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I'll be starting a 4 week VL DMZ run in a couple weeks. I'm thinking of stacking with FS Androtest, but am open to suggestions whether that be oral or TD.
 
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Also considering Epiandro, specifically OL Sup3r Epi. Would love some experienced feedback on something synergistic with DMZ.
 
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What dose are you running the dmz at? Are you willing to pin?
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
I like modern 4-andro via TD or oral cyclosomal/liposomal delivery so much I am actually looking to loose my last 10x German AP.de Test E 300 vials.

I also just got 2x bottle of Fusion Androtest, should be quite good.. no real need for you to pin Test E, but PM me otherwise.
 
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What are some well reviewed 4-andro's? Never used a TD product so that's completely foreign to me, but open to options. Like I said really looking for something to compliment DMZ for a clean bulk.

Have you used Androtest before? I didn't find a lot of information on it, particularly recent reviews.
 
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What are some well reviewed 4-andro's? Never used a TD product so that's completely foreign to me, but open to options. Like I said really looking for something to compliment DMZ for a clean bulk.

Have you used Androtest before? I didn't find a lot of information on it, particularly recent reviews.
Well, Iconic just release Alpha Four (TD). Their new black series products have been getting great reviews and are top notch.
 
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Well, Iconic just release Alpha Four (TD). Their new black series products have been getting great reviews and are top notch.
Looks good but has a major price tag on it. Is 225mg in 5 pumps equivalent to a full oral dose?
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
I’m on day 8 of VL dmz at 30mg a day. So far so good other than some lethargy but a power nap has helped. I’m might stay at 30 for 6 weeks or bump it up I’m 240lbs at 6’4.
 
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How quickly did it kick in?
First day and not even joking. The pump I had after first dose was insane. Day 3 my wife was asking why my chest looks pumped all day and back feeling tighter
 
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First day and not even joking. The pump I had after first dose was insane. Day 3 my wife was asking why my chest looks pumped all day and back feeling tighter
Awesome, I cant wait to get it started.
 
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Any other suggestions for a DMZ compliment? Still thinking of Androtest or Iconic Alpha Four. Would anyone recommend Epiandro over a 4-andro?
 
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Whats the best way to take this? Stomach have to be empty?

How should the dose be separated?

Lastly, can it be taken along side liver care supps?
 
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Whats the best way to take this? Stomach have to be empty?

How should the dose be separated?

Lastly, can it be taken along side liver care supps?
@xR1pp3Rx @ZOO Could you guys provide some input? I'm about to run zombie too.
Also, any suggestions on a good compliment to DMZ are welcomed, thinking of Alpha Four or Androtest.
 
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my hands down favorite is DMZ paired with trest. you can get alpha 7 at PRE and i think they have a sale running~ u will want the TD.
 
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that dose is WAY to high. Its the same with people running superdrol or msten, they take 30mg msten or 20mg superdrol, when in reality msten can be run at 10mg a day for the same effect and superdrol can be ran even lower
The pills are 15mg, so that's the lowest dose you're going to take unless you half the capsule. I think 30mg will be the sweet spot for me based on weight, but as I mentioned, I will access tolerance as I go.
 
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that dose is WAY to high. Its the same with people running superdrol or msten, they take 30mg msten or 20mg superdrol, when in reality msten can be run at 10mg a day for the same effect and superdrol can be ran even lower
30mg DMZ for a 165er is not excessive in any way. For all but hyper-responders or those with very little development relative to their natural potential, it’s the right dose.
 
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my hands down favorite is DMZ paired with trest. you can get alpha 7 at PRE and i think they have a sale running~ u will want the TD.
I want to avoid anything 19-NOR. I got horrible acne (back and face) from max LMG several years back.
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
 
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Dermacrine, cardaine (plus the dmz) and call it a cycle!
 
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Bump for info in the best way to take Dmz
 
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i take it with food but its methylated so you could take with out .. i also split the dose up but you probably dont need to do that either..
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Bump for info in the best way to take Dmz
About an hour pre workout. I haven't taken DMZ yet, but have heard that it's great take pre workout, for the workout.
 
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i take it with food but its methylated so you could take with out .. i also split the dose up but you probably dont need to do that either..
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Is it ok to take it with liver support supps? Like NAC
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
If you’re doing a 4-week cycle and have the Androtest on hand that’ll be perfect. A little estrogen and test to keep you feeling a bit better and not getting as dry joints or lethargic, plus a few more lbs.
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
If you’re doing a 4-week cycle and have the Androtest on hand that’ll be perfect. A little estrogen and test to keep you feeling a bit better and not getting as dry joints or lethargic, plus a few more lbs.
 
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What's the general consensus on taking a non-stim PWO while on DMZ?
 
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What's the general consensus on taking a non-stim PWO while on DMZ?
I dont see a problem with taking a stim or non swim, as long as u monitor BP....
 
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That's what I figured, but other than my daily 2 cups of coffee, I want to avoid any more stims. Thinking of getting some Superswole, Vasoblitz, or Vasomax. Currently on DMZ day 3 (30mg), nothing really to note so far.
 
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I recommend Epiandro over 4- Andro.I have rune as high as 75 mgs of DMZ with no sides.I ran it with dbol a few months ago.
I have some OL Sup3r Epi on hand, had planned on going 1-2 weeks DMZ alone since its the first time I've used it, then adding to the stack.
 
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I recommend Epiandro over 4- Andro.I have rune as high as 75 mgs of DMZ with no sides.I ran it with dbol a few months ago.
NO sides at 75mg DMZ? Nothing remotely undesirable? No lethargy, diminished appetite, cramps, acne, shedding, blood pressure increases, etc?

You’re either exaggerating, an anomaly, or the product was bunk/rice flour.
 
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Definitely NOT bunk. Everything I have ever got from Aggressive has been GTG.
I do question the amounts/content of some of their products, but I will say their Mk677 is for sure totally legit. 1 cap adds a ton of waterweight and recovery for me, and elevated fasting blood glucose, like clockwork.
 
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Day 5 DMZ (30mg).
No real feels yet, kind of surprised as I'm fairly sensitive to any supps and weigh 165. My gym sessions have been strong to start but I fade fast, that may be the lack of PWO stims all the sudden. Today is my off day then tomorrow back at legs so I'm really hoping that's when I hit that ON moment.
 
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Day 5 DMZ (30mg).
No real feels yet, kind of surprised as I'm fairly sensitive to any supps and weigh 165. My gym sessions have been strong to start but I fade fast, that may be the lack of PWO stims all the sudden. Today is my off day then tomorrow back at legs so I'm really hoping that's when I hit that ON moment.
Don’t be discouraged. It doesn’t seem to kick in for me until somewhere between the 1 to 2 week mark.
 
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Day 8 DMZ (30 mg).
Still not feeling anything worth noting. Last two sessions (legs and chest) have been good but nothing above my norm. My buddy is running same dose alongside me and having similar results. Thinking of jumping to 45 mg or should I wait another week?
 
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Based on your past cycle experience I would say go to 45mg now.
 
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Not really, totally underwhelming so far. Aren't you on DMZ? What results you having?
On day 3 now. 40mg. Today is rest day. Yesterday in the gym pumps were pretty good. Tomorrow is pull day, will better gauge tomorrow.
 
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Will be starting DMZ on Oct 1, at 50mg daily (will be staying at 50 throughout the 6 week run). Interested to see how you guys enjoy the stuff at 40-45, will keep an eye out in here. (y)

EDIT - - - Doing a 10-12 week test cycle with SD as a finisher. However, still keeping an eye on this thread for future references..
 
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Day 10 DMZ (45 mg)
Jumped to 45mg yesterday and I got a pump washing my hair this morning. Training legs today (which is a focus of this run) so I'm hoping to have a breakthrough workout. Doing a high volume program for legs.

Also, I've added about 20% caloric intake and my stomach is feeling it so I'm thinking of adding a digestive enzyme supplement mainly for my larger meals. Looking at Masszymes sold on amazon.
 
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Day 10 DMZ (45 mg)
Jumped to 45mg yesterday and I got a pump washing my hair this morning. Training legs today (which is a focus of this run) so I'm hoping to have a breakthrough workout. Doing a high volume program for legs.

Also, I've added about 20% caloric intake and my stomach is feeling it so I'm thinking of adding a digestive enzyme supplement mainly for my larger meals. Looking at Masszymes sold on amazon.
So I am on day 4 of DMZ, 40MG, was pull day today. The pumps have kicked in. Very very noticeable on just 4th day.
 
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So I am on day 4 of DMZ, 40MG, was pull day today. The pumps have kicked in. Very very noticeable on just 4th day.
Damn, well assuming 45mg does me well in the next few days, then I guess I can chalk it up to 30mg just not being an effective dose. Otherwise... it's something I don't want to claim yet.
 
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Damn, well assuming 45mg does me well in the next few days, then I guess I can chalk it up to 30mg just not being an effective dose. Otherwise... it's something I don't want to claim yet.
Using OL brand.
 

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