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I'll be starting a 4 week VL DMZ run in a couple weeks. I'm thinking of stacking with FS Androtest, but am open to suggestions whether that be oral or TD.
 
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Also considering Epiandro, specifically OL Sup3r Epi. Would love some experienced feedback on something synergistic with DMZ.
 
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What dose are you running the dmz at? Are you willing to pin?
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
I like modern 4-andro via TD or oral cyclosomal/liposomal delivery so much I am actually looking to loose my last 10x German AP.de Test E 300 vials.

I also just got 2x bottle of Fusion Androtest, should be quite good.. no real need for you to pin Test E, but PM me otherwise.
 
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What are some well reviewed 4-andro's? Never used a TD product so that's completely foreign to me, but open to options. Like I said really looking for something to compliment DMZ for a clean bulk.

Have you used Androtest before? I didn't find a lot of information on it, particularly recent reviews.
 
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What are some well reviewed 4-andro's? Never used a TD product so that's completely foreign to me, but open to options. Like I said really looking for something to compliment DMZ for a clean bulk.

Have you used Androtest before? I didn't find a lot of information on it, particularly recent reviews.
Well, Iconic just release Alpha Four (TD). Their new black series products have been getting great reviews and are top notch.
 
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Well, Iconic just release Alpha Four (TD). Their new black series products have been getting great reviews and are top notch.
Looks good but has a major price tag on it. Is 225mg in 5 pumps equivalent to a full oral dose?
 
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DMZ @ 15 just a few days to assess how my body responds, then 30/30/45/45 is the plan (~30 days total). I weight 165 so 30 may be plenty for the entirety, but since this is my first time with DMZ i'll judge as I go.

Lack a proper source, so I haven't tested those waters yet. This will be my 4th PH run (OG H-drol, Utradrol, then Ultradrol/Max LMG).
I’m on day 8 of VL dmz at 30mg a day. So far so good other than some lethargy but a power nap has helped. I’m might stay at 30 for 6 weeks or bump it up I’m 240lbs at 6’4.
 
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Any other suggestions for a DMZ compliment? Still thinking of Androtest or Iconic Alpha Four. Would anyone recommend Epiandro over a 4-andro?
 
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Whats the best way to take this? Stomach have to be empty?

How should the dose be separated?

Lastly, can it be taken along side liver care supps?
 
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Whats the best way to take this? Stomach have to be empty?

How should the dose be separated?

Lastly, can it be taken along side liver care supps?
@xR1pp3Rx @ZOO Could you guys provide some input? I'm about to run zombie too.
Also, any suggestions on a good compliment to DMZ are welcomed, thinking of Alpha Four or Androtest.
 
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my hands down favorite is DMZ paired with trest. you can get alpha 7 at PRE and i think they have a sale running~ u will want the TD.
 
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that dose is WAY to high. Its the same with people running superdrol or msten, they take 30mg msten or 20mg superdrol, when in reality msten can be run at 10mg a day for the same effect and superdrol can be ran even lower
The pills are 15mg, so that's the lowest dose you're going to take unless you half the capsule. I think 30mg will be the sweet spot for me based on weight, but as I mentioned, I will access tolerance as I go.
 
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that dose is WAY to high. Its the same with people running superdrol or msten, they take 30mg msten or 20mg superdrol, when in reality msten can be run at 10mg a day for the same effect and superdrol can be ran even lower
30mg DMZ for a 165er is not excessive in any way. For all but hyper-responders or those with very little development relative to their natural potential, it’s the right dose.
 
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my hands down favorite is DMZ paired with trest. you can get alpha 7 at PRE and i think they have a sale running~ u will want the TD.
I want to avoid anything 19-NOR. I got horrible acne (back and face) from max LMG several years back.
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
 
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I want to avoid anything 19-NOR. I got horrible acne (back and face) from max LMG several years back.
I think its an over reach to think every 19 nor will behave the same. They dont. but that said... test?
 
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Bump for info in the best way to take Dmz
 
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i take it with food but its methylated so you could take with out .. i also split the dose up but you probably dont need to do that either..
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i take it with food but its methylated so you could take with out .. i also split the dose up but you probably dont need to do that either..
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Is it ok to take it with liver support supps? Like NAC
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
If you’re doing a 4-week cycle and have the Androtest on hand that’ll be perfect. A little estrogen and test to keep you feeling a bit better and not getting as dry joints or lethargic, plus a few more lbs.
 
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@Hyde What you got for me? Assuming no pins or 19-NOR, doing a clean bulk with +25% surplus calories, what would you add to DMZ?
If you’re doing a 4-week cycle and have the Androtest on hand that’ll be perfect. A little estrogen and test to keep you feeling a bit better and not getting as dry joints or lethargic, plus a few more lbs.
 
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What's the general consensus on taking a non-stim PWO while on DMZ?
I dont see a problem with taking a stim or non swim, as long as u monitor BP....
 
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That's what I figured, but other than my daily 2 cups of coffee, I want to avoid any more stims. Thinking of getting some Superswole, Vasoblitz, or Vasomax. Currently on DMZ day 3 (30mg), nothing really to note so far.
 

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Any other suggestions for a DMZ compliment? Still thinking of Androtest or Iconic Alpha Four. Would anyone recommend Epiandro over a 4-andro?
I recommend Epiandro over 4- Andro.I have rune as high as 75 mgs of DMZ with no sides.I ran it with dbol a few months ago.
 
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I recommend Epiandro over 4- Andro.I have rune as high as 75 mgs of DMZ with no sides.I ran it with dbol a few months ago.
I have some OL Sup3r Epi on hand, had planned on going 1-2 weeks DMZ alone since its the first time I've used it, then adding to the stack.
 
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I recommend Epiandro over 4- Andro.I have rune as high as 75 mgs of DMZ with no sides.I ran it with dbol a few months ago.
NO sides at 75mg DMZ? Nothing remotely undesirable? No lethargy, diminished appetite, cramps, acne, shedding, blood pressure increases, etc?

You’re either exaggerating, an anomaly, or the product was bunk/rice flour.
 

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NO sides at 75mg DMZ? Nothing remotely undesirable? No lethargy, diminished appetite, cramps, acne, shedding, blood pressure increases, etc?

You’re either exaggerating, an anomaly, or the product was bunk/rice flour.
Maybe a little diminshed appetite , but my appetite was already not that great before starting. And my blood pressure is almost always kinda high anyway , so nothing really noticable.
 

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Definitely NOT bunk. Everything I have ever got from Aggressive has been GTG.
 

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NO sides at 75mg DMZ? Nothing remotely undesirable? No lethargy, diminished appetite, cramps, acne, shedding, blood pressure increases, etc?

You’re either exaggerating, an anomaly, or the product was bunk/rice flour.
Thi side only get noticable
NO sides at 75mg DMZ? Nothing remotely undesirable? No lethargy, diminished appetite, cramps, acne, shedding, blood pressure increases, etc?

You’re either exaggerating, an anomaly, or the product was bunk/rice flour.
Now if I add Msten to Dmz , THEN I get some sides.
 
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Definitely NOT bunk. Everything I have ever got from Aggressive has been GTG.
I do question the amounts/content of some of their products, but I will say their Mk677 is for sure totally legit. 1 cap adds a ton of waterweight and recovery for me, and elevated fasting blood glucose, like clockwork.
 

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I do question the amounts/content of some of their products, but I will say their Mk677 is for sure totally legit. 1 cap adds a ton of waterweight and recovery for me, and elevated fasting blood glucose, like clockwork.
I guess I just don't notice the sides that much . But I will say that within about 4 days stopping the DMZ and dbol and taking a 2 week break from orals , my body was feeling more vibrant. And 1 time with Aggressive , their DMZ with Msten was about 10 to 12 pills shy of 60. I wrote the guy I ordered from and he sent me a free bottle.
 
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Day 5 DMZ (30mg).
No real feels yet, kind of surprised as I'm fairly sensitive to any supps and weigh 165. My gym sessions have been strong to start but I fade fast, that may be the lack of PWO stims all the sudden. Today is my off day then tomorrow back at legs so I'm really hoping that's when I hit that ON moment.
 

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Day 5 DMZ (30mg).
No real feels yet, kind of surprised as I'm fairly sensitive to any supps and weigh 165. My gym sessions have been strong to start but I fade fast, that may be the lack of PWO stims all the sudden. Today is my off day then tomorrow back at legs so I'm really hoping that's when I hit that ON moment.
Well 30 mgs really IS a weak dose. Most say it shines best at 45 mgs.
 
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Day 5 DMZ (30mg).
No real feels yet, kind of surprised as I'm fairly sensitive to any supps and weigh 165. My gym sessions have been strong to start but I fade fast, that may be the lack of PWO stims all the sudden. Today is my off day then tomorrow back at legs so I'm really hoping that's when I hit that ON moment.
Don’t be discouraged. It doesn’t seem to kick in for me until somewhere between the 1 to 2 week mark.
 
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Day 8 DMZ (30 mg).
Still not feeling anything worth noting. Last two sessions (legs and chest) have been good but nothing above my norm. My buddy is running same dose alongside me and having similar results. Thinking of jumping to 45 mg or should I wait another week?
 

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Day 8 DMZ (30 mg).
Still not feeling anything worth noting. Last two sessions (legs and chest) have been good but nothing above my norm. My buddy is running same dose alongside me and having similar results. Thinking of jumping to 45 mg or should I wait another week?
I felt the same thing around the same point and I was only taking 30 mgs. Don't wait , up the dose.
 

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