Dancing with 'tropins: BodyWizard's GH experiment

Thats some pretty good results with the hair growth. I honestly thought you might be exaggerating. But after looking at the picks there has definetly been some growth. Somethings working.
 
BW, f*ck him! Do NOT back off w/the little lady. This dude feels like the whole world needs to stop while he gets his sh*t together and decides what he wants to do w/his life? F*ck that! I noticed you introduced him as "A guy I know" and not as "my friend." That is what it boils down to. Of course it's her decision and it would be a huge mistake to pressure her but don't give this dipsh*t the upperhand or the benefit of the doubt. Let the territorial pissing begin! Whatever's meant to be will be but if this guy calls you again, let him know what's what.
 
Is he a balanced individual or some nut case!? We don't know these people and you do. I could tell from your words this is tearing you up. First of all, (for your sake), make damn sure this woman hasn't been stringing this guy along. My concern is YOU! I know you think she's great and I hope with all my heart she is... but if she's some habitual heartbreaker that's going to bring unnecessary drama into your life... you don't need this bro! This is YOUR TIME.... the rise of the Pheonix!
As painful as it might be, to get involved with an individual who is going to drain your energy which should be focused on
"Gutting it out and rebuilding", should be avoided. I truly don't want to overstep any bounds, but you have a heart, a big heart...a good heart. The kind that toxic people will latch on to and drain until their done and move on to the next victim. I'm not making accusations! On one hand I think Bionic is right. (If this guy is in some fantasy world or has not been taking "no" for an answer for years). On the other hand if this guy has been hearing things like he might have a chance, then she meets you and its "too bad so sad!" Are you next?
Again I don't know her, or the conversations you've had the past few weeks, so I don't want to plant a bad bug in your ear. A lot of people really care abut you here...please, please be careful! No knee jerk reactions! I would even go so
far as to say watch carefully what you say to her on the issue. I don't mean dishonesty. You are obviously an extremely intelligent man...observe, and try do so objectively.
I know this is the hardest arena of life to be objective, but its also an important one.
.......whew...... I need a beer !
If I've offended you I'm sorry, I'm sure everyone reading thinks I've over done it. I just want you to be happy bro!
Sorry for the rant everybody.:run:
CL
 
ryano said:
Thats some pretty good results with the hair growth. I honestly thought you might be exaggerating. But after looking at the picks there has definetly been some growth. Somethings working.
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got caught up in trying to make the pix show, so forgot to mention, the area that's getting the regrowth looks real sparse in some of these pics but when I started this dance, there was virtually NO HAIR VISIBLE in the bald zone. I could feel some, and lulled myself into thinking I wasn't as bald as I was...until I got a hand mirror & had a look... :run:

It really *IS* filling in very nicely.
 
more backstory on the GF situation:

turns out he & she have had an on-again/off-again thing for a dozen years, with him usually disappearing not long after working his way back in; she had a big blowup w/ him a couple years back about it, w/ him basically saying 'I'm too screwed up, you'll never have a life w/ me, find someone else'.

Apparently he was fine w/ things that way until my name came out. I've had occasion to counsel & advise the guy (on non-relationship matters) from time to time; been in a (distant / limited) big-brother relationship w/ him, you might say - but we have not been close. Some portion of his reaction is "anyone but HIM!!!" (meaning me, of course). Now he's thinking that he'll finally graduate from college, move out of his mom's house, get a real job & make an honest woman of her (or something like that).

Really, I've been in places where I felt like I'd screwed up something precious & wanted to make it right, so it's hard not to have compassion for the man. I spent a lot of yesterday rolling this around, and what I came to was that if he could have what he wants (us not having sex - and there didn't really seem to be an alternate option besides "up yours!"), then I could have what I wanted - which is to hang w/ her and let things develop "normally".

So no - I am NOT backing off - and he does NOT have 'until further notice' to make or lose his case. Last night she & were talking about it and she said 'does this mean we're just going to tease each other til we scream?', and my answer was 'you bet your sweet ass it does!'

Which is how I came wandering in around 11:30 this AM with only 4 hours sleep - but I'm a happy, happy guy....
 
Good for you BW. You're a good man and I hope everything works out in your favor. We ALL have your back.
 
"Anybody but him" means that you pose a true threat to him. Testament to what a great guy you are. All is fair in love and war. Take it!:duel:
 
Bionic said:
Of course it's her decision and it would be a huge mistake to pressure her but don't give this dipsh*t the upperhand or the benefit of the doubt. Let the territorial pissing begin! Whatever's meant to be will be but if this guy calls you again, let him know what's what.
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it must be a universal male imperative, or something, but yeah, I find there's a distinct whiff of territoriality / chest-thumping underneath my reactions to this. Like I 've got a spot and she not only fits right in it, but seems to feel right at home there - feels really good, in a low-rumbling, big-primate kinda way...and this guy puts a different note in my growl.

Still, we're all civilized & like that, eh? :toofunny:

I could give this guy the whole court & he still couldn't score (the way he's playin'): *he*'s pressing her - *I*'m the refuge. The attraction between us is so strong that he's coming across as sticky & grasping by comparison.

That's a game he'll have a hard time winning.
(he said he didn't want to compete against me - wonder why?)
 
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Is he a balanced individual or some nut case!? We don't know these people and you do.
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now THAT's a question!

at this point, I'd have to say a bit of both: he's impressive and imposing in a ratty, waifish way, but he's a supreme slacker who's done little in life but indulge himself & duck out when things got too real. My sense is that all this is bringing him 'round & giving him a look at how much of life he's just let slide by; I suspect she is as much a symbol of how much water has gone under his particular bridge as she is the 'love of his life' - and he may be thinking that if he can get her back then EVERYTHING wil be okay....
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I could tell from your words this is tearing you up. First of all, (for your sake), make damn sure this woman hasn't been stringing this guy along. My concern is YOU! I know you think she's great and I hope with all my heart she is... but if she's some habitual heartbreaker that's going to bring unnecessary drama into your life... you don't need this bro! This is YOUR TIME.... the rise of the Pheonix!
As painful as it might be, to get involved with an individual who is going to drain your energy which should be focused on "Gutting it out and rebuilding", should be avoided.
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Clearly this is not your first time through these woods, stranger!

I won't pretend thare are no broken hearts behind her (I have a few behind me, too), but she is most direct and honest and unsparing (which, after 6 years of being unable to get a yes-or-no answer about what's on TV, is very confidence-inspiring), and I sense no deception when she's talking to me; and what HE says about his conversations with her match with what SHE tells me about their conversations, and that also inspires confidence. Best I can tell, she keeps her friends (male and female) for a long time, and doesn't burn bridges unless she has to. Doesn't really fit the rapacious heartbreaker pattern (or so I think).

On the drama front, she apologised to me the other night for all the drama w/ the other guy, observed that soem people *like* drama, and asked if I'd still be around when the feces stop flying. I know this is all wearing on her - she can't help being in the middle to some extent, and she's having trouble sleeping because of all the loose emotion, but it's pretty clear she's NOT thriving on the tumult.

What was stuck in my craw was him acting like he had something to say about my relationship with someone else: in my marriages, I have ended up feeling like I wasn't my own boss...and I don't like that feeling. So I was feeling trapped, stuck again in an old pattern...and I really didn't like it at all.
cowardly lion said:
I truly don't want to overstep any bounds, but you have a heart, a big heart...a good heart. The kind that toxic people will latch on to and drain until their done and move on to the next victim. I'm not making accusations! On the other hand if this guy has been hearing things like he might have a chance, then she meets you and its "too bad so sad!" Are you next?
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no boundaries violated, bro, so don't sweat it - your concerns are real and valid, and I'm grateful to you for voicing them: I would truly be a fool if I were not willing to look at these things (*especially* w/ MY history!). You honor both of us.

I have been latched onto, just as you describe, and it is an ugly, ugly thing: the last one I fell to ruined what was left of my health & set me up for much of what I've been going through in recent years (yeah, I probably left this part out of my initial post). Believe me when I say I *AM* on guard against that happening to me again, and I welcome every assistance in the effort!Thanks for your concern, and for playing on my team - enjoy your beer, with my compliments!
 
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ryano said:
"Anybody but him" means that you pose a true threat to him. Testament to what a great guy you are. All is fair in love and war. Take it!:duel:
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thanks, Ryan! maybe my take on it is colder than yours: I think he's already lost. I can't threaten him, or be any threat to him, because he had already bailed; if she has truly moved on (even though it hurts her to have him pull at her like this), then it's too late & all we can really do is be gentle with him while he realises he's done it to himself.

We had a long talk the other night, and a lot of things shifted: we've taken a couple of big steps toward becoming more of a couple. One thing she said was that the other guy's attempt to separate us couldn't accomplish anything for him, that what we have is what she wants & she never had that with him or anyone else & he's just howling at the moon. (I feel the same way, BTW: even with Kathy, who I loved so completely, there was never this fire, this wicked delight in being together...new for me; different; worth keeping)

She had a long talk w/ him last night - apparently it was pretty rough on her (she tried really hard for a long time, apparently, to get him to take her seriously as a partner). She basically told him that he isn't in charge, and we're not going to arrange our relationship to suit him, and no matter how much compassion we might have for his feelings, his wounds are self-inflicted and we can't fix them for him.

Some "threat", huh?

UPDATE:
Turns out I'd only heard the half-time report.

theme for the second half:
"what part of 'too late' do you not understand?"
 
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BodyWizard said:
UPDATE:
Turns out I'd only heard the half-time report.

theme for the second half:
"what part of 'too late' do you not understand?"
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it occurred to me this might not be clear.

I'm calling this game, set & match -
she refused to budge, told him he's too late, we're not going to stop seeing each other, our sex-life is none of his business and he can either deal or go away.

He will doubtless continue to press hard (and flop around), but he's quickly wearing out what little welcome he has left....

Poor guy - I DO feel for him (having put myself in simlilar situations in the past); still, I didn't screw up his world, and he won't screw up mine. We may go the distance, and we may not, but that's ours to work out, and we will.
 
I feel bad for him too. But sometimes learning a lesson the hard way some people learn. Its a win win situation for everybody is the way I see it. Dont beat yourself up about it.
 
Been away... these double back to back shifts are kick`n my ass. In again at 9:30 tonite.:sick:

Good to hear BW! She is yours till she says otherwise!

Quick update: week 5 of Ecto and my appitite is gone, none existant. Back at 250 from 258. Noticable loss of belly fat but that is where all mine hangs out anyway:aargh: Been getting some quick, as in 4 exercise 3 set WOs with the weights at work. Very limited with equipment but it works. Think 5 gallon buckets filled with sand for shrugs type stuff. Wanted to go "BoboCut"* but with the work it would be wasting his time and my money.



* All rights and claims to above phrase are strictly limited to the author... Unless you are a Clown :lol:
 
Week 24 of 32 / Hexatropin #5

Weight: 194# Waist: 38“ Bodyfat: 15.4%

Dose 02 - - 05/15
Off - - - - - - 05/16
Dose 03 - - 05/17
Dose 04 - - 05/18
Off - - - - - - 05/19
Off - - - - - - 05/20

Weight: 188# Waist: 37“ Bodyfat: 16.3%

Quite a week.
Physical therapy is making real strides, and my 3-week extension hasn’t kicked in yet!
I have hopes I’ll be able to get back to weighted work before the Hex runs out - I have 7 weeks left (@ 5/2 dosing). Once I have the weight bench indoors, it will be much easier (ever inhale a lungfull of mosquitos?). While I have to consider it a good thing to be doing PT during this dance, I regret the interference with the strength/endurance portion that results from the activity restrictions that accompany the PT.

As of today, I have lost ~80# since my peak (02/04) weight of 268 - an average weight loss of 1.42#/week. Avg bodyweight has dropped ~3% since I began in December, and waist has lost 3” in the same period.

I’ve started to get remarks about my hair: amusingly, several people have asked me this weekend if I’d recently cut my hair. What really makes this funny is that some of these people have known me since before I *started* shaving my head, and my hair has been ~.25“ since I *stopped* shaving my head 3 years ago: I run the clippers myself & keep it trimmed up every week. This tells me they’re registering something different, and they’re trying to account for it.

In other news, the GF war is over.
He pushed too hard for too long, and she told him to go away & stay gone; she no longer takes or returns his calls. I don’t feel *real* sorry for him ATM, as girls are coming out of the woodwork to console him (the ever-popular ”tortured artist“ effect).... I saw him yesterday, and this is *not* a broken-hearted guy.

For our part, the challenge is finding enough time to get together (doesn’t look like we’ll be sleeping alone much). Things will have to cool off when Daughter gets back from visiting her mom (a little too quick to spring a new GF on her, following the break-up revelation, methinks) ...but I don’t think this is gonna cool off much.

I am feeling very much ”TEH WINNAR!!!11“
...as we roll on into summer like a freight train....
 
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Addendum:

"recent events" make it possible now to compare my current health'n'fitness to my pre-Tropin state: I'll try to avoid being too graphic.

At this point, I have been in a state of near-continual arousal for 3 weeks (+/-); observation suggests that natural test production is significantly above the levels achieved in recent years; this is based primarily on physiologic responses to the presence of a willing (!) partner, mood changes (increased assertiveness, aggression & cheerfulness) & resilience (short on sleep, long on stimulation, mood strong & stable, unflappable in the face of various pressures).

I feel like I'm performing at a peak level in general (not counting bedroom olympics - we're still planning the opening ceremonies): I feel 'lit from within', giving good guidance, good treatment, good parenting. The sense of life-as-thankless-struggle is *GONE*. Not much (if any) exaggeration to say that I *feel* at least 10 years younger than I did 6 months ago; in some ways, I feel 20 years younger - and in some ways, I'm feeling much like a teenager.

My attitude has changed from depressed to enthusiatic, from hopeless to gregarious. I am positive, cheerful and magnetic to a degree that friends and family haven't seen in years. I am bursting with plans and ideas, and I have more energy and enthusiasm every day - so much so that I need to start martialling my resources, rather than simply spending them.

Looking at my experiment from that angle, I'd have to say that this has been a resounding success *already* - and still most of 2 months to go on the original plan.

Once the knee is cleared for some actual WORK, will resume the high-speed pursuit of my new hotness.

Speaking of the new hotness, I want to differentiate between the cumulative effects of the GHRPs, the cumulative effect of being in a very entertaining relationship, and the effects of the toremifene I added last month.

The toremifene has without question fired my nuts up: no bloodwork, but libido is up satisfyingly, fat is dropping, mood is greatly improved, and I am physically very comfortable (except for the knees, joint pain overall has virtually disappeared).

NGF has also fired my libido (she really is incredibly hot), but I doubt that my libido would be so high without the jumpstart.

Until I added the torem, effect of the GHRPs on libido & relateds was modest to minimal; now, everything seems to be swimming / screaming right along.

As I have said before: my sincere gratitude to IBE for making this product available! You guys deserve to do very well in return for this!
 
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BodyWizard said:
Addendum:

"recent events" make it possible now to compare my current health'n'fitness to my pre-Tropin state: I'll try to avoid being too graphic.

At this point, I have been in a state of near-continual arousal for 3 weeks (+/-); observation suggests that natural test production is significantly above the levels achieved in recent years; this is based primarily on physiologic responses to the presence of a willing (!) partner, mood changes (increased assertiveness, aggression & cheerfulness) & resilience (short on sleep, long on stimulation, mood strong & stable, unflappable in the face of various pressures).

I feel like I'm performing at a peak level in general (not counting bedroom olympics - we're still planning the opening ceremonies): I feel 'lit from within', giving good guidance, good treatment, good parenting. The sense of life-as-thankless-struggle is *GONE*. Not much (if any) exaggeration to say that I *feel* at least 10 years younger than I did 6 months ago; in some ways, I feel 20 years younger - and in some ways, I'm feeling much like a teenager.

My attitude has changed from depressed to enthusiatic, from hopeless to gregarious. I am positive, cheerful and magnetic to a degree that friends and family haven't seen in years. I am bursting with plans and ideas, and I have more energy and enthusiasm every day - so much so that I need to start martialling my resources, rather than simply spending them.

Looking at my experiment from that angle, I'd have to say that this has been a resounding success *already* - and still most of 2 months to go on the original plan.

Once the knee is cleared for some actual WORK, will resume the high-speed pursuit of my new hotness.

Speaking of the new hotness, I want to differentiate between the cumulative effects of the GHRPs, the cumulative effect of being in a very entertaining relationship, and the effects of the toremifene I added last month.

The toremifene has without question fired my nuts up: no bloodwork, but libido is up satisfyingly, fat is dropping, mood is greatly improved, and I am physically very comfortable (except for the knees, joint pain overall has virtually disappeared).

NGF has also fired my libido, but I doubt that my libido would be so high without the jumpstart.

Until I added the torem, effect of the GHRPs on libido & relateds was modest to minimal; now, everything seems to be swimming / screaming right along.

As I have said before: my sincere gratitude to IBE for making this product available! You guys deserve to do very well in return for this!
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Like in the movie Cocoon?:cheers:
 
more like than you might think...

'course the trifecta adds to the overall effect
("all part of this nutritious breakfast!")


[ 999 posts!!! must do something special for the 1k...) ]
 
Week 25 of 32 / Hexatropin #5

Weight: 188# Waist: 37“ Bodyfat: 16.3% / 23.25%

Dose 05 - - 05/21
Off - - - - - - 05/22
Off - - - - - - 05/23
Off - - - - - - 05/24
Dose 06 - - 05/25
Dose 07 - - 05/26
Dose 08 - - 05/27

Weight: 188# Waist: 37“ Bodyfat: 16.3% / 23.25%

The new bodyfat figure is courtesy of the Dave Draper method, recently posted by BigVrunga - this figure is reported to be quite accurate (didn’t I get a similar formula from Lyle McDonald years ago?), and is much more reflective of what my eyes & fingers tell me than the potential mumbo-jumbo from my calipers. Not that I’m happy with 23%, but it does seem a more realistic figure - and it takes nothing away from my 80# loss (which is still holding).

Has been an extremely busy week - helped prepare food & manage food service for a large 5-day retreat, so it’s been 12-14 hours a day on my feet, dealing with crowds, sorting things out & making things happen; have also been spending every spare minute w/ the NGF (and that’s been hard to work out). Yes, things are still both strong and hot in that department! Now, the big adventure: she got into a small scrape in Alabama over the weekend, so I’m driving over this afternoon to provide moral support & help sort things out (fortunately, I have the flexibility to do that right now). Today’s going to be spent almost entirely on the road.

Diet this week has been barbecue (mostly)
Exercise this week has been the food-service decathlon (mostly)

Bad news is my knees are seriously suffering;
good news is everything’s humming right along

Order to the helm: steady as she goes!
next week's log should be more thorough, as I should have much more time.

col_kurtz - glad to have you aboard!
please feel free to chime in anytime.
 
Sounds like the NGF has a syngergistic effect with the tropins.

Wait till the bedroom olympics start..talk about some exercise.

I hope you have plenty of Toremefine. :chick:
 
back home from my food-service weekend/trip to Bama; tired, but work done, everything straightened out/accounted-for/repaired/whatever. Things w/ NGF continue to be amazing; we continue to be "not having sex" - though after last night, that's a pretty academic distinction....

Estimated hormonal age/fitness exquivalent @ present: 25 - 28
(when horizontal, anyway....).

...and 'check' on the toremifene.... :twisted:
...and the NGF/'tropin synergies.... :head:
 
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well, we've been so charged up for so long, that sitting in public having a normal conversation is practically a sexual event - and without any direct or indirect teasing, gestures, double-entendres: perfectly appropirate behaviour; when we're close enough to hold hands, it gets more intense.

And yet...we sleep together every night, and without any dry-humping madness, blue-balls or frayed nerves: it just feels great to be around her, and we sleep together well, and it's fun waking up with her...and we just have a great time.

We have our moments, of course, but they're practically invisible; mostly we see things the same, and handle things the same, so those things just never amount to much; we just keep going, or do something else & come back to it later.

And I'm usually hard, and she's always wet.

So, see, we're *not* having sex, really & truly...it's just, that doesn't seem to mean much in the overall context.

We're planning a weekend away next month. *THEN* we will stop waiting, and start playing for real! :woohoo: :head: :woohoo:
 
Hey BW. Glad to hear things are moving along so nicely for you. I'm just concerned that all of this sex that you're not having may make her change her view of you (maybe subconciously) that will make her not view you "in that way." Have you guys discussed what will go on in the future?
 
BioHazzard said:
Someone is in love. :drunk:
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Yep!!! No needto stick a fork in this one......he is DONE!
Seriously though BW, please,please,please be careful.
You could have the best recipe in the world, exotic rare ingretients, five star kitchen, world reknown chefs. But If you cook it wrong.........? I know I sound like a stick in the mud. Please forgive me if I have offended. The fact that it has been only a few weeks worries me a little. But you are adults and sometimes "when you know ... you just know."
LOL . Hows that for fence ridin'!
My hope is for happiness for all parties involved. Be well my friend. Actually that should be friends, as I think she should be included.... I think she'll be around for awhile. Tell her Cowardly Lion says hello!
All the best,
CL
 
Bionic said:
Hey BW. Glad to hear things are moving along so nicely for you. I'm just concerned that all of this sex that you're not having may make her change her view of you (maybe subconciously) that will make her not view you "in that way."
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my brother, I totally understand your concern: be at peace!
this thing is hotter than any firecracker every day, every night, every touch, every look....
Have you guys discussed what will go on in the future?
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we have: we both know this could be temporary, but we're both thinking about the long haul & making this last & figuring out how to be together as much as possible without getting our lives messed up. We talk about how we want to live, and where, what we want to do together (not just between the sheets). Like I say, it could be short-lived, but we've got our eyes open, and we know what we want - and we see what we want in each other; and we both want to give it every opportunity to last a long, long time.

We just told some of our friends last night about us, and most of her friends have known for awhile (I know at least some of them disapprove) so the road ahead, the path we're on, the life we want to share is never far from our thoughts. If we're still like this come September, I want her to move in here with me.

And if it ended today, I'd STILL count myself a very lucky man for having had her in my life....

so, am I et up with it or what???
 
cowardly lion said:
Yep!!! No needto stick a fork in this one......he is DONE!
Seriously though BW, please,please,please be careful.
You could have the best recipe in the world, exotic rare ingretients, five star kitchen, world reknown chefs. But If you cook it wrong.........?
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believe it or not, my friend, we are NOT rushing *anything* - we ARE moving very fast, but we are not rushing.

It's kind of like those fairly magic moments when you meet someone & you just click, and everything breaks just the right way and you end up having the kind of day you'll remember for a while - and then the next time it just doesn't click - or there is not next time?

Except we click every time. Every time is better than the previous time, because we know each other better, the trust is deeper, the confidence is higher, the attraction stronger...and anticipation is heightened. So we get the magic moment whenever we're together, every time. Even when there's flying feces - or nothing going on at all - we end up closer, glad we're together, & grateful for the opportunity.

it seems to be a predictable effect of us being together, and I gotta ask:
would *you* turn away? Who would?

I mean, maybe this isn't what everyone wants, but it's what I want, and if I just can't find anything to worry about, I'd be a fool to hang back because "it's *too* good - might be a trap!" So far, we're weathering things very well, and neither of us expects clear skies and smooth sailing forever; we're working on a solid foundation for when the hard rains come.

after all the hubbub in the last 2 months, we've come to trust this: we've seen each other under a lot of different circumstances, seen each other deal with difficult stuff; we're smart and observant, and each of us is alert for possible malfunctions - and we both keep finding things to admire, not things to worry about. what we're learning about each other is really opening us up to each other in every way, and so far, there's only increasing confidence.


I know I sound like a stick in the mud. Please forgive me if I have offended. The fact that it has been only a few weeks worries me a little. But you are adults and sometimes "when you know ... you just know."
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as usual, you haven't offended me at all: you've hit the nail in the head - it feels right in every way, we communicate as well as we do everything else, I can't round up the usual suspects, 'cause they've gone missing. more & more, we just want to spend more and more time together - there're so many things we want to do together, and it's going to take some time to arrange our lives so we can have that kind of time together. I'm not worried by this but encouraged! in 6 years, my wife and I made no plans, didn't get excited about doing things together, didn't want to go the same (or even simliar) places or do the same (or similar) things, didn't have the same friends. Now my previously austere and lonely life is as full of love and laughter and activity and sheer joy as I ever in my wildest dreams could have hoped for.

still hurdles ahead, obstacles to overcome, uncertainties to ride out - but I'm not giving her up - and I'm not giving up on her.

I mean wouldn't it be like saying "thank you, God, she's everything I asked for, we're totally perfect for each other and we're perfect together...but have you got anything else on tap?"
My hope is for happiness for all parties involved. Be well my friend. Actually that should be friends, as I think she should be included.... I think she'll be around for awhile. Tell her Cowardly Lion says hello!
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I was seriously contemplating asking her to a say a word to you guys for my 1000h post, but things happen, y'know. She began to read this log today, and may well have words once she's done...(hi, sweetie!).
 
I would like to say hi to her..that would be fun. I glad I kept everything somewhat respectable! :cool:
 
BodyWizard said:
believe it or not, my friend, we are NOT rushing *anything* - we ARE moving very fast, but we are not rushing.

It's kind of like those fairly magic moments when you meet someone & you just click, and everything breaks just the right way and you end up having the kind of day you'll remember for a while - and then the next time it just doesn't click - or there is not next time?

Except we click every time. Every time is better than the previous time, because we know each other better, the trust is deeper, the confidence is higher, the attraction stronger...and anticipation is heightened. So we get the magic moment whenever we're together, every time. Even when there's flying feces - or nothing going on at all - we end up closer, glad we're together, & grateful for the opportunity.

it seems to be a predictable effect of us being together, and I gotta ask:
would *you* turn away? Who would?

I mean, maybe this isn't what everyone wants, but it's what I want, and if I just can't find anything to worry about, I'd be a fool to hang back because "it's *too* good - might be a trap!" So far, we're weathering things very well, and neither of us expects clear skies and smooth sailing forever; we're working on a solid foundation for when the hard rains come.

after all the hubbub in the last 2 months, we've come to trust this: we've seen each other under a lot of different circumstances, seen each other deal with difficult stuff; we're smart and observant, and each of us is alert for possible malfunctions - and we both keep finding things to admire, not things to worry about. what we're learning about each other is really opening us up to each other in every way, and so far, there's only increasing confidence.


as usual, you haven't offended me at all: you've hit the nail in the head - it feels right in every way, we communicate as well as we do everything else, I can't round up the usual suspects, 'cause they've gone missing. more & more, we just want to spend more and more time together - there're so many things we want to do together, and it's going to take some time to arrange our lives so we can have that kind of time together. I'm not worried by this but encouraged! in 6 years, my wife and I made no plans, didn't get excited about doing things together, didn't want to go the same (or even simliar) places or do the same (or similar) things, didn't have the same friends. Now my previously austere and lonely life is as full of love and laughter and activity and sheer joy as I ever in my wildest dreams could have hoped for.

still hurdles ahead, obstacles to overcome, uncertainties to ride out - but I'm not giving her up - and I'm not giving up on her.

I mean wouldn't it be like saying "thank you, God, she's everything I asked for, we're totally perfect for each other and we're perfect together...but have you got anything else on tap?"

I was seriously contemplating asking her to a say a word to you guys for my 1000h post, but things happen, y'know. She began to read this log today, and may well have words once she's done...(hi, sweetie!).
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I'm sorry,,,,I know I sounded like a dad or something! I 'm so happy for you, I just hope(for her as much as you) that things evolve into the best possible situation for both of you. I mean YOU have been through the ringer. As far as I'm concerned "she's in"
So....madame...welcome! Thank you for saving our friend! He has never sounded happier. I hope you become a member and post with us at your leisure. BW I again apologize for being so "nosey", its just that I have had parallell events in my life and I consider you a big brother!
This is just wonderful news!!! I wish you both health, happiness, and wisdom. Please dont mistake concern for:nono: If there is anything I can do for you guys, just ask.
Nort sure I can accomodate, but I will certainly try.
BTW Bw your stats are very impressive. Keep it up! Dont forget Tai Chi, Chi Gung and Yoga. You have done it!
I am so proud of you!! And Ms NGF anytime you would like to
post for the CL, feel free, I look foward to getting to know you!
All the best!
CL
 
Week 26 of 32 / Hexatropin #5

Weight: 188# Waist: 37“ Bodyfat: 23.25%

Weight: 181# Waist: 36“ Bodyfat: 22.17%

my apologies, guys - things have gotten a bit spotty.

I’ve had only 2 doses of the Hexatropin since last update (one was last night); this is due to the fact that we tend to fall asleep in mid-kiss around 4AM.... I’m starting to think a mid-morning or late-afternoon dosing may be my best option, at least for now.

My knees are recovering from the food-service ordeal, and PT is going well. More than anything else, I need sleep. I’ve added in the REM caps, and they definitely help (thanks, BryanFury!), and the synergies have my hormones generally humming right along.

Had a conversation w/ my soon-to-be-ex: we’re on the last round of settling things between us. Told her about NGF and she got a big smile, and said, ”honey, that’s wonderful - I’m so happy for you!“ Yeah, no kidding...we then went off to enjoy a very pleasant lunch together....

And the other guy has washed his hands of it (I met *his* NGF today...WOW....), so there’s nothing for it but figuring out how to get the most mileage out of being together.

End of drama. End of report.
 
Maybe you should introduce the other guy to the soon to be ex wife...then everybody's happy!
 
ryano said:
Maybe you should introduce the other guy to the soon to be ex wife...then everybody's happy!
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she already knows him; when I mentioned that he wasn't happy about us, STB-Ex-Wife said, "f*ck him!"

I don't think she'd go for him....
 
I was mostly joking... While I feel sorry for the guy...he doesnt sound like someone I would recommend to a meter maid.
 
Hi, guys. NGF here! I've never been a health supplement before -- it's hard to see the effect one has simply because one wasn't there before, but you're not the first people I've heard say that BW is doing better and seems much happier. STB-Ex-Wife said so, too, which made me really happy, knowing that she still loves him so much and wants to see him happy. (Wow, I seem to be using that word a lot these days!)

Anyway, I just wanted to say hey as a semi-lurker (reading over BW's shoulder) ... is there anything you want to know?

(yes, that's her - me...)
 
Kind of surprised that no-one said hi to her (or did you guys think it was *ME*???)

Anyway...
Weight: 181# Waist: 36“ Bodyfat: 22.17%
weight: 179# Waist: 36" BF% 22.15

only 2 doses again this week

went to meet her mom yesterday - nice lady.
daughter comes back this week - no more sleep-overs for a while (*BOO*!)....

I'm told I now have an actual hairline - which apparently I did NOT have when we started dating....

I'm goign to ramp back on the romance reportage - will let y'all know how the getaway goes, though....
 
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Hows it going...Sorry I didnt say hello. I feel kind of awkward calling her er you NGF. Maybe we should start her own account so she could post under her own name.

Hmm as far as questions...I dunno really...not to many yet BW has been keeping us pretty up to date.

Its good to finally meet you. :dance:
 
Hello Ms.BW!!!
Sorry I didn't get to say hi earlier, haven't been online much
this week. And I hope "happy" stays in your vocabulary for a
long, long, time!
CL
 
BodyWizard said:
Kind of surprised that no-one said hi to her (or did you guys think it was *ME*???)

...
I'm goign to ramp back on the romance reportage - will let y'all know how the getaway goes, though....
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GOOD PLAN ;)

Cheers BW!

P.S. If you are interested in something else (and cheap) to try for that hairline, I definitely recommend trueroman's laser hair brush. It's worked better than I'd dared to dream for me.
 
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