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DAA is useless, IMO.

Celorza said:
Curious...if he had peak levels of T , how do you want DAA to increase endogenous production if his system is already at max or near max output? As presented before DAA will not yield (to my knowledge) supra physical values of testosterone Valdez.
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Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA's ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
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Must have missed that point, good to know it can actually work for supraphysical levels though. Thanks Cy!
 
In for people twisting bdcc's words around! :-)

And Valdez thinking out loud.
 
My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
 
Red Fox said:
My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
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Then that's it , you are a non-responder to DAA. Try Bulbine and see if you respond better to it.
 
Red Fox said:
My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
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SNS reps are an aggressive species.
 
Red Fox said:
My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
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SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

- Valdez
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I was actually referring to the guy who said I was trolling or some other person or something. I think he said I was another account.
 
Valdez said:
SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

- Valdez
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Hey, I'll take some advice... I'm sweden and mine sits at ~500. 900 would be amazong
 
Killler said:
SNS reps are an aggressive species.
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I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
 
Jiigzz said:
I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
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I know what the problem is...... All reps in here here are taking Daa right now and their answers are very aggressive and offensive too. Sh*t was work;)
 
Jiigzz said:
I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
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Lol I was kinda joking.

There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

Who cares,chill out.
 
Killler said:
Lol I was kinda joking.

There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

Who cares,chill out.
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Merry Christmas Killer!
 
Killler said:
Lol I was kinda joking.

There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

Who cares,chill out.
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Actually,I am not being fair here.

There is only one SNS rep that really really gets on my nerves.
He`s on some other boards too,not just AM.

I apologize to all the other ones for my previous hasty statement.




p.s.it`s not you Celorza.
 
Jiigzz said:
I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
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Mission1 said:
I know what the problem is...... All reps in here here are taking Daa right now and their answers are very aggressive and offensive too. Sh*t was work;)
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Lol!

- Valdez
 
Drizzie88 said:
Hey, I'll take some advice... I'm sweden and mine sits at ~500. 900 would be amazong
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My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

- Valdez
 
Killler said:
Lol I was kinda joking.

There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

Who cares,chill out.
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Lol, I am chill... Just sharing my thoughts.
 
Valdez said:
My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

- Valdez
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Bottle it and distribute it. If that doesn't help him, he can try BB.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA's ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
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Interesting... always amaze me with your knowledge. Did you get this information other than the clinical study or did you just stumble across it and remember it with your superior memory? lol

Hmmm i'm still debating whether or not to hop on the DAA train and try it.
 
"Stimulation with d-aspartic acid increases cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) in the receiving nerves. cAMP is a cell-regulating compound, probably the most important one. It plays an important role in the cellular reaction on hormones. Which benefits does increased cAMP have for your body? Among others reactions it increases the force of contraction of the heart muscle, helps the arteries and other smooth muscles to relax, increases the secretion of insulin and increased lipolysis (fat destruction). In other words increased cAMP makes your workouts easier and helps you to burn fat."
 
Lol.. i know what DAA does with cAMP, but with the Steroidogenic acute regulatory protein (or stAR) is new to me, and that was what i was looking for but now i found it and im reading, reading, reading!Thanks for posting though!
 
Valdez said:
My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

- Valdez
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Shoot me a PM when you have time. I'm interested to say the least.
 
Mission1 said:
Bottle it and distribute it. If that doesn't help him, he can try BB.
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If it doesn't work ill just run SD at 40mg for six weeks then cruise at 20mg. I heard that was a good way to boost test :)
 
Bamski said:
Interesting... always amaze me with your knowledge. Did you get this information other than the clinical study or did you just stumble across it and remember it with your superior memory? lol

Hmmm i'm still debating whether or not to hop on the DAA train and try it.
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Yeah, it was in the original clinical trial and also a pair of other rat studies. Reading new texts on this kind of stuff is leisurely reading for me so I guess it sticks lol.
 
Red Fox said:
I see a lot of hype around this.

I tried two supplements in the past, both SNS DAA tablets and their powder.

I got blood work done a few weeks into it (about 3.4), and my testosterone levels had moved a total of 28 points, which was such a minimal change that it could be due to me taking the blood test half an hour earlier than my last one.

Stuff is junk, imo.
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I think that if most people actually had labs done, they would find the same. It actually lowered my test levels and in several other threads, others have found the same, or no improvement. I think it is a severely over hyped product- second only to arginine.
 
kisaj said:
I think that if most people actually had labs done, they would find the same. It actually lowered my test levels and in several other threads, others have found the same, or no improvement. I think it is a severely over hyped product- second only to arginine.
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Really? Arginine? That seems a little far fetched to me. I mean that's your opinion and thank you for stating the "I think" before your assertions so people do not misunderstand your opinion as fact.

The bottom line is that all supplements do not work for everyone and for everyone of you that say that it does not work; there are just as many that have had great success with it and swear by it.

Thank you for sharing your experience and hopefully you have better luck with other ingredients in the future :)

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
Really? Arginine? That seems a little far fetched to me. I mean that's your opinion and thank you for stating the "I think" before your assertions so people do not misunderstand your opinion as fact.

The bottom line is that all supplements do not work for everyone and for everyone of you that say that it does not work; there are just as many that have had great success with it and swear by it.

Thank you for sharing your experience and hopefully you have better luck with other ingredients in the future :)

- Valdez
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I'n my case I feel the effects of Daa within 3 days. Most notable is libido!. I'm constantly being awaken by my penis. Sometimes 2 or 3 times a night. As far as my test levels getting checked never had to do it. I'm so connected with my body I know if its placebo or not. Maybe it's my age, I don't know. All I know is the effects are real. I know not to expect steroid type effects but I feel very good when I'm on it. I've taken it at 3 to 6 month stretches with NO issues.
 
Valdez said:
Really? Arginine? That seems a little far fetched to me. I mean that's your opinion and thank you for stating the "I think" before your assertions so people do not misunderstand your opinion as fact.

The bottom line is that all supplements do not work for everyone and for everyone of you that say that it does not work; there are just as many that have had great success with it and swear by it.

Thank you for sharing your experience and hopefully you have better luck with other ingredients in the future :)

- Valdez
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Hey man, I respect your opinion based on other posts and conversations we've had, so I'll just ask this: how do you still stand behind Arginine as being anything but over hyped the way it has been sold for years? It's well know that the effects are very minimal when it comes to NO, which is what it used to be continually marketed for. Now that we have access to Agmatine, people are starting to realize how they both work and realizing that it is essentially useless. Hell, a quick search on here will net Reps and other longtime members that have all stated this.

So maybe I overstated that it is worthless, because it does help heart health and some other functions, but I do stand by it being one of the most over-hyped supplements.
 
kisaj said:
Hey man, I respect your opinion based on other posts and conversations we've had, so I'll just ask this: how do you still stand behind Arginine as being anything but over hyped the way it has been sold for years? It's well know that the effects are very minimal when it comes to NO, which is what it used to be continually marketed for. Now that we have access to Agmatine, people are starting to realize how they both work and realizing that it is essentially useless. Hell, a quick search on here will net Reps and other longtime members that have all stated this.

So maybe I overstated that it is worthless, because it does help heart health and some other functions, but I do stand by it being one of the most over-hyped supplements.
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I don't think Valdez was standing behind arginine (I think he is smarter than that...) what I think he meant is the fact that you were exaggerating when you branded DAA in the same boat and second only to arginine. Meaning that Arginine is such garbage, trash and worthless that you were being unfair to DAA which actually has human clinical trials behind it. Even those trials prove it's not for everyone btw...so yeah :)
 
kisaj said:
Hey man, I respect your opinion based on other posts and conversations we've had, so I'll just ask this: how do you still stand behind Arginine as being anything but over hyped the way it has been sold for years? It's well know that the effects are very minimal when it comes to NO, which is what it used to be continually marketed for. Now that we have access to Agmatine, people are starting to realize how they both work and realizing that it is essentially useless. Hell, a quick search on here will net Reps and other longtime members that have all stated this.

So maybe I overstated that it is worthless, because it does help heart health and some other functions, but I do stand by it being one of the most over-hyped supplements.
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What Valdez was saying is that it is far-fetched that DAA is in the same league as arginine as far as efficacy goes. I don't think he stands behind arginine (I am just assuming though!).

EDIT: Wow I'm late lol.
 
Celorza said:
I don't think Valdez was standing behind arginine (I think he is smarter than that...) what I think he meant is the fact that you were exaggerating when you branded DAA in the same boat and second only to arginine. Meaning that Arginine is such garbage, trash and worthless that you were being unfair to DAA which actually has human clinical trials behind it. Even those trials prove it's not for everyone btw...so yeah :)
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^ This
mr.cooper69 said:
What Valdez was saying is that it is far-fetched that DAA is in the same league as arginine as far as efficacy goes. I don't think he stands behind arginine (I am just assuming though!).

EDIT: Wow I'm late lol.
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^ and this
 
Oh, I read it wrong. That makes me feel better.

Yeah, just an opinion based on personal DAA experience- nothing more.
 
kisaj said:
Oh, I read it wrong. That makes me feel better.

Yeah, just an opinion based on personal DAA experience- nothing more.
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Why not try CEL PCT Assist and/or Bulbine :)? Both of them are remarkably good for raising t levels and also keeping libido up!
 
Oh, I am on TRT- so no problem in any of those areas now! :)

This was back when I was trying different test boosters before I committed to going on.
 
Celorza said:
I don't think Valdez was standing behind arginine (I think he is smarter than that...) what I think he meant is the fact that you were exaggerating when you branded DAA in the same boat and second only to arginine. Meaning that Arginine is such garbage, trash and worthless that you were being unfair to DAA which actually has human clinical trials behind it. Even those trials prove it's not for everyone btw...so yeah :)
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mr.cooper69 said:
What Valdez was saying is that it is far-fetched that DAA is in the same league as arginine as far as efficacy goes. I don't think he stands behind arginine (I am just assuming though!).

EDIT: Wow I'm late lol.
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These two ;)

kisaj said:
Oh, I read it wrong. That makes me feel better.

Yeah, just an opinion based on personal DAA experience- nothing more.
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Absolutely man and I appreciate reviews good or bad :)


- Valdez
 
Mission1 said:
I'n my case I feel the effects of Daa within 3 days. Most notable is libido!. I'm constantly being awaken by my penis. Sometimes 2 or 3 times a night. As far as my test levels getting checked never had to do it. I'm so connected with my body I know if its placebo or not. Maybe it's my age, I don't know. All I know is the effects are real. I know not to expect steroid type effects but I feel very good when I'm on it. I've taken it at 3 to 6 month stretches with NO issues.
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And this man HATES supplements ;)

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
These two ;)



Absolutely man and I appreciate reviews good or bad :)


- Valdez
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As long as they are honest, reasonable and with good reason (i.e. bloods or anecdotal proof where bloods can't be attained) , then there are NO bad reviews. Just feedback on an ever changing industry that needs that exactly...consumer input to match their needs.
 
jimbuick said:
I am too.
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DAMMIT!!! My ****ing outbox ate my message to drizzie I was going to just forward... I'll retype you out one tomo I gotta eat and spend time with my chick until she goes to bed its her emotional time of the month. I wouldn't want her to think you guys are more important to me than her, lol! Can you tell we've had this convo before lmao!!

- Valdez
 
After 3 weeks in DAA + Erase I had testosterone results go from 450s to the upper 500's. Not going to complain about that.

And everything is going to be a point of view. I mean, an increase of 40 is an increase of 10% in your testosterone for a product that costs what, 10 bucks for a month supply? Sounds good to me, will take it any day.
 
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