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Dermacrine sustain, anyone here used this?

Matt Skiba

Matt Skiba

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One of their reps recommended it to me in a previous thread, I'm just wondering whether this stuff actually works or not and if anyone here has first hand experience with it.

This is the first topical product that claims to increase testosterone levels and reduce estrogen that I've come across.

So can you help me out?
 
Yes i used the whole line and was very impressed, the thermoderm was my favorite, but all their products and customer service is top notch
 
Matt Skiba said:
One of their reps recommended it to me in a previous thread, I'm just wondering whether this stuff actually works or not and if anyone here has first hand experience with it.

This is the first topical product that claims to increase testosterone levels and reduce estrogen that I've come across.

So can you help me out?
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I used it as a stand alone supp, I definitely noticed an increase in stamina :bruce3: and sex drive :afro: . Haven't used it as PCT but i've read nothing but positive from guys who did



I enjoy the smilies on this site way too much:dance:
 
Matt Skiba said:
One of their reps recommended it to me in a previous thread, I'm just wondering whether this stuff actually works or not and if anyone here has first hand experience with it.

This is the first topical product that claims to increase testosterone levels and reduce estrogen that I've come across.

So can you help me out?
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There are other topical products that also do, its the particular formulation here that makes it interesting I think. Formestane transdermal for instance would reduce estrogen and thereby raise testosterone, but its a completely different mechanism. With resveratrol in dermacrine sustain, it becomes a completely different equation, having SERM-like as well as AI properties, potentially also increasing fertility + sperm count :)
 
I'm like 3 days away from starting my Sustain PCT log. I know plymouth city ran this solo and posted before/after bloodwork in the antiaging forum. And the bloodwork was impressive on top of his feedback. Very innovative product imo.
 
Interesting.. Well it definitely seems worth a shot, I also wonder, is this stuff safe to use combined with paravol? And also is the application sticky or uncomfortable under clothing?

Thanks a lot for your replies!
 
Matt Skiba said:
Interesting.. Well it definitely seems worth a shot, I also wonder, is this stuff safe to use combined with paravol? And also is the application sticky or uncomfortable under clothing?

Thanks a lot for your replies!
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I see no reason why you couldnt use it with paravol. I am using dermacrine now and I can tell you it is not sticky and dries relatively quickly. Completely comfortable and never noticed any skin irritation.
 
Matt Skiba said:
Interesting.. Well it definitely seems worth a shot, I also wonder, is this stuff safe to use combined with paravol? And also is the application sticky or uncomfortable under clothing?

Thanks a lot for your replies!
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I like to give it about 10 mins or so to dry after putting it on, before i put my clothes on. During that period I sit at the computer naked, drink my coffee and read the news online while my wife gets super horny watching the scene.

After 10 mins or so it's pretty much dry and there is no stickiness or film on the skin once it dries
 
I've decided too to do Sustain as my only PCT mechanism after my cycle in november, with bloodwork pre-cycle and after pct.
 
How is this stuff priced? Fair?
How long does 1 bottle last if taking optimal doses?

Thanks.

Also, I read a log over at M&M where all it did was elevate DHEA levels considerably.
 
I am sad o be off, their was a tremendous difference in how I looked and felt, I especially enjoyed the muscle fullness even when dieting
 
EasyEJL said:
I've decided too to do Sustain as my only post cycle therapy mechanism after my cycle in november, with bloodwork pre-cycle and after post cycle therapy.
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No SERM at all huh? I sorta been debating the SERM in my upcoming PCT.
 
Travis said:
No SERM at all huh? I sorta been debating the SERM in my upcoming post cycle therapy.
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I'm going to have one on hand, but i'm doing pre and post cycle blood work after the dermacrine sustain and not going to use the nolva unless something seems horribly wrong, or if end levels are significantly lower than start.

I'm willing to bet that end levels will be even or higher than start. Actually i'm willing to bet my testicles on it :D And it should be a fairly suppressive cycle too, doing epistane + revolt (same as Max LMG or x-mass) and since epi doesn't do its AI/SERMlike bit at lower than 30mg, it looks like it will be 30/75. Since revolt is non methyl i'm not as worried about liver issues on doubling up, but will be taking cycle support. I'm only doing the combo because I'm hesitant about too lean of a cycle since I have some arthritis.
 
I have yet to use it but I consider the maker of this product and company president to be a GREAT guy. He has been around our community for years and is a legend for some of his other ventures before this. Over the years workign with him he has been both an innovator, a great scientist, an unstanding business man and has even crossed the consumer/producer barrier with his supreme products and service and is what I would call a friend.

I get zero benefit from the sales of this product and infact he doesnt even know me by this handle on this board, all I am trying to say is give these products a try. If Primordial has done the work to back them up then you can be sure they are the best products on the market. I am VERY happy he has come here to AM and in time you all will see that he makes the best products on the market.
 
PP,

I think you read this and wanted to know who this is.

Its cb38ac aka goonstopher - I go by different names on here and a couple boards for safety reasons.
 
^^^ Thank you for the kind words… you will have to shoot me a PM...

json75 said:
How is this stuff priced? Fair?
How long does 1 bottle last if taking optimal doses?

Thanks.

Also, I read a log over at M&M where all it did was elevate DHEA levels considerably.
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That M&M log was a test that was done with the original Dermacrine. For that particular user (who didn’t get a T increase) he still talked about noticing all the anabolic/androgenic effects from the product – increased strength, appetite, aggression, ect.

We didn’t realize it back then, but the DHEA has a quite a different metabolism in different users. Some guys get a sharp increase in T, other don’t. Either way though, you can be sure you are getting a boost in all the anabolic and androgenic hormones related to Testosterone. (Adione, Adiol, Atriol, ect)

To offer a better explanation of the anabolic/androgenic boost from DHEA, read this -
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Remember, Dermacrine Sustain doesn’t have any DHEA or Preg, and it has a much higher dose of 99% pure resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. Its considered the more “natural” version and is also excellent for PCT.

-Pp
 
justreading said:
I have yet to use it but I consider the maker of this product and company president to be a GREAT guy. He has been around our community for years and is a legend for some of his other ventures before this. Over the years workign with him he has been both an innovator, a great scientist, an unstanding business man and has even crossed the consumer/producer barrier with his supreme products and service and is what I would call a friend.

I get zero benefit from the sales of this product and infact he doesnt even know me by this handle on this board, all I am trying to say is give these products a try. If Primordial has done the work to back them up then you can be sure they are the best products on the market. I am VERY happy he has come here to AM and in time you all will see that he makes the best products on the market.
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:goodpost: I am going to have to agree with that 100%. In the short time I have followed/known PP he has been a huge help. The funny thing is that at first the products just caught my eye as interesting. Then as I started asking questions I realized who the guy behind PP is and before that I was a huge fan of his articles posted on the net. Definitely an up and coming supp company!
 
I used the Dermacrine for about a month, then switched to Sustain. Noticed subtle but positive effects. Leaned out a bit, very strong appetite, good strength and some boosted aggression (not bad aggression, just hit it hard in the gym). Only negative I experienced started a few days ago and worsened today, itchy extensive red bumps/ acne across my chest. But I'm out of Sustain after tomorrow so I'm sure it will go away after that.
 
Arbor said:
I used the Dermacrine for about a month, then switched to Sustain. Noticed subtle but positive effects. Leaned out a bit, very strong appetite, good strength and some boosted aggression (not bad aggression, just hit it hard in the gym). Only negative I experienced started a few days ago and worsened today, itchy extensive red bumps/ acne across my chest. But I'm out of Sustain after tomorrow so I'm sure it will go away after that.
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What is the batch # of your Sustain?? Are you putting your shirt on right after you apply??
 
Steveoph said:
The b is actually a 6 I believe :) You have 6.1

Did you happen to shave your neck then apply SA? I've had lower neck irritation caused by this.
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That will happen and it will also happen if you go tanning after you apply.
 
I have version 5.7, just bought it in January. I have noticed a bit of irritation on arms and chest where I apply. Can you tell me the difference between 5.7 and 6.1 version?
 
raw1973 said:
I have version 5.7, just bought it in January. I have noticed a bit of irritation on arms and chest where I apply. Can you tell me the difference between 5.7 and 6.1 version?
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There isn’t much difference between these versions.

Spreading the formula around as thin as possible (more surface area) and making sure the area is dry before clothing will help reduce irritation if you are prone to it.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
There isn’t much difference between these versions...
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That is reassuring, as I will start a run of the 5.7 tomorrow (with Toco-8 and Endo-Amp). I never really had any problems, though, with Sustain Alpha. I still remember the 2.0 versions in the now-classic metal cans!
 
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