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Oh! Who is this beautiful black woman?
 
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If he says he's natty you have to believe him, look at him, he's not even that big at all, he's ripped though
No... We don't have to believe him, ever hear the phrase "trust.. but verify". Since we can't verify, we have no need to trust.

Yet, I admit that physique is attainable for a few in a Natty way, but with the proliferation of supplements and drugs and the blurred lines we have discussed between them.. you must admit the rise of so many guys like him, means two things a)most are lying about being fully Natty b)more drugs and supplements are widely used for most all these guys you post.. than you seem to be willing to understand - unless you think human genetics rapidly improved in the past 30 years or so?

The answer is no.. human genetics did not rapidly evolve and yes many lie to attain fame/status/paycheck, until more recent times when people are more open about their substance use or abuse.

And not to give drugs and improved supplement science all the credit.. but strong advances in sports science / lifting methods have made athletes better too. Computer sensors on humans reveal a lot about what is really needed for growth, despite bro-lore.
 
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If he says he's natty you have to believe him, look at him, he's not even that big at all, he's ripped though
No we don’t. Ever hear of a guy named Lance Armstrong? People lie all the time. Do you even know who this guy is you posted? Tell you what, from now on post the names of these random guys with their pictures. I would be willing to bet you have no idea who most of them even are much less what they claim to be. Then after that post the source where they claim to be natural and don’t tell me they told you personally through YouTube. That’s not much to ask and should be very simple to do if you truly know anything about these people. May be a little difficult if your just picking random photos of guys you think are sexy as you have said before.
 
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No... We don't have to believe him, ever hear the phrase "trust.. but verify". Since we can't verify, we have no need to trust.

Yet, I admit that physique is attainable for a few in a Natty way, but with the proliferation of supplements and drugs and the blurred lines we have discussed between them.. you must admit the rise of so many guys like him, means two things a)most are lying about being fully Natty b)more drugs and supplements are widely used for most all these guys you post.. than you seem to be willing to understand - unless you think human genetics rapidly improved in the past 30 years or so?

The answer is no.. human genetics did not rapidly evolve and yes many lie to attain fame/status/paycheck, until more recent times when people are more open about their substance use or abuse.

And not to give drugs and improved supplement science all the credit.. but strong advances in sports science / lifting methods have made athletes better too. Computer sensors on humans reveal a lot about what is really needed for growth, despite bro-lore.
I agree “100”percent.
 
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No we don’t. Ever hear of a guy named Lance Armstrong? People lie all the time. Do you even know who this guy is you posted? Tell you what, from now on post the names of these random guys with their pictures. I would be willing to bet you have no idea who most of them even are much less what they claim to be. Then after that post the source where they claim to be natural and don’t tell me they told you personally through YouTube. That’s not much to ask and should be very simple to do if you truly know anything about these people. May be a little difficult if your just picking random photos of guys you think are sexy as you have said before.
Tried this already in the hope of researching a couple but ironhands has a new generic response along the lines of "I posted his name a while back, you have to read the whole thread". Which obviously means " I don't know"
 

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I think we all know he has no idea who any of these guys are. I am also willing to bet he ignores my request and responds with another random picture he grabs from the internet. At least the thread MAY have a bit of credibility if he posted the names and the sources he used to determine if they were natural.
 
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In fairness he has named a few in the past but when you look them up a lot of the time they are either on magazine covered with a quote saying "how to get 20inch arms natural" or something like that not actually talking about the model. Or its someone who has competed in a natural show but given that there are bodybuilders out there telling us how long before a show you need to come off gear in order to pass a drug test we know we can take those guys being natural with about 29 tonnes of salt.
 

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Exactly my point. He sees a random photo and a headline and it must be true. Those magazines are nothing more than supermarket tabloids. And if that’s the case, Elvis is alive and doing well too.
 

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Exactly my point. He sees a random photo and a headline and it must be true. Those magazines are nothing more than supermarket tabloids. And if that’s the case, Elvis is alive and doing well too.
 

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Well at least you attached a name. Now try listing a source of how you determined they’re natural. Don’t just say they said so. I would like to know where they said so. Link to an article, website, whatever.
 
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Quick Ironhands, Jerry ward posted a video on YouTube yesterday explaining how Mike Ohearn is natural!! Get over there and explain about natural test boosters to set that fucker straight!! We got your back on this!
 
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Wow, looks like we can say fucker and fucking... Freedom of speech for the win!
 
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I think we need more testing. Quick, someone cuss out Wobmarvel! For science!
God fucking damnit @Wobmarvel, why can't you fucking make #Ironshithead understand how shitty it is to try and distract real people - trying to get advanced information about diet and supplements and yes enhanced life - to his gay porn extravaganza of fake Natty lifters?

A delusionally magical place where he grants permission and fake Natty status from the dank hole of his mom's basement.

I mean Wob it really is.. all your fault for fucks' sake.
 
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God fucking damnit @Wobmarvel, why can't you fucking make #Ironshithead understand how shitty it is to try and distract real people - trying to get advanced information about diet and supplements and yes enhanced life - to his gay porn extravaganza of fake Natty lifters?

A delusionally magical place where he grants permission and fake Natty status from the dank hole of his mom's basement.

I mean Wob it really is.. all your fault for fucks' sake.
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I’ve been lurking for quite some time. Time I just subscribed to the comedic value in this thread.
Skip looks great at 255 sub 5%.
Test boosters and creatine can work wonders if you’re a hyperresponder.
 

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I’ve been lurking for quite some time. Time I just subscribed to the comedic value in this thread.
Skip looks great at 255 sub 5%.
Test boosters and creatine can work wonders if you’re a hyperresponder.
lol!
 

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I’ve been lurking for quite some time. Time I just subscribed to the comedic value in this thread.
Skip looks great at 255 sub 5%.
Test boosters and creatine can work wonders if you’re a hyperresponder.
Hey hey hey, Skip is 100% natural. He said so himself on the internet so we have to believe him. Besides, he competes in drug fee bodybuilding, who would lie about that?
 
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I’ve been lurking for quite some time. Time I just subscribed to the comedic value in this thread.
Skip looks great at 255 sub 5%.
Test boosters and creatine can work wonders if you’re a hyperresponder.
Woah woah woah test boosters don't mean your natty, we already established that.
 
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Woah woah woah test boosters don't mean your natty, we already established that.
Damn. So many rules for these “natural” guys.
What if you are off cycle? Wouldn’t you then be natural? Or if your TRT brings you to natural levels? Or you’re using aas derived from pig testicles? I mean those are natural? What if you ate animals endocrine systems and androgen receptor sandwiches all day long? Wouldn’t that give an unfair advantage similar to steroids? This is all so confusing? Sarms shouldn’t count, GH shouldn’t count. The grey area here is overwhelming. Maybe that’s where these obviously enhanced athletes dwell? In the grey area?
Nobody besides OP believes for one second any of them are natural in the sense that he believes right? That would just be ridiculous horse ****.
 

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Damn. So many rules for these “natural” guys.
What if you are off cycle? Wouldn’t you then be natural? Or if your TRT brings you to natural levels? Or you’re using aas derived from pig testicles? I mean those are natural? What if you ate animals endocrine systems and androgen receptor sandwiches all day long? Wouldn’t that give an unfair advantage similar to steroids? This is all so confusing? Sarms shouldn’t count, GH shouldn’t count. The grey area here is overwhelming. Maybe that’s where these obviously enhanced athletes dwell? In the grey area?
Nobody besides OP believes for one second any of them are natural in the sense that he believes right? That would just be ridiculous horse ****.
You need to go back and read all 189 pages of this thread. All these questions are answered by ironhands. Granted, he uses no logic whatsoever, but the answers are there.
 
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And here I thought he was.going to retire this and move on the "bodybuilder specific" tribute threads he started recently.. to which he's gotten much warmer response from usual members here. So why he continues this non sense, beyond me.
 

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And here I thought he was.going to retire this and move on the "bodybuilder specific" tribute threads he started recently.. to which he's gotten much warmer response from usual members here. So why he continues this non sense, beyond me.
Those are actually old threads of his he revived. What I don’t understand is why he pays tribute to enhanced bodybuilders yet preaches no cheating and drug free. Just more ironhands logic I suppose.
 
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Those are actually old threads of his he revived. What I don’t understand is why he pays tribute to enhanced bodybuilders yet preaches no cheating and drug free. Just more ironhands logic I suppose.
Cause he only. Cares about Guy's in Underwear
 

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