Defcon1

There are two versions. Heard the first version was really good and the new one is so so. Never got around to trying it though.
 
^2nd that. Also ive heard theres some difference in the aus version to the us version
 
Version with PEA is really good.New one without PEA but with Dendrobium and synephrine,won't give you the same kick and focus.
 
Haven't tried it personally but i've heard positive reviews on it.
 
First one was great IMO. I still have one tub left. New version (Defcon1 Second Strike) does not deliver at all. In fact, I recently ordered two tubs of what I thought was the OG from an online retailer, only to find they shipped me Second Strike instead. I immediately returned them. And yes, I've tried a full tub of Second Strike. Just not the same.
 
Haven't tried either.

I honestly rarely jump to new pre-workouts when I find a good formula. I've basically used only 2 pre's (other than samples for trial) in the past year and a half (the newest being CL's White Rapids).

Although I have picked up a new combo I'm going to try when I get back from vacation in September:

Pre-workout: ANS Ritual + Dilate
Intra-workout: ANS Amino-HP

Between all 3, it should yield some very solid ingredient totals.


Anymore, as long as I have a decent amount of caffeine, that's good enough on the stim front for me.
 
MidwestBeast said:
Haven't tried either.

I honestly rarely jump to new pre-workouts when I find a good formula. I've basically used only 2 pre's (other than samples for trial) in the past year and a half (the newest being CL's White Rapids).

Although I have picked up a new combo I'm going to try when I get back from vacation in September:

Pre-workout: ANS Ritual + Dilate
Intra-workout: ANS Amino-HP

Between all 3, it should yield some very solid ingredient totals.


Anymore, as long as I have a decent amount of caffeine, that's good enough on the stim front for me.
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Haha, that is how I was with the OG Defcon1. Been using it for over a year, which is why I'm pissed they changed the formula. It was great for energy, mood, and focus. Now I'm back to shopping around for my next staple pwo...a process that I HATE!
 
I ended up buying it yesterday, had a lot of energy felt good. Watermelon dosent taste too good but not to worries about taste with PWO but it is a bonus, pump wasn't there. Anyone recommend any pump stacks, I hear core nutrition is great?
 
zpalrangi13 said:
I ended up buying it yesterday, had a lot of energy felt good. Watermelon dosent taste too good but not to worries about taste with PWO but it is a bonus, pump wasn't there. Anyone recommend any pump stacks, I hear core nutrition is great?
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Go with pineapple next time. It's better than watermelon. Check out PES High Volume. That'll do the trick. And the paradise cooler flavor would probably mix well with pineapple (or watermelon) DC1
 
MidwestBeast said:
White Rapids at 2 scoops is also solid for pump
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I've heard good things about White Rapids, but if he's looking for something to stack with Defcon1, that would get him stimmed out! That's why I recommended HV. Or try stim-free Conqu3r. If he drops the Defcon1, 2 scoops WR would certainly do the trick
 
BRUstrong said:
I've heard good things about White Rapids, but if he's looking for something to stack with Defcon1, that would get him stimmed out! That's why I recommended HV. Or try stim-free Conqu3r. If he drops the Defcon1, 2 scoops WR would certainly do the trick
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I didn't see that he was looking to stack the 2; just thought he was looking for a pump product in general. But yeah, even though WR isn't stim heavy by any means, I wouldn't stack it with anything else.
 
MidwestBeast said:
I didn't see that he was looking to stack the 2; just thought he was looking for a pump product in general. But yeah, even though WR isn't stim heavy by any means, I wouldn't stack it with anything else.
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Based on reviews, OP might be better off ditching the Defcon1 and just going to White Rapids! But, I know from personal experience that some pwos work well for some but not for others. So, OP, if you're enjoying your run with Defcon1 Second Strike, keep it going and be glad you found a pwo that works well for you!
 
i found defcon1 by watching massivejoes on youtube. he always says thats the best out there. so i ordered some up. i can tell ya, i take it over and over and over and every single time it hits like the first time i ever took it. works perfect for me. the only thing it lacks for me is my body got used to the focus products in it and im kinda a space cadet lifting.. i need a supp for focus if anyone can tell me what i should try i would appreciate it.. i think its one of the best pre work outs on the market as far as i feel. but your mileage may very.
 
Thelux14 said:
i found defcon1 by watching massivejoes on youtube. he always says thats the best out there. so i ordered some up. i can tell ya, i take it over and over and over and every single time it hits like the first time i ever took it. works perfect for me. the only thing it lacks for me is my body got used to the focus products in it and im kinda a space cadet lifting.. i need a supp for focus if anyone can tell me what i should try i would appreciate it.. i think its one of the best pre work outs on the market as far as i feel. but your mileage may very.
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Original or Second Strike? I agree if you're talking about the OG. Second Strike, not so much
 
If any of the posters here are still active, were you ever able to find a replacement product for Defcon 1? 3 years later now.. I'm still searching for something that resembled the OG defcon 1. Loved it so much!!

I miss that amazing clean energy, razor sharp mental focus/drive, moodboost/feeling of well being, no tolerance if taken 4x a week, and best pineapple taste I've ever had. It literally hit every aspect perfectly. If only I could formulate the OG myself :(
 
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