it.
I guess at one point they put what they said they put in it. Every time I take it I get niacin flush, and little to no BA tingles. Also no dmaa experience, and do not really feel any ephedra extract.
 
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I did just that. I was getting 3-4 a month on my rep order for a long time, ended up selling ~20 of them for $80-$125/bottle
Nice! That's a way to bank some money! Wish they would come back with the original version!
 
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That's crazy. I bought a tub today from my local store and took 3/4 a scoop and it was a TOO strong because I haven't taken dmaa in a while, only DMHA. 15 minutes into my workout I was like holy ****, I'm at work 2 hours later and still feeling it.
 
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That's crazy. I bought a tub today from my local store and took 3/4 a scoop and it was a TOO strong because I haven't taken dmaa in a while, only DMHA. 15 minutes into my workout I was like holy ****, I'm at work 2 hours later and still feeling it.
You got really lucky. Been taking it everyday to finish the tub, and it has been very sub par every day, save one day.
 
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Didn’t want to get a refund? Or they wouldn’t give ya one?
Got it off of Ebay from someone, so I didnt think a refund was really a viable option for me since I didnt get it directly from manufacturer.
 
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Opened up my unopened tub of Sparta Nutrition DMHA Kraken... wow, what a world of difference. Huge instant energy and focus, such a difference compared to the "stronger" Venom.
 

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