rascal14
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I do it hammer with no handle. I tried facing my palm up and down and tweaked something in my neck lol I think I need to work on flexibility.
DMA's Never Satisfied Training Log
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I do it hammer with no handle. I tried facing my palm up and down and tweaked something in my neck lol I think I need to work on flexibility.
CJNator
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Libidos down but not out, keep that soldier fighting to stay up!
Dma378
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Hastur
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Mine died on cycle and hasn't bounced back in PCT, not sure I can blame the Rad outright considering I stacked it. I also noticed an effect similar to what you experienced, a drying out seems to have occurred after stopping the Rad. I didn't even think I was bloated or holding any water, but I guess I was.
rascal14
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Are you using Nolva? I am 90% sure Nolva has a negative effect on my libido and I've seen a couple others say the same.
Hastur
Well-known member
Just Toremifene and Sup3r PCT. It's possible it was dead on cycle from no test base, and now the SERM is negatively impacting it. It's really an issue for me, but just something I mention anecdotally. I want people to be as honestly informed as possible.
AustBenny
Active member
Why don't people use clomid? I've only done one PCT but clomid had me pumping geysers in a week. I know Dan is rolling with clomid this time and can compare to Nolva so it'd be interesting to hear.
I will be running both - I see no reason not to. Clomid for its HPTA recovery and Nolva for its anti gyno + HPTA properties.
Misfit28
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I've been using Torem as well with Sup3r PCT.
rascal14
Well-known member
I use both Clomid and Nolva now as well.
AustBenny
Active member
Any dramas with that? I've seen a few places say you don't need both or recommend against both but I really can't see any reason not to unless it's a $$$ issue but then what price do you put on your dick and balls working?
Hastur
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I don't use Clomid because I cannot afford to suffer the emotional side effects with my job. That's really one of the primary reasons.
Nice! How is it treating you? I can't see any visible changes since starting both, but I didn't see any visible shrinkage while on cycle. And without blood work, I can't say for sure what's going on internally!
AustBenny
Active member
That was something I was wary of based on my reading but I have to say I didn't really notice anything at all, I was quite a happy and cheerful little camper really considering what a grumpy f*ck I usually am. Resting murder face. Did it hit you badly?
Hastur
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That is interesting it didn't affect you negatively at all. I have no personally used it, I avoided it due to its reputation for emotional side effects. For some guys it sounds really bad. I went with Toremifene because it looks superior as far as HPTA restart time and lower side effect profile.
rascal14
Well-known member
No not really. It definitely worked better than Nolva alone. I think Clomid gave me pretty bad headaches the first couple of weeks, but that's really about it as far as side effects.
booneman77
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I've used both for my last couple as well... I've always felt I responded faster to nolva, but clomid has better longer term impact. Clomid alone was ok, but I did get a bit "lovey". No crying or anyhting like I hear some people talk about (frankly, i think this is ridiculous and people are just being idiots - same thoughts i have on supposed "roid rage" - be mindful and control yourself) but I just noticed that most emotions just felt "stronger"... normally I'm pretty stoic so even a little emotion was different for me. Not really a bad thing though. The gf sure enjoyed it ha. Lots of flowers were bought during those days
Dma378
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Upped the GW to 14mg this morning. Hopefully it will kick harder at that dose. I need it right now. Energy throughout the day is fine, but the gym is lack-luster. Just not fuuking beast. But I'm hoping to assimilate soon. Mood is very melancholy. Perhaps a touch of Clomid emotions, but just meh.
Just quoted for "pumping geysers" LMFAO!!!
I definitely wanted to be able to say this about the emotions as well. But I feel it is happening a bit. Control and logical thinking dictate outcomes. But looking back at yesterday, I may have been a little overly sensitive on a couple things I was talking about with my wife. Boo-F-ing-hoo!!
Dma378
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Not going to bitch too much about things. It is what it is. Man the F up and get that gym regardless of how much it doesn't feel as good. Physically the workouts are fine. I'm killing sets and reps and weight as targeted. It's just something missing mentally and intensity wise. There's no doubt they are still effective. But this was expected coming off of a 6 month monster!!
Pull Hypertrophy
BW Pull Ups: 8, 8, 8, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 (wide grip and slow)
DB Rows:
55 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
Super Set
DB Hammer Curls:
25's x 12
25's x 12
25's x 12
25's x 12
20's x 15
20's x 15
Chest Supported T-Bar:
45 x 15 w/ 5 second negative and 3 second hold at top x 4 sets
Hercules Curls:
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
Super Set
Cable Reverse Flies:
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
Jump Rope / Speed Bag / DB Shrugs x 3 Rotations
Fizzled out sooner than I wanted.
Pull Hypertrophy
BW Pull Ups: 8, 8, 8, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 (wide grip and slow)
DB Rows:
55 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 12
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
Super Set
DB Hammer Curls:
25's x 12
25's x 12
25's x 12
25's x 12
20's x 15
20's x 15
Chest Supported T-Bar:
45 x 15 w/ 5 second negative and 3 second hold at top x 4 sets
Hercules Curls:
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
40 x 10
Super Set
Cable Reverse Flies:
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
20 x 12
Jump Rope / Speed Bag / DB Shrugs x 3 Rotations
Fizzled out sooner than I wanted.
CJNator
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Any staples? Why not get a epicatchen product like Ep1c Unleased, will definitely give you a good ass workout; it gets better the longer you use it.
Dma378
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Alright, today was a feel-good workout. Felt better under Back Squats and Deadlifts than I have in a while. More control with pretty much zero pain or discomfort. So it was a Power Legs session, but we'll call it Moderate easing back into these 2 moves.
Woke at 210 lbs. Haven't seen that in a minute. Happy with the mirror though.
Power Legs
Squats:
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 10
275 x 7
295 x 6
295 x 5
Conventional Deadlifts:
135 x 8
225 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6
Single Leg Ham Curls: (plate loaded)
35 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 8
55 x 8
Super Set
Calf Raises: (plate loaded)
90 x 20
135 x 15
160 x 12
160 x 12
16 minutes moderate incline walk
Woke at 210 lbs. Haven't seen that in a minute. Happy with the mirror though.
Power Legs
Squats:
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 10
275 x 7
295 x 6
295 x 5
Conventional Deadlifts:
135 x 8
225 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6
Single Leg Ham Curls: (plate loaded)
35 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 8
55 x 8
Super Set
Calf Raises: (plate loaded)
90 x 20
135 x 15
160 x 12
160 x 12
16 minutes moderate incline walk
MrKleen73
Legend
Yes working with arms overhead is the equivalent of doing BFR workout on your shoulders and triceps. The blood flow gets restricted by the shoulders and of course gravity. This is why even light things start feeling ridiculously heavy and you have to shake out your arms to get the blood back into them regularly.
I like the palms up grip the best for these. Far more challenging and the idea with kick backs is to put the muscle in the least efficient position possible to make the muscle work harder. Palm up is the grip that really exploits that. Also never be the guy who swings his kick backs. Stop them perfectly perpendicular to the ground then go back up. No swinging for momentum on this move. Not a power move at all.
They both have anti gyno properties. However they are supposed to have slightly different MOA which is why they are thought to be synergistic. However Clomid emotions are typically the reason some people avoid it. I get very aggitated and aggressive on it and can also get to where I get frustrated and want to cry if I go to high on it.
You definitely do not need both, but there is bro science out there stating they are synergistic. Not sure if it is but placebo works too and not gonna take it away from anyone by saying otherwise.
Maybe it just softened up your normal hard demeanor, or didn't effect you at all.
The reason the clomid situation is hit or miss is that apparently some peoples bodies break it down differently and increase other hormones. I forgot the science of it but it is basically the same as some of us being naturally gyno sensitive and some not due to physiological differences.
Dma378
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It's been fun!!!
BigRed1974
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Awesome progress for sure!
yates84
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AustBenny
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Nice steady progress man 20-odd pounds must make a significant difference esp considering you prob also leaned out in that time. I remember that photo of you at that concert and you looked half the size lol.
As your logs also double as the metal thread lol anybody listened to the new Maiden album? I checked it out more out of nostalgia but it's really good if they're your thing. Guys have still got it. I can see myself blasting this in my car this summer lol.
As your logs also double as the metal thread lol anybody listened to the new Maiden album? I checked it out more out of nostalgia but it's really good if they're your thing. Guys have still got it. I can see myself blasting this in my car this summer lol.
Dma378
Legend
Damn it man, strength is down. I feel strong. But the numbers are just not holding up. I hate falling into the excuse or reliance on the anabolics to be strong. It is what it is. I don't want to train strictly for strength in order to maintain it. I love my Hypertrophy sessions too much.
But on a positive note...feeling better. Libido is creeping back up. How do I know? Put a couple cute chicks in workout shorts in the gym, and that's how I know. Just sayin'.
I am really drying out too. Looking good. Seeing that base that's been built. Vascularity is actually increased. Doing this 24-day Cleanse also has me "emptying" things out!!!
Push Power
DB Shoulder Press:
35's x 15
60's x 12
75's x 10
85's x 6 (this is where I have declined, these were 95's)
70's x 6
60's x 8
Incline DB Flys:
30's x 12
40's x 10
40's x 10
40's x 8
40's x 8
Flat DB Press: (straight up and down, did not bring together. constant tension)
70's x 10
80's x 8
80's x 8
80's x 8
80's x 8
Definitely can not do as much weight doing them this way.
Tricep Rope Pull Down:
110 x 12
130 x 10
130 x 8
130 x 8
130 x 8
DB Side Laterals:
30's x 12
40's x 8
40's x 8 drop to 20's x 10
40's x 7 drop to 20's x 10
20 x 15
Super Set
Plate Drivers:
25lb. plate
25lb. plate
25lb. plate drop to 10lb.
10lb. plate
10lb. plate
10 minutes stretching focused on pecs and delts. I use the heavy bag as my base to stretch with. It's cool because you can manipulate it to intensify the stretches.
Some interesting, funny, groovy Death Metal from this morning.
[video=youtube;9KBFWkhdSUo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KBFWkhdSUo[/video]
But on a positive note...feeling better. Libido is creeping back up. How do I know? Put a couple cute chicks in workout shorts in the gym, and that's how I know. Just sayin'.
I am really drying out too. Looking good. Seeing that base that's been built. Vascularity is actually increased. Doing this 24-day Cleanse also has me "emptying" things out!!!
Push Power
DB Shoulder Press:
35's x 15
60's x 12
75's x 10
85's x 6 (this is where I have declined, these were 95's)
70's x 6
60's x 8
Incline DB Flys:
30's x 12
40's x 10
40's x 10
40's x 8
40's x 8
Flat DB Press: (straight up and down, did not bring together. constant tension)
70's x 10
80's x 8
80's x 8
80's x 8
80's x 8
Definitely can not do as much weight doing them this way.
Tricep Rope Pull Down:
110 x 12
130 x 10
130 x 8
130 x 8
130 x 8
DB Side Laterals:
30's x 12
40's x 8
40's x 8 drop to 20's x 10
40's x 7 drop to 20's x 10
20 x 15
Super Set
Plate Drivers:
25lb. plate
25lb. plate
25lb. plate drop to 10lb.
10lb. plate
10lb. plate
10 minutes stretching focused on pecs and delts. I use the heavy bag as my base to stretch with. It's cool because you can manipulate it to intensify the stretches.
Some interesting, funny, groovy Death Metal from this morning.
[video=youtube;9KBFWkhdSUo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KBFWkhdSUo[/video]
Dma378
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Oh the silliness and weed references by no means reflect how good they are. I wrote them off for a long time because of it, and was totally taken back when I gave a listen.
Sometimes a name can ruin it for me before I ever listen. Dying Fetus and Prostitute Disfigurement are a couple that I thought, that's just blatantly stupid. They're trying too hard. And now...super fan
Dma378
Legend
Holy shiz-nit. Been out of the gym for over an hour and still pumped. I may have gone a little crazy with my PWO cocktail.
Woke up this morning at 205.6, and after the gym 204.5. A lot is GI weight flushing with this cleanse. Also water and fat. I'm very happy with my body composition right now. I'm not concerned with the scale although I watch it every couple days. I have a feeling I'm going to be a large 200 soon. Starting to see a little "graininess" in the obliques.
PWO cocktail consisted of:
1 scoop Arginine Extreme, 1 scoop Hypermax, 1 scoop Conqu3r, 1 scoop Mass Impact, 4 caps Hydro3, 2 caps Cardar1ne, 2 caps HMB
Straight Beasted a Pull session.
Pull Power
Pull Ups:
BW x 8
+45lbs. x 6
+45lbs. x 5
+45lbs. x 5
BW x 7
Underhand BO Rows:
135 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 8
205 x 8
205 x 8
BB Shrugs:
185 x 15
225 x 15
275 x 12
295 x 12
295 x 12
Super set
DB Concentration Curls:
40 x 8
40 x 8
40 x 7
30 x 8
30 x 8
Unsupported T-Bar Rows:
90 x 12
135 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 10
90 x 12
(with Speed Bag between sets)
Facepulls:
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
Super Set
Plate Loaded Preacher Machine:
90 x 10
115 x 7
115 x 7
115 x 6
115 x 6
Jump Rope / Ab Wheel x 3 Rotations
Woke up this morning at 205.6, and after the gym 204.5. A lot is GI weight flushing with this cleanse. Also water and fat. I'm very happy with my body composition right now. I'm not concerned with the scale although I watch it every couple days. I have a feeling I'm going to be a large 200 soon. Starting to see a little "graininess" in the obliques.
PWO cocktail consisted of:
1 scoop Arginine Extreme, 1 scoop Hypermax, 1 scoop Conqu3r, 1 scoop Mass Impact, 4 caps Hydro3, 2 caps Cardar1ne, 2 caps HMB
Straight Beasted a Pull session.
Pull Power
Pull Ups:
BW x 8
+45lbs. x 6
+45lbs. x 5
+45lbs. x 5
BW x 7
Underhand BO Rows:
135 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 8
205 x 8
205 x 8
BB Shrugs:
185 x 15
225 x 15
275 x 12
295 x 12
295 x 12
Super set
DB Concentration Curls:
40 x 8
40 x 8
40 x 7
30 x 8
30 x 8
Unsupported T-Bar Rows:
90 x 12
135 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 10
90 x 12
(with Speed Bag between sets)
Facepulls:
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
80 x 10
Super Set
Plate Loaded Preacher Machine:
90 x 10
115 x 7
115 x 7
115 x 6
115 x 6
Jump Rope / Ab Wheel x 3 Rotations
Joedoubledose
Well-known member
Sounds like you were running on 100 octane lol
Dma378
Legend
Rocket fuel mang!!
Dma378
Legend
It's almost 1:00 and I haven't come down yet. Glad I got up there though. Usually can't make it out this late and not be ready for bed. I'm old.
kenpoengineer
Well-known member
Geez! 20 lbs muscle! Glad to see you back and slaying iron D! Strong lifting!
Dma378
Legend
Thanks KE. Glad you're still following.
Dma378
Legend
PM sent brother.
Dma378
Legend
So after a great football Sunday, I'm feeling a little sluggish and bloated. Nice little cookout with a few drinks and enjoyed myself. Vikings won, Cardinals won, and 1 out of 2 fantasy teams is killing it. A good Sunday by my definition!!!
A fair Leg sesh this morning.
Legs Hyper
ATG Smith Squats:
135 x 12
155 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 10
205 x 10
Split Squats:
135 x 16
185 x 12
205 x 10
205 x 10
Single Leg Extensions / Lying Leg Curls x 5 Super Sets
Single Calf Presses / Glute Ham Raises x 4 Super Sets
22 minutes moderate pace incline walk.
A fair Leg sesh this morning.
Legs Hyper
ATG Smith Squats:
135 x 12
155 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 10
205 x 10
Split Squats:
135 x 16
185 x 12
205 x 10
205 x 10
Single Leg Extensions / Lying Leg Curls x 5 Super Sets
Single Calf Presses / Glute Ham Raises x 4 Super Sets
22 minutes moderate pace incline walk.
Dma378
Legend
Dma378
Legend
Had a nice Push session this morning. A little elbow pain from Saturday night's Top Golf outing. Haven't swung a club that many times in a long while. One thing I can say though is that I am absolutely crushing the ball. Impressed myself. I'm no avid golfer or anything, grew up playing a little with my Dad and family. But it was nice to show off a little in front of a crowd. Funny though that those muscles and movements are so specific, that I'm still feeling them on Tuesday morning.
Push Hypertrophy
Dips:
BW x 15
+25lbs. x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10
BW x 12
Low Pulley Cable Flys: (weight on each side)
50 x 12 (had to lighten weight, this tension hurt the elbow)
40 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10
Incline DB Press:
65's x 12
65's x 10 drop to 40's to failure
65's x 10 drop to 40's NEGATIVES to failure
65's x 8 drop to 40's NEGATIVES to failure
Hammer Grip Shoulder Press Machine:
100 x 10 drop to 55 to failure
100 x 10 drop to 40 to failure x 3 sets
Reverse Grip Tricep Pulldowns:
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
Super Set
1 Arm Leaning Side Laterals:
20 x 10 each side x 3 sets
20 x 8 each side x 2 sets
10 minutes Foam Rolling and Stretching Back and Rear Delts focused
Push Hypertrophy
Dips:
BW x 15
+25lbs. x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10
BW x 12
Low Pulley Cable Flys: (weight on each side)
50 x 12 (had to lighten weight, this tension hurt the elbow)
40 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10
Incline DB Press:
65's x 12
65's x 10 drop to 40's to failure
65's x 10 drop to 40's NEGATIVES to failure
65's x 8 drop to 40's NEGATIVES to failure
Hammer Grip Shoulder Press Machine:
100 x 10 drop to 55 to failure
100 x 10 drop to 40 to failure x 3 sets
Reverse Grip Tricep Pulldowns:
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
90 x 11
Super Set
1 Arm Leaning Side Laterals:
20 x 10 each side x 3 sets
20 x 8 each side x 2 sets
10 minutes Foam Rolling and Stretching Back and Rear Delts focused
Matthew1237
Well-known member
In it it to win it!
Dma378
Legend
Welcome man!!!
MrKleen73
Legend
Some great work there. I really need to get to a driving range and get a couple lessons. I took a few with my Dad several years ago and after about 3 lessons I was doing decently. I even broke 100 on my 4rth time on the course. Now I am pretty sure everything I touched would get whiffed.