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Since this thread is ALL over the place at this point. Quick question as I try to get my lipids back on point. My Ralox is covering me in the gyno department but I’m needing to ditch the Letro and use a lipid-friendly AI. Can’t go completely without it but I can finally get off Letro I believe.
Is Aromasin the most lipid-friendly AI?
I’m not getting the best info out there and someone in another thread claimed it has almost no impact on lipids.
Yes, Aromasin is the best AI (lipids-wise) to the best of my knowledge.
 
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Maybe some natural ones fair better in lipids departement? If you don't need to lower your e2 that much, maybe that's also an option. I don't know much about natural Ai's though...
Unfortunately I aromatize heavily year round. Any amount of test while cruising low dose trestolone and I need one. Ralox is incredible at the very least keeping gyno in check. I may continue dialing back my test until I get to 100/week simply because my trainer needs me cruising until we dial in my diet and I’m certain after labs this week I’m going to need to get my lipids in order. NPP for 10 weeks usually does my cholesterol dirty.
 
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Yeah I’m a cop and part owner of a MMJ grow here in Denver. Yeah got me doctor! Here’s a news flash drugs make you feel good. Lol and and you think it’s some type of miracle.
Well looky here. Someone who uses AAS giving out lectures on drug use

The ridiculous thing about this post is that people with severe depression / anxiety require drugs to treat them. Newsflash? Gtfoh with that attitude.

And yes, in terms of antidepressants and anxiolytics, microdosing is a massive breakthrough. Especially when compared against current drugs and their side effects.

If you don’t believe in it, well who cares? You don’t even need it so you shouldn’t even be part of the conversation tbh.
 
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I do fine on Adex but I hear aromasin is the go to for lipid friendly AI. Never tried it myself though.
Adex trashes lipids, aromasin is definitely the way to go especially for long term use. I stopped using adex with my TRT about 10yrs ago. Aromasin is also stronger and requires less dosing.
 
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Adex trashes lipids, aromasin is definitely the way to go especially for long term use. I stopped using adex with qmy TRT about 10yrs ago. Aromasin is also stronger and requires less dosing.
Dude stop talking out your ass. I called you out on your bullshit and now your talking like the little b$tch you are. Oh and aAdex is much stronger then aromasin dip ****! Aromasin has a 24 hour half life and should be dosed everyday. Adex has a 36 hour half life. One is a suicidal inhibitor and one isn’t.
Now please stfu!!
 
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You guys know 2 people can have valid points, even be correct, when they don’t agree at all.

Psychedelics are no stranger to the therapeutic realm. Not just for ptsd and panic disorder, but for addiction. There ARE studies on this.
However, I wouldn’t go right to a 4 day DMT trip to cure my alcoholism or start trying to source mushrooms for daily use, just HOPING they aren’t just regular ass mushrooms dipped in PCP,,, BEFORE I’d exhausted traditional methods for my condition to no avail. There validity to both sides of this argument. Let’s try to see it from each other’s perspective prior to insults.

And thank you all for info on Aromasin, I’ve been on Letro much longer than I care to admit.
 
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Ehm... : D

Ok, glad we understand each other now.
I understood what you were saying. But it is not an option to do that currently with a therapist. And if it were, I’m more of a fan of sub-perceptual drug doses for long term therapy (ie: not getting high). Anyhow not trying to get into an argument over it. :)
 
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Dude stop talking out your ass. I called you out on your bullshit and now your talking like the little b$tch you are. Oh and aAdex is much stronger then aromasin dip ****! Aromasin has a 24 hour half life and should be dosed everyday. Adex has a 36 hour half life. One is a suicidal inhibitor and one isn’t.
Now please stfu!!
ItalOne, instead of trying to constantly argue with me, simply go to my profile and click “ignore user”. I know that was once a feature here, hopefully it still is cos this is getting old...
 
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And thank you all for info on Aromasin, I’ve been on Letro much longer than I care to admit.
When I used adex as part of my TRT, it was terrible on my lipids. It also didn’t have as much effect on my E2 levels according to my labs, and that’s what counts. Once I switched to exemestane (aromasin), I now only need a single 12.5mg dose once per week and my lipids and IGF-1 levels are much happier. I’m a huge fan of suicidal AI’s. Absolutely no rebound when using them as well.
 
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I’m going to talk to my trt doc about Aromasin over arimidex after my next cycle. That’s good Info to have.

On a side, (besides AAS) I have never done an illegal/recreational drug in my life. I’ve never even smoked weed or a cigarette. I’ve never had the need or the desire. That being said, I would love to try a guided professionally observed DMT experience once.
 
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ItalOne, instead of trying to constantly argue with me, simply go to my profile and click “ignore user”. I know that was once a feature here, hopefully it still is cos this is getting old...
Yup giving out wrong information like you know, then changing it up is getting old. I bet your using RC chem AI’s considering you don’t know which is stronger or weaker. Yeah Adex is not great for lipids. Crazy that you even need a AI for TRT anyway? I don’t touch any AI until I get to 350-400mg of test. Then again I’m not a hypochondriac either. On 300 mg of test my E2 is in the low 30’s with no AI. Please enlighten me, wtf does estrogen rebound have to do with TRT? 🙃 Estrogen rebound is pretty much bro science anyway. You cray cray..
 
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Using drugs on your own is furthering your addictive behaviour. What that means? It means you are not using your own psycho mechanisms to sort your self up, but rather relying on some drugs that are supposedly helping. Then comes more anxiety, then your self image worsens, more anxiety, more drugs, etc.

Doing therapy, growing as a person, clearing chit up is the Only way.

And I am not against drugs, don't get me wrong hehe, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be here. Some can't even function without them due to sever PTSD for instance. -> I am against self medicating and not doing actual therapy. <- I am a big believer in therapy.
 
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Rebound e2 is not a myth though. But it depends on the situation. Like if you use letro on a heavy aromatising cycle and you just stop, your e2 will jump up higher and quicker if you theoretically used aromasin. (usually isn't used on such cycles as it's not really strong enough).
 
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Using drugs on your own is furthering your addictive behaviour. What that means? It means you are not using your own psycho mechanisms to sort your self up, but rather relying on some drugs that are supposedly helping. Then comes more anxiety, then your self image worsens, more anxiety, more drugs, etc.

Doing therapy, growing as a person, clearing chit up is the Only way.

And I am not against drugs, don't get me wrong hehe, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be here. Some can't even function without them due to sever PTSD for instance. -> I am against self medicating and not doing actual therapy
Nobody here is saying don’t do therapy in fact we’ve all talked about doing therapy. At this point we are all beating a dead horse with a stick here on this topic

Also, not that it’s anyone’s business but I haven’t done drugs to get high (outside of weed) in years and years. I never had a problem with it, all I said was I may have an addictive personality.. The only things I do now are enhancing ie: nootropics and aas. I’m 41 now. In my 20s I used to do coke (who didn’t) and I abuse caffeine (who doesn’t). The only thing I’ve ever let get out of hand was tianeptine but I don’t even use that anymore and it’s next to impossible to get now. I appreciate any concern but I’ve given nobody a reason to be concerned here so y’all can stop with assumptions and stop acting like concerned parents and please for the love of god, stop giving out unsolicited advice and get back on topic in this thread.
 
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Just wanted to chime in and say that Proviron is highly anti estrogenic for me. Took 50mg yesterday (on 125mg test e pw) and my joints hurt like crazy today.
 
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Just wanted to chime in and say that Proviron is highly anti estrogenic for me. Took 50mg yesterday (on 125mg test e pw) and my joints hurt like crazy today.
Hm, thats weird. No way did 50mg's of viron do that. Really.
 

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Hm, thats weird. No way did 50mg's of viron do that. Really.
I took 25mg proviron for 2 consecutive days prior to that AND 12.5mg aromasin on the day of test e injection. I am extremely sensitive to ai, i need to free myself from take the ai mindset, i have screwed myself over more than a few times now.

Whenever i lower my e2 too much, i get this anxiety, almost kinda panicky feeling that something is wrong. Pains all over my body, even mild chest pains sometimes.

Proviron is amazing for libido. Now that i have got prolactin in range with caber, i can feel the proviron in about few hours, and it lasts for roughly 24 hours.
but seriously, i like the alpha feeling i get from it.
 
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Which for me, on 125 test pw, is 0 ai. Especially with proviron in the mix.
Exactly.

Almost nobody needs an Ai on 125mg's test. Even on 250, you might not need it. But above 250, you will need it, to stay in optimal ranges.

Fyi, I also have a problem with progesteron on normal test + dht's cycle. No idea why...
 

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Exactly.

Almost nobody needs an Ai on 125mg's test. Even on 250, you might not need it. But above 250, you will need it, to stay in optimal ranges.

Fyi, I also have a problem with progesteron on normal test + dht's cycle. No idea why...
I hate prolactin sides. First of all, your d1ck doesnt work. At all.
secondly, you feel a bit down as prolactin i beoieve antagonizes dopamine. Damn prolactin was 411 on a scale of 80-320 with e2 at 17.
 

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So i am officially declaring that cabergoline solved 100% of my libido/ED issues while nothing else helped. I am currently on 125 mg test e pw and whether my e2 is <5 (crashed) or slightly high normal, my libido is good constantly and i get randoms, and i stopped getting those at 17 yo. And if i throw proviron into the mix, it is fun time.

Previously on 500 test and 300 masteron ED like no other, cialis, proviron...nothing. i was pissed.

Prolactin is a mfer.
 
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So i am officially declaring that cabergoline solved 100% of my libido/ED issues while nothing else helped. I am currently on 125 mg test e pw and whether my e2 is
Previously on 500 test and 300 masteron ED like no other, cialis, proviron...nothing. i was pissed.

Prolactin is a mfer.
And there’s some people that say prolactin antagonists don’t do that.
I say that’s insane. Prami and Caber are amazing at bringing back libido and they do even more for erection quality etc. I’ve always seen this, it will cure 19nor limp noodle in 1 hour flat.
 
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And there’s some people that say prolactin antagonists don’t do that.
I say that’s insane. Prami and Caber are amazing at bringing back libido and they do even more for erection quality etc. I’ve always seen this, it will cure 19nor limp noodle in 1 hour flat.
Phenibut as well! I use it pre-sex once in a while, especially for extended sessions. Prevents prolactin from surging and reduces or destroys the refractory period.
 

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Phenibut as well! I use it pre-sex once in a while, especially for extended sessions. Prevents prolactin from surging and reduces or destroys the refractory period.
Gotta try this one,

Proviron, caber, cialis, phenibut...geez...how on earth do people have sex naturally 😂
 

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