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delsolrob's blow'n up for new years! (m-drol log)

Adriano said:
Sorry I did not realize you had only taken the SD for a few days.
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To answer your question (even though you didn't ask me) I found Mdrol (SD) to be less harsh than epi... but I ran epi up to 50mg.

If it doesn't hook you up with a case of gyno, SD is the bomb.
 
TimberLakers said:
Whey doesn't keep long enough for me... Sometimes I'll do half whey half casein...

When I was on H-Drol - my shake was like 900 calories at night... :lol: Cottage cheese, cytogainer, whole milk, pineapple, blueberries, casein...

Sooooo thick.
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Ecto mofo, we'z gotz beefs knucka.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Try warming up and then doing some stetching: Hams, rotate your hips, bring knees to chest while on your back. Get real lose and see what happens.
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That's good "everyday" advice there bro. I warm up and stretch very religiously these days. And it also boosts performance. I swear by it. :thumbsup:
 
GMG760 said:
AP worked much better than Pslin for me.
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That's good to hear. I'll be using some AP in a week or so for a recomp. I am seeing AP getting like a 50/50 approval rating. I'm hoping to respond well, like you did G-Money.
 
Yeah TG, I'm still on the fence with AP. Now I have you as a good reference to go by..hoooraaah!!
 
thundergod said:
That's good to hear. I'll be using some AP in a week or so for a recomp. I am seeing AP getting like a 50/50 approval rating. I'm hoping to respond well, like you did G-Money.
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Well you TG, like I, am not afraid of carbs. I would seriously go hypo if I ate some AP and didn't eat immediately. It was incredibly noticeable. The pumps were great, I lost some weight and gained some LBM. It did exactly what it said it was going to do, minus maybe the crazy extent to which it does thisthat USP advertises.
 
I'm running out the door to a meeting...but, my date last night helped me realize that I have a tender bump under my right nip!?!?!??!?!?!?

nip doesn't itch and is only a little puffy, but when there is pressure applied to my nip it's tender.

I realized this when we were watching a movie and she put her head on my chest.

thoughts guys?

OMG, it's only been a 4 days!!!!

FYI: took 20mg of Nolva last night
 
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I used to get the midnight hunger pains from just a whey shake before bed, but now I have 2-3 tbsp of PB and it does great!
 
delsolrob said:
I'm running out the door to a meeting...but, my date last night helped me realize that I have a tender bump under my right nip!?!?!??!?!?!?

nip doesn't itch and is only a little puffy, but when there is pressure applied to my nip it's tender.

I realized this when we were watching a movie and she put her head on my chest.

thoughts guys?

OMG, it's only been a 4 days!!!!

FYI: took 20mg of Nolva last night
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That's the same thing that happened to me at day 6...

My advice is to take Nolva for the next 3 days AND continue your cycle... If nothing improves - hop off and start taking ATD with another full week of Nolva.

Don't trip - I bailed a little early I think - but you did the right thing with the Nolva last night.
 
TimberLakers said:
That's the same thing that happened to me at day 6...

My advice is to take Nolva for the next 3 days AND continue your cycle... If nothing improves - hop off and start taking ATD with another full week of Nolva.

Don't trip - I bailed a little early I think - but you did the right thing with the Nolva last night.
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Thanks TL!

this is what I was thinking, I took another dose of nolva this morning and I'll run it a few more days and keep an eye on things...

Makes me feel better knowing someone else was on the same page with my thought process.

I'm gonna order some ATD and a transdermal carier for it...just in case.

think my next cycle is gonna be an epi run!
 
delsolrob said:
Thanks TL!

this is what I was thinking, I took another dose of nolva this morning and I'll run it a few more days and keep an eye on things...

Makes me feel better knowing someone else was on the same page with my thought process.

I'm gonna order some ATD and a transdermal carier for it...just in case.

think my next cycle is gonna be an epi run!
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Yeah, don't trip... My pain and bump was gone completely in 2 days... With Nolva AND ATD. I did stop M-Drol though.

May be advantageous to run a low dose AI as well.
 
with my "scare" or whatever it was, I took 3 nights of 10mg nolva. I don't have boobs. I did notice that my nipples got randomly sore a couple of times... but I put it aside as imagining things.
 
yeah, if there wasn't an infamed mass then I'd just associate it with a flux in hormones that can cause puffy/sensitive nips.
 
My run with Superdrol left me with delayed onset gyno. I was going for plastic surgery consultations for a while man. Mdrol ain't worth it to me for that. Hence, I'd rather be on DNP then Superdrol (or clones) anyday.
 
Force of Green said:
My run with Superdrol left me with delayed onset gyno. I was going for plastic surgery consultations for a while man. Mdrol ain't worth it to me for that. Hence, I'd rather be on DNP then Superdrol (or clones) anyday.
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Isn't DNP supposed to be pretty dangerous?
 
GMG760 said:
Isn't DNP supposed to be pretty dangerous?
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People are scared of it. It can be dangerous if misused. But, yeah... it's hard to find, hard to acquire, hard to know if it's measured right... but if everything is in check and you take it easy, it's still a lot to endure, but people are just scared of it.
 
This is where the healthy lifestyle gets a little grey.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
This is where the healthy lifestyle gets a little grey.
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What is the definition of a healthy lifestyle? By a holistic means, none of us on this board are living a healthy lifestyle. I thought it'd be a good idea to pick the New Year as a time to start a true 'healthy lifestyle' to the fullest that I can.
 
Isn't it a cleaning chemial? I mean, I know it promotes fat loss, but so do a lot of illegal chemicals... Safe is not a word that was used in any of the info I have read.
 
GMG760 said:
Isn't it a cleaning chemial? I mean, I know it promotes fat loss, but so do a lot of illegal chemicals... Safe is not a word that was used in any of the info I have read.
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It is a component of dynamite. It'll stain anything and never come out, pretty much. It was actually the first prescribed weight-loss drug in the US. It makes the day very uncomfortable and it has to be used JUST right. I'm not saying, "oooo only the FoG can do it right!"... but let's say ur a decent hobbyist bodybuilder and you forget to drink your water for a while. (My buddy says he drinks a gallon a day, when in actuality he can't count for **** and probably drinks 64 oz). If you're borderline 'parched' and you chug down some waxy maize or something with a lot of carbs, you'll probably cook some organ tissue.
 
Force of Green said:
It is a component of dynamite. It'll stain anything and never come out, pretty much. It was actually the first prescribed weight-loss drug in the US. It makes the day very uncomfortable and it has to be used JUST right. I'm not saying, "oooo only the FoG can do it right!"... but let's say ur a decent hobbyist bodybuilder and you forget to drink your water for a while. (My buddy says he drinks a gallon a day, when in actuality he can't count for **** and probably drinks 64 oz). If you're borderline 'parched' and you chug down some waxy maize or something with a lot of carbs, you'll probably cook some organ tissue.
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That sounds like something I need to stay the FUKK away from!:nono:
 
Force of Green said:
What is the definition of a healthy lifestyle? By a holistic means, none of us on this board are living a healthy lifestyle. I thought it'd be a good idea to pick the New Year as a time to start a true 'healthy lifestyle' to the fullest that I can.
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I have a healthy lifestyle.
Enough said.
 
There's only one organ I like to cook...smothered in :~P
 
thanks guys for checking in!

work was crazy yesterday and I had my company holiday party last night...couldn't really get online to provide an update.

nip has lost a bit of the puffiness and tenderness, there is still a small bump though.

I'll also get yesterdays workout log up sometime today.
 
delsolrob said:
thanks guys for checking in!

work was crazy yesterday and I had my company holiday party last night...couldn't really get online to provide an update.

nip has lost a bit of the puffiness and tenderness, there is still a small bump though.

I'll also get yesterdays workout log up sometime today.
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good to hear that bro,i will be looking out for your update rob!:thumbsup:
 
Friday's Summary
Day 5​
Supplements
9am
-600mg pslin
-10mg Nolva

3:45pm
-600mg pslin (preworkout)
-10mg m-drol

4:30pm
-6 hemo (preworkout)

​
CHEST DAY


DB Incline (30 degrees):
70x10, 90x10, 105x6, 120x5
*note: I really struggled with the first rep on 105...with a lift off on the first one I could have prob hit 8 reps. Also, although he's not admitting it, my spotter for the 120's must have been helping me a bit.

incline hammerstrength machine: (weight is on each side)
70x10, 80x9, 95x6 + 4x70

isolateral cable press:
110x10, 120x8, 100x12

was in a hurry to get out of the gym...
did 3 sets of superset: 180lbs shrugs, isolateral scaption (just used 10lbs with 3 sec pause), tri push downs (got up to 120lbs on tri PD PR)

​

Additional Notes:
nip is feeling a bit better today

also, my chest never gets sore anymore...it's a bit tight today:D​
 
delsolrob said:
Friday's Summary
Day 5​
Supplements
9am
-600mg pslin
-10mg Nolva

3:45pm
-600mg pslin (preworkout)
-10mg m-drol

4:30pm
-6 hemo (preworkout)

​
CHEST DAY


DB Incline (30 degrees):
70x10, 90x10, 105x6, 120x5
*note: I really struggled with the first rep on 105...with a lift off on the first one I could have prob hit 8 reps. Also, although he's not admitting it, my spotter for the 120's must have been helping me a bit.

incline hammerstrength machine: (weight is on each side)
70x10, 80x9, 95x6 + 4x70

isolateral cable press:
110x10, 120x8, 100x12

was in a hurry to get out of the gym...
did 3 sets of superset: 180lbs shrugs, isolateral scaption (just used 10lbs with 3 sec pause), tri push downs (got up to 120lbs on tri PD PR)

​

Additional Notes:
nip is feeling a bit better today

also, my chest never gets sore anymore...it's a bit tight today:D​
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alright,rob!:thumbsup:..looks good man!
 
also, forgot to mention...Legs have been pretty sore after Wed's workout!
 
suncloud said:
another PR! good job brotha.
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Thanks!

yeah, I'd include the 120's on incline a PR if I thought I was doing all the work.

Another note...I've been taking my cycle support by throwing it in the back of my mouth and chasing it with water (sometimes I just need to take it when I'm not planning on having a shake). I just got a new container of it and it tastes SO MUCH BETTER (I didn't gag nearly as much as normal)
 
delsolrob said:
Friday's Summary
Day 5​
Supplements
9am
-600mg pslin
-10mg Nolva

3:45pm
-600mg pslin (preworkout)
-10mg m-drol

4:30pm
-6 hemo (preworkout)

​
CHEST DAY


DB Incline (30 degrees):
70x10, 90x10, 105x6, 120x5
*note: I really struggled with the first rep on 105...with a lift off on the first one I could have prob hit 8 reps. Also, although he's not admitting it, my spotter for the 120's must have been helping me a bit.

incline hammerstrength machine: (weight is on each side)
70x10, 80x9, 95x6 + 4x70

isolateral cable press:
110x10, 120x8, 100x12

was in a hurry to get out of the gym...
did 3 sets of superset: 180lbs shrugs, isolateral scaption (just used 10lbs with 3 sec pause), tri push downs (got up to 120lbs on tri PD PR)

​

Additional Notes:
nip is feeling a bit better today

also, my chest never gets sore anymore...it's a bit tight today:D​
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Awesome chest day man. 120's on incline is getting to some big #s eh! And SD does the same for me, nullifies all soreness, makes my muscles ****ing indestructible! :bb3:
 
Nice job with the 120's Del! Sounds like things might be under control. Do you think you will stay at 10 for the entire cycle or bump to 20?
 
delsolrob said:
Friday's Summary
Day 5​
Supplements
9am
-600mg pslin
-10mg Nolva

3:45pm
-600mg pslin (preworkout)
-10mg m-drol

4:30pm
-6 hemo (preworkout)

​
CHEST DAY


DB Incline (30 degrees):
70x10, 90x10, 105x6, 120x5
*note: I really struggled with the first rep on 105...with a lift off on the first one I could have prob hit 8 reps. Also, although he's not admitting it, my spotter for the 120's must have been helping me a bit.

incline hammerstrength machine: (weight is on each side)
70x10, 80x9, 95x6 + 4x70

isolateral cable press:
110x10, 120x8, 100x12

was in a hurry to get out of the gym...
did 3 sets of superset: 180lbs shrugs, isolateral scaption (just used 10lbs with 3 sec pause), tri push downs (got up to 120lbs on tri PD PR)

​

Additional Notes:
nip is feeling a bit better today

also, my chest never gets sore anymore...it's a bit tight today:D​
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jesus bro! nice work out!!!!!!! thats who cali do!
 
delsolrob said:
Thanks!

yeah, I'd include the 120's on incline a PR if I thought I was doing all the work.

Another note...I've been taking my cycle support by throwing it in the back of my mouth and chasing it with water (sometimes I just need to take it when I'm not planning on having a shake). I just got a new container of it and it tastes SO MUCH BETTER (I didn't gag nearly as much as normal)
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Congrats on the PR bro. M-Drol will let you crank out some of those soon.

I hate it when spotters help more than they're asked to. I tell 'em I need a spot, not their help lifting each fuckin' rep. I don't want them to even touch the bar unless I'm yelling, "Get this shit off of me"!! :lol:

I think AI must have changed something about their Cycle Support and PCS formula. I think they listened to everyone complaining about the taste. That is a very solid product though. :thumbsup:
 
weekends update:

I haven't been very on point with my nutrition this weekend...had three holiday parties this weekend:D

lump is almost completely gone and all soreness has subsided!!!! I'm going to plan on running nolva for another 2 to 3 days. (I'll need to order some more tomorrow so that I'll have enough for a full PCT)

looking forward to tomorrows back workout!!!

I should get my dermacrine tomorrow too!
 
delsolrob said:
weekends update:

I haven't been very on point with my nutrition this weekend...had three holiday parties this weekend:D

lump is almost completely gone and all soreness has subsided!!!! I'm going to plan on running nolva for another 2 to 3 days. (I'll need to order some more tomorrow so that I'll have enough for a full PCT)

looking forward to tomorrows back workout!!!

I should get my dermacrine tomorrow too!
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dont worry bro! i have had a bad week this week with nutrition too! stress messes me up! you will be fine! im sure the m-drol lets u splerg a lil!
 
delsolrob said:
weekends update:

I haven't been very on point with my nutrition this weekend...had three holiday parties this weekend:D

lump is almost completely gone and all soreness has subsided!!!! I'm going to plan on running nolva for another 2 to 3 days. (I'll need to order some more tomorrow so that I'll have enough for a full PCT)

looking forward to tomorrows back workout!!!

I should get my dermacrine tomorrow too!
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right on!..rob!:thumbsup:
 
What about the Dermacrine aromatizing? Did GMG stay on his Dhea after his gyno scare? Just a thought..
 
Great job on the log, rob!

Sorry to hear about the nip issues, but it looks like it's improving from what you've stated.

I agree with the nolva and atd suggestions. Those interventions should mitigate that aspect and allow you to continue.

Becareful with the dermacrine addition as well with your given situation. DHEA will have some estrogen conversion, and that could potentiate further issues.
 
thanks T1 and AZ! I was hoping the addition of low dosed ATD would eliminate the worries from adding in the dermacrin...which also has resveratrol in it (although it's a low dose).
 
Yea I kept dosing DHEA, but I was dosing it orally... of which the conversion rate is nothing near topical administration.
 
delsolrob said:
thanks T1 and AZ! I was hoping the addition of low dosed ATD would eliminate the worries from adding in the dermacrin...which also has resveratrol in it (although it's a low dose).
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I think a low dose ATD should keep everything in line though.

Dermacrine is the best DHEA product on the market imo, and the conversions due to steroidogenic enzymes in the skin should be far superior in every regard in subsequent conversions of androstenediol, androstenedione, testosterone, and estrogen.
 
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