DMA's Never Satisfied Training Log

Plan on adding Ghar1ne next month and then rolling that into MassGH for a couple months.
Nice looking PCT laid out and food looks great!
 
Ok we will call today the start of PCT. First dose of Clomid tonight. Started the HMB yesterday and the GW this morning.

Weight, 213lbs.

Not sure how long it takes GW to kick in, but had a killer workout this morning. Lots of endurance.

I forgot to mention that starting Monday I will also be doing a 24 day cleanse. And though I will not be reducing calories, I'm hoping the cleanse will aid in nutrient absorption and a good cleanse of the GI system should aid in a little fat loss.

Power Pull

Kroc Rows:
75's x 12
125's x 10
150's x 10
150's x 8

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
135 x 10
155 x 8
155 x 8
155 x 8

DB Reverse Flys:
20's x 20
30's x 16 drop to 15's x 12
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 10
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 12
Super Set
Alternating DB Curls:
35's x 20
40's x 16
45's x 14
50's x 12

Lat Pull Downs: (as wide as possible)
170 x 9
190 x 8
190 x 8

Underhand Seated Cable Rows:
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10

Cable Hammer Curls w/ Rope:
80 x 12
120 x 10
130 x 8
140 x 7
150 x 7 drop to 80 to failure

10 minutes of stretching...calves, hams, lower back, lats, and rear delts focused

[video=youtube;Gu7whKtpqOA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu7whKtpqOA[/video]

Here, go ahead and try to put this band into a category...I can't

[video=youtube;jtJfSnzKdRg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJfSnzKdRg[/video]
 
rascal14 said:
Should diet change at all on GW due to increased insulin sensitivity?

I've never really been able to understand insulin lol
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It really depends on your goals, same as nutrition does with any particular goal. Things to keep in mind, unless deep in a cut I would eat at least moderate fats, this MAY help you from going hypo to often. If trying to gain mass, add more carbs, once you get them nice and high then you can creep up some of your fats too.

Also it really isn't insulin sensitivity that increases but IGF-1 or Insulin-like Growth Factor, it pulls nutrients into the muscle just like insulin, hence the "Insulin-like" The thing with IGF-1 is it is not as transient as insulin, when IGF-1 levels are high and have bound to the muscle that cell continues to pull in nutrients. This is regardless of your level of blood sugar. As to where insulin will not release if you have low blood sugar. Hence the need to space out carbs or being very efficient at burning ketones for energy too.

rascal14 said:
I thought about adding it to my PCT, I just need to read more on it.

I figured you would want to keep fats low like you would on a refeed day or around Slin dosages, sense your insulin sensitivity is increased. I'm most likely way off though lol maybe MrKleen73 can help me out.
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No different types of fats have different characteristics but the reality of it is this the fastest fat to get into your system is MCT's, it takes about 1 hr for that to start entering your blood. Depending on the size of the carb intake you have your insulin levels should not be sky rocketing 1 hour post ingestion. Even if they were MCT's can not be stored as fat they have to be converted to be stored in a fat cell.

Now something to consider is that the typical saturated fats take 3 hours to start entering the blood, so your insulin surge from the meal is already over by the time that the saturated fats hit the system. This is all simply nit-picky info because as much as it shows that the fats you eat with a single carb meal are not that important. However for someone eating say every 2-3 hours this opens up the fact that fats from the previous meal are just now entering the system and are capable of being stored. If you get too nit-picky you can damn near paralyze yourself with indecision.

My opinion the best way to eat for insulin management is to have a high protein and fat breakfast, no or limited carbs. Eat the bulk of your carbs surrounding your workout, especially if lifting in the afternoon or evening. If I am going to have a higher fat & carb meal for the day I try to do it in the evening so that the fats from dinner show up in my blood after the massive insulin spike.

Dma378 said:
Ok we will call today the start of PCT. First dose of Clomid tonight. Started the HMB yesterday and the GW this morning.

Weight, 213lbs.

Not sure how long it takes GW to kick in, but had a killer workout this morning. Lots of endurance.

I forgot to mention that starting Monday I will also be doing a 24 day cleanse. And though I will not be reducing calories, I'm hoping the cleanse will aid in nutrient absorption and a good cleanse of the GI system should aid in a little fat loss.

Power Pull

Kroc Rows:
75's x 12
125's x 10
150's x 10
150's x 8

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
135 x 10
155 x 8
155 x 8
155 x 8

DB Reverse Flys:
20's x 20
30's x 16 drop to 15's x 12
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 10
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 12
Super Set
Alternating DB Curls:
35's x 20
40's x 16
45's x 14
50's x 12

Lat Pull Downs: (as wide as possible)
170 x 9
190 x 8
190 x 8

Underhand Seated Cable Rows:
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10

Cable Hammer Curls w/ Rope:
80 x 12
120 x 10
130 x 8
140 x 7
150 x 7 drop to 80 to failure

10 minutes of stretching...calves, hams, lower back, lats, and rear delts focused

[video=youtube;Gu7whKtpqOA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu7whKtpqOA[/video]

Here, go ahead and try to put this band into a category...I can't

[video=youtube;jtJfSnzKdRg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJfSnzKdRg[/video]
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Nice work, you look much bigger in the videos than you do in your pictures!!!!
 
rascal14 said:
Should diet change at all on GW due to increased insulin sensitivity?

I've never really been able to understand insulin lol
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Check out the cardarine thread. There's been a ton of convo about this there. For me personally, it's been causing problems with low bs during my fasts.
 
Dma378 said:
Ok we will call today the start of PCT. First dose of Clomid tonight. Started the HMB yesterday and the GW this morning.

Weight, 213lbs.

Not sure how long it takes GW to kick in, but had a killer workout this morning. Lots of endurance.

I forgot to mention that starting Monday I will also be doing a 24 day cleanse. And though I will not be reducing calories, I'm hoping the cleanse will aid in nutrient absorption and a good cleanse of the GI system should aid in a little fat loss.

Power Pull

Kroc Rows:
75's x 12
125's x 10
150's x 10
150's x 8

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
135 x 10
155 x 8
155 x 8
155 x 8

DB Reverse Flys:
20's x 20
30's x 16 drop to 15's x 12
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 10
35's x 14 drop to 15's x 12
Super Set
Alternating DB Curls:
35's x 20
40's x 16
45's x 14
50's x 12

Lat Pull Downs: (as wide as possible)
170 x 9
190 x 8
190 x 8

Underhand Seated Cable Rows:
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10
130 x 10

Cable Hammer Curls w/ Rope:
80 x 12
120 x 10
130 x 8
140 x 7
150 x 7 drop to 80 to failure

10 minutes of stretching...calves, hams, lower back, lats, and rear delts focused

[video=youtube;Gu7whKtpqOA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu7whKtpqOA[/video]

Here, go ahead and try to put this band into a category...I can't

[video=youtube;jtJfSnzKdRg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJfSnzKdRg[/video]
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Awesome lift man! Nice workout too!
 
booneman77 said:
Check out the cardarine thread. There's been a ton of convo about this there. For me personally, it's been causing problems with low bs during my fasts.
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If I remember correctly your fasts are over a 12 hour period of the day??? Are you still maintaining that routine? Remind me of your fasting time, and how the GW dosage time relates.
 
booneman77 said:
Check out the cardarine thread. There's been a ton of convo about this there. For me personally, it's been causing problems with low bs during my fasts.
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Are you eating some fruits as part of your carbs? The glycogen stored in the liver is predominantly supplied by fruits / fructose. You want to have some fruits in your diet if fasting on this stuff so that your liver has plenty glycogen to dump when your blood sugar gets really low. Then your extreme lethargy should be shortened by the liver releasing that into the blood stream when it gets the signal your blood sugar is low. If you don't have much fructose in the diet at all the liver doesn't have ample supplies of glycogen to release when blood sugar is low. That is when the lethargy ends up lasting a lot longer. I always try to get fats in with my carbs when on anything that can lower my blood sugar to at least slow down the initial insulin reaction to the carbs. Lower insulin at least improves the chances of not going hypo.
 
As for when gw kicks in from the caradrine thread it seems user defendant , it kicked in within first two days , for others it took about a week.
 
Joedoubledose said:
As for when gw kicks in from the caradrine thread it seems user defendant , it kicked in within first two days , for others it took about a week.
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Probably also has to do with how in tune a person is with their body. A very self aware person who is more dogmatic about their regiment will notice way before a hap -hazard instinctive trainer who does not eat on a set schedule would.
 
Looking awesome as always!
 
Dma378 said:
If I remember correctly your fasts are over a 12 hour period of the day??? Are you still maintaining that routine? Remind me of your fasting time, and how the GW dosage time relates.
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I usually fast from around 10pm until between 3 and 6 the following day. Workouts are at 6am. Have kept this since well before starting the gw. Dosing gw daily with my first meal between 3 and 6.

MrKleen73 said:
Are you eating some fruits as part of your carbs? The glycogen stored in the liver is predominantly supplied by fruits / fructose. You want to have some fruits in your diet if fasting on this stuff so that your liver has plenty glycogen to dump when your blood sugar gets really low. Then your extreme lethargy should be shortened by the liver releasing that into the blood stream when it gets the signal your blood sugar is low. If you don't have much fructose in the diet at all the liver doesn't have ample supplies of glycogen to release when blood sugar is low. That is when the lethargy ends up lasting a lot longer. I always try to get fats in with my carbs when on anything that can lower my blood sugar to at least slow down the initial insulin reaction to the carbs. Lower insulin at least improves the chances of not going hypo.
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I eat almost zero fruit. The diet that I follow is basically a psmf for 5 of the 7 days of the week with 2 refeed days (weds/sat) of high carbs. By introducing fruit I would lose much of the keto time that I have.

The issue is that even after my refeed days I don't feel much if any better. This whole wee for instance I'm on vacation and have had plenty of carbs each day and still are feeling pretty run down each afternoon.
 
booneman77 said:
I usually fast from around 10pm until between 3 and 6 the following day. Workouts are at 6am. Have kept this since well before starting the gw. Dosing gw daily with my first meal between 3 and 6.



I eat almost zero fruit. The diet that I follow is basically a psmf for 5 of the 7 days of the week with 2 refeed days (weds/sat) of high carbs. By introducing fruit I would lose much of the keto time that I have.

The issue is that even after my refeed days I don't feel much if any better. This whole wee for instance I'm on vacation and have had plenty of carbs each day and still are feeling pretty run down each afternoon.
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Interesting. As far as keto it is not that hard to get back into it and you don't have any need to actually be in keto to still be losing a ton of fat. However the fact you said you had plenty of carbs this week and still feel that way. I am not sure what that could be. What about adding in some MCT or coconut oil to keep some ketones available in your system?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Interesting. As far as keto it is not that hard to get back into it and you don't have any need to actually be in keto to still be losing a ton of fat. However the fact you said you had plenty of carbs this week and still feel that way. I am not sure what that could be. What about adding in some MCT or coconut oil to keep some ketones available in your system?
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Actually it's funny you suggest because I've been crushing nuts and butters all week as well. Starting to think gw just doesn't fit me.
 
Running on about 4 hours of sleep made getting out of bed hard, but knowing I'm taking the weekend off made me get 'er done this morning. Well Yoga on Sunday, but that's it.

New PWO cocktail. At least until my Scivation Psycho gets here has been:

1.5 scoops L-Arginine Extreme, 1.5 scoops Hypermax, 7mg GW, 1.4g C-HMB, and only 2 caps of Hydro3 for Leg HT day.

Those 2 caps were all I needed for this session to make my legs wonderfully, painfully pumped and tight.

Leg Hypertrophy

Leg Press:
4 plates x 20
6 plates x 20
8 plates x 18
8 plates x 18
Tri-Set
Single Leg Curl:
25 x 12
35 x 10
35 x 10
35 x 10
Tri-Set
Smith Standing Calf Raises:
185 x 25
205 x 20
205 x 20
205 x 20

Smith Machine Split Squats:
135 x 16
155 x 12
155 x 12

Leg Extensions:
115 x 15
145 x 12 drop to 85 to failure
145 x 12 drop to 85 to failure
145 x 12 drop to 85 to failure
Super Set
Calf Presses:
115 x ?? drop to 70 to failure
115 x ?? drop to 70 to failure
115 x ?? drop to 70 to failure
115 x ?? drop to 70 to failure

Glute Ham Raises / Oblique Crunches x 3 sets

20 minutes moderate incline walk
 
booneman77 said:
Actually it's funny you suggest because I've been crushing nuts and butters all week as well. Starting to think gw just doesn't fit me.
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Yeah could be, are you already throwing lots of stims at it? If you decide to drop it for some reason let me know I might take it off your hands so it isn't a total loss. I am thinking of picking up a bottle to start soon.
 
Awesome leg work you should feel that tomorrow!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah could be, are you already throwing lots of stims at it? If you decide to drop it for some reason let me know I might take it off your hands so it isn't a total loss. I am thinking of picking up a bottle to start soon.
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I've only been using stims as needed and in small doses (100mg or less mostly) except pre workout. Basically coffee bumps for the most part and only two times a day.
 
booneman77 said:
I've only been using stims as needed and in small doses (100mg or less mostly) except pre workout. Basically coffee bumps for the most part and only two times a day.
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Ever tried Matcha? Best pre-workout, hands down. Looks- and tastes like frog poop but it's a hell of a ride.
 
CJNator said:
I have a packet of some, I'm going to need to check the color.
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One heaped teaspoon in your pre-workout drink will do the trick, if you don't like the taste, you can make an enema, but not on squatting day.

:haha:
 
CJNator said:
Lol how much does the quality matter for the energy?
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As I understand it, good matcha is from young tea leafs, hence brighter color and more L-theanine . Brownish matcha is probable just powdered old-ass tea leafs, with lesser theanine content. Personally, I bought medium priced matcha, not the most expensive that comes in a tin box-and not the cheapo crap either.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Yep, bright green, more expensive and better. Dark green = cheaper and less potent.
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Yeah that's not a pre in any way...not sure what you're actually taking but matcha tea is not a preworkout. It's a health drink.
 
booneman77 said:
I've tried the ai sports version and it's literally just green tea... Not sure what effects you're getting from it?
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Never tried "ai sports", just bought regular matcha (not the cheapest) at amazon.
My pre-workout shake is: BCAA, Whey, Citrulline, Arginine, Glutamine and 1 heaped teaspoon matcha- or 2 level teaspoons.
It's like caffeine, stimulating but without the jitter and longer lasting. Sometimes the lasting effect gives me insomnia later on.
I used ECA in the past but it gave me cold sweats and racing heart beat.


Let's see what CJNator thinks about it.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Never tried "ai sports", just bought regular matcha (not the cheapest) at amazon.
My pre-workout shake is: BCAA, Whey, Citrulline, Arginine, Glutamine and 1 heaped teaspoon matcha- or 2 level teaspoons.
It's like caffeine, stimulating but without the jitter and longer lasting. Sometimes the lasting effect gives me insomnia later on.
I used ECA in the past but it gave me cold sweats and racing heart beat.


Let's see what CJNator thinks about it.
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Should have done it solo to try it out lol I took 2 scoops of alphamine, one ai sports packet of matcha, my albuterol, and 3 caps of target A2. I'll check if I have another to do. I'm on TA2, alb, and caffeine/alpha so it is hard to tell lol.

Also do you know the dosage of matcha you are taking? That can be a variable.
 
CJNator said:
Should have done it solo to try it out lol I took 2 scoops of alphamine, one ai sports packet of matcha, my albuterol, and 3 caps of target A2. I'll check if I have another to do. I'm on TA2, alb, and caffeine/alpha so it is hard to tell lol.

Also do you know the dosage of matcha you are taking? That can be a variable.
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Hahaha, caffeine/alpha AND matcha? You must be running in circles by now, lol.
Try matcha only, 2 heaped teaspoons should knock your socks off.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Hahaha, caffeine/alpha AND matcha? You must be running in circles by now, lol.
Try matcha only, 2 heaped teaspoons should knock your socks off.
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I'm actually pretty ok I just can't stop pooping lol.

Just found a packet, I am helping a friend lift and will ask him if he wants to take it.
 
CJNator said:
I'm actually pretty ok I just can't stop pooping lol.

Just found a packet, I am helping a friend lift and will ask him if he wants to take it.
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Ahahahahahah this had me dying!!

I'm glad I'm not the only crackhead around here. You guys are straight tweekers too.
 
Dma378 said:
Ahahahahahah this had me dying!!

I'm glad I'm not the only crackhead around here. You guys are straight tweekers too.
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Without any stimulants:
 

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I have to deal with this all the time.. Lol "I thought you worked out for a reason" nothing is worse than having to hold things above your head for any length of time.
 
Maintaining calories, maintaining weight. Still sitting 213 this morning. Looking as good, if not slightly dryer and as vascular. But I do feel like a touch of intensity was missing in the gym this morning. It was still a good workout, did everything to the max. Just not as sweaty and not as pumped.

I'm getting better at the yoga. I realize that it's less about stretching and flexibility, and more about focus and balance. I also feel like it is starting to have a positive effect on my body composition. The yoga and stretching at the gym in general.

Push Hypertrophy

Seated Behind Neck Press:
65 x 12
95 x 12
105 x 10
105 x 10
95 x 10
85 x 10

Pec Deck w/ 3 second hold/squeeze on every rep:
85 x 10 x 6 sets

Incline Smith Machine Negatives:
135 x 12 x 5 sets
Super Set
DB Front Raises:
25's x 20 x 5 sets

Reverse Grip Pull Downs:
80 x 12 x 5 sets
Super Set
Hammer Grip Machine Shoulder Press:
70 to failure as fast as possible x 5 sets

Cable Side Laterals:
20 x 12 x 5 sets
Super Set
Cable Kickbacks:
20 x 10 x 5 sets

Ab Roller / Side Bends w/ 45lb. Plate x 4 Rotations
 
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