D-zine or M1,4ADD/Epi?

TML499

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I'm looking to run another cycle during the spring, and I was wondering which people thought would be better for a lean bulk? My last cycle was H-drol for 6 weeks at 50/75/75/100/100/100, gained 15 lbs, kept 12. PCT was nolva/testbooster/cortisol control.

I would run D-zine at 30mg for ~5 weeks, possibly bump up to 45mg near the end.

M1,4/Epi would look like:

30/40 /40 /40 /40 /40
90/120/120/120/120/120

I would have formestane on hand in case any estrogen side effects arose from M1,4 and my PCT for either cycle would be nolva/testbooster/cortisol control again. I would likely run Androhard with either cycle to mitigate sides as well.

Which of these do you think would be better for a lean bulk? My main concern is size gains, as I was somewhat dissapointed with mass gains from H-drol. I'm also looking for strength, and since summer will be right around the corner, I'm looking to keep it lean.
 
I would be more inclined to do a M1,4add/Epi bridge than stacking them, for a couple reasons. I'm not a fan of stacking 2 methyls, and I think brideging into the epi would help dry out some of the wet gains from the M1,4add.

just my .02:)
 
RickRock13 said:
I would be more inclined to do a M1,4add/Epi bridge than stacking them, for a couple reasons. I'm not a fan of stacking 2 methyls, and I think brideging into the epi would help dry out some of the wet gains from the M1,4add.

just my .02:)
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X2,
 
id say bridge m14 and epi
 
RickRock13 said:
I would be more inclined to do a M1,4add/Epi bridge than stacking them, for a couple reasons. I'm not a fan of stacking 2 methyls, and I think brideging into the epi would help dry out some of the wet gains from the M1,4add.

just my .02:)
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this.

I ran m1,4 bridged to hdrol. If I had to do it over again, i would run it bridged to epi instead of h-drol. m1,4 really isn't going to keep you lean though. It will make you gain weight fast, and some of it will be fat.
 
I tried Dimeth twice from two different manufactures with little to no results. If you look at most posts, they are all over the board on Dimeth. If you look at its' history, it's basically a "forgotten" steroid from the 60's (Roxilon) resurrected as a PH. In my opinion, it was forgotten for a reason................it sucks.

If you want to stack something, replace the Dzine with Superdrol.
 
Presa said:
I tried Dimeth twice from two different manufactures with little to no results. If you look at most posts, they are all over the board on Dimeth. If you look at its' history, it's basically a "forgotten" steroid from the 60's (Roxilon) resurrected as a PH. In my opinion, it was forgotten for a reason................it sucks.

If you want to stack something, replace the Dzine with Superdrol.
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That's actually the first I've heard of this. Everything I've read about D-zine here and on PHF has been pretty positive. Anyone else have opinions on this?

I've been leaning D-zine recently because it isn't wet like M1,4.
 
I didn't see it mentioned, but I really liked the P-Mag cycle I did a few months ago. It was a nice combination of size without bloat or fat gain. You might want to give it a try if you can still find it.
 
By the way, I didn't get the "wet" result when I used M1,4ADD. I did, however, bridge it to D-Plex at the end. Before the D-Plex, I did not look or feel bloated or fatter.
 
MEPSE said:
By the way, I didn't get the "wet" result when I used M1,4ADD. I did, however, bridge it to D-Plex at the end. Before the D-Plex, I did not look or feel bloated or fatter.
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Thanks man your posts have been helpful. I was considering P-mag at first, but I know its often compared to H-drol, and I'm looking for better size gains than that delivered, hence me looking mainly at D-zine, m1,4, and epi.
 
TML499 said:
That's actually the first I've heard of this. Everything I've read about D-zine here and on PHF has been pretty positive. Anyone else have opinions on this?

I've been leaning D-zine recently because it isn't wet like M1,4.
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Check with Unreal machine on Dzine. He has the same opinion, and for some reason it is no where effective as Superdrol even though the azine bond.
 
the azine (nitrogen) bond is what changes the compound.

superdrol is 400/20

dimethazine is 200/95 (i think, but it's around that)

it's a different steroid than sd.

i'd say though go with sd/m14add if I had to pick two. man, that sounds great. hmm....
 
TML499 said:
Thanks man your posts have been helpful. I was considering P-mag at first, but I know its often compared to H-drol, and I'm looking for better size gains than that delivered, hence me looking mainly at D-zine, m1,4, and epi.
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I have never used H-Drol, but all of the information that I read from CEL said that P-Mag was like H-Drol, but it was a much better bulker. I gained more from a P-Mag pulse than anything I have used to date. This doesn't include my current daily low-dose M-Drol cycle, which seems to be going very well.
 
Bumping this thread, looking for opinions on D-zine solo vs D-zine stacked with something else (like m1,4add, tren, or bold) for a solid mostly lean bulk.
 
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