D-bol PCT

factoryracer

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Hey fellas, i am about to start a cycle of D-Bol only....i picked up some novedex xt.......its a test booster and anti aromatase and also is an e blocker......when do i start taking that and should that be good for keeping my gains.....

thanks
 
getting a real serm will help you keep the gains better and increase your natural test production faster.

have you done your research?
 
hey, yes i did do my research, if i do get a SERM it will be nolvadex, my guy cant get it anymore, so i got this novedex xt instead.....when should i start taking it, could i use it during the cycle for its anti aromatase and e blocker?? or wait until after??

thanks
 
my PCT as of now consists of:

2 weeks:

-4 novedex xt a night
-1000 mg of milk thistle
-2 ZMA a day
-2 grape extract (strong anit oxident)
- 1 fish oil
-1 multi v
-2 hawthorne berrie extract


what do you guys think?? will this be effective in keeping my gains and bringing my Nat test back to normal ??? ....when should i start doing my Novedex?? would it help if i stacked it with D-bol close to the end of the cycle or what??

thanks
 
if you dont like bloat and thats all you can get then u can use it on cycle. personally i dont use anti e's on cycle unless im getting gyno. If its all you got then its better than nothing for PCT. I would still try to get a SERM. What does your cycle look like, dosages and length?
 
Hey fellas, did my research, have found a lot of mixed emotions about d-bol only cycles and for its PCT.....here are my plans

D-bol cycle

week 1- 30mg a day
week 2- 40 mg a day
week 3- 50 mg a day
week 4- 40 mg a day
week 5- 30 mg a day
week 6-8 - PCT

PCT: 4 novedex xt
1000 mg of milk thistle
2 ZMA
2 grape extract
1 fish oil
1 multi v
2 hawthorne berrie extrac


what do you guys think??

please speak your mind, more opinions the better,

thanks


this is what i posted on the steroids thread......let me know what you guys think

thanks
 
i dont like the taper down with the dbol.

why the multi in pct mentioned? take that all the time.

zma can be used year round and on cycle as well.
grape seed extract too. Actually all those PCT supps besides the novedex xt can and should be used in PCT.

1 fish oil? wtf is that. 1 is not enough lol.

You shouldnt even use steroids you dont seem ready at all!!!!
 
the fish oil pills are 1000mg , from what ive researched thats more then enough.....why dont you like the taper down on the bdol?? you thin i should just keep goin up and stop totally and start pct??? i though maybe taper down and then start pct?? what are your thoughts??

thanks
 
taper down is pointless, you're still suppressing natural testosterone because even low dosed Dbol is way stronger than ur normal levels

some of the guys here like to run fish oil at 5-10g per day. Sometimes more ;)
 
factoryracer said:
Hey fellas, did my research, have found a lot of mixed emotions about d-bol only cycles and for its PCT.....here are my plans

D-bol cycle

week 1- 30mg a day
week 2- 40 mg a day
week 3- 50 mg a day
week 4- 40 mg a day
week 5- 30 mg a day
week 6-8 - PCT

PCT: 4 novedex xt
1000 mg of milk thistle
2 ZMA
2 grape extract
1 fish oil
1 multi v
2 hawthorne berrie extrac


what do you guys think??

please speak your mind, more opinions the better,

thanks


this is what i posted on the steroids thread......let me know what you guys think

thanks
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do more...research that is. i'd run test...i have dbol and am sitting on it until i get test. because test. is far less toxic and test. is going to give better gains in the long run. yes i said test. 4 times:thumbsup:
 
ahhaha test test test............thanks for that with the fish oil i thought 1000 mg was more then enough.....ok so a question here, do i need to take any anti e while on dbol or do i just take it after the cycle is done?
 
i think you're making a big mistake running this cycle without a SERM bro. D-bol is an actual harsh anabolic steroid. It will shut you down and Novadex isn't a SERM and won't help you post cycle with recovery and estrogen-blocking. D-bol converts to a very potent estrogen. If you can, search for Toremifene Citrate as a SERM and look for Arimidex as well, which is a steroidal AI. Do it right or don't do it at all man. That's not to be mean, that's in the interest of saving you from making a mistake and screwing up your body. Without the right ingredients for a PCT, you likely won't be able to hold on to most of the gains you make and you will face shut down and high estro levels.

If you just can't get your hands on a SERM or a real AI then defer the D-bol and go with something more along the lines of Epistane. Epi isn't nearly as harsh and you shouldn't get many sides. In the absence of a real SERM, Novadex, a natty test booster and maybe some trans-reservatrol (look at Post Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations) would be alright, though still not the best, but def more effective than with D-bol.

Rather than using Hawthorne berry and milk thistle buy CYCLE SUPPORT by Anabolic Innovations. Get two of them - one for your cycle and one for PCT. Also, invest in a natural antioxidant like Vitamin C or CoQ-10 for cortisol modulation. It sounds to me like you aren't ready to attempt a cycle yet. Do a little more research and be patient and do something when you are absolutely certain you know everything you need to know and have everything you need to use.
 
what about nolvadex??? that would be fine as a pct right?? is it possible to order that on the internet?? if so can you send me a link to where i can find it.....
 
factoryracer said:
what about nolvadex??? that would be fine as a pct right?? is it possible to order that on the internet?? if so can you send me a link to where i can find it.....
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dude thats not allowed here. you cant ask how to obtain that. its a controlled substance. edit your post and dont do it again.

you really have no clue do you? consider yourself negggggggged!
 
factoryracer said:
hey, yes i did do my research, .....when should i start taking it, could i use it during the cycle for its anti aromatase and e blocker?? or wait until after??

thanks
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If you had done your research, then you shouldn't need to ask such simple questions. Just saying.

I would recommend putting off this cycle until you are ready.

Good luck with your decisions.
 
I think you are probably too young and dumb to be going down this road. Time and lots of real research are what you need. A product writeup or some wikipedia article do NOT qualify as "thorough research."
 
Some warning flags you might need more research;

1) no serm (have fun with some hard lumps behind those painful nips)
2) 4 nolvadex/day for pct (have fun with your non existant libido also)
3) Dbol taper (waste to pyramid dbol you will only stay suppressed longer)
4) No AI on cycle (dbol will bloat up up quicker than a pmsing girl hoarding a caseload of chocolate while yelling about how much of a ***** you are)
 
I would not touch D-bol without as SERM and AI on hand.
I've developed some nice gyno (Thanks Epidrol!) that I am still fighting off.

I started a Test, EQ, and D-Bol cycle and three days in my nip started to hurt gain. I dropped the D-bol and now things are getting back to normal. I have been running letro at 1.25 to 2.5 mg ED for the last 5 weeks and still got a flare up which I blame totally on D-bol. The stuff aromatizes like no one's business...
 
Erekose said:
I would not touch D-bol without as SERM and AI on hand.
I've developed some nice gyno (Thanks Epidrol!) that I am still fighting off.

I started a Test, EQ, and D-Bol cycle and three days in my nip started to hurt gain. I dropped the D-bol and now things are getting back to normal. I have been running letro at 1.25 to 2.5 mg ED for the last 5 weeks and still got a flare up which I blame totally on D-bol. The stuff aromatizes like no one's business...
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so EPi gave u gyno?
 
factoryracer said:
my PCT as of now consists of:

2 weeks:

-4 novedex xt a night
-1000 mg of milk thistle
-2 ZMA a day
-2 grape extract (strong anit oxident)
- 1 fish oil
-1 multi v
-2 hawthorne berrie extract


what do you guys think?? will this be effective in keeping my gains and bringing my Nat test back to normal ??? ....when should i start doing my Novedex?? would it help if i stacked it with D-bol close to the end of the cycle or what??

thanks
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NOPE!
 
when i did Dbol

my PCT was Nolva 20mg for 3 weeks, Aromasin 20mg for 2 weeks (starting week 1) 4 gram Trib and 17 hydroxy mesterone. i think after that my test was higher then before my cycle.
 
factoryracer said:
hey, yes i did do my research, if i do get a SERM it will be nolvadex, my guy cant get it anymore, so i got this novedex xt instead.....when should i start taking it, could i use it during the cycle for its anti aromatase and e blocker?? or wait until after??

thanks
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"my guy can't get it anymore?" I wasn't aware of needing a particular person to obtain a SERM...to me, it sounds like you just don't know how to find it. Another reason you should do more research...

why not start with doing something safer? H-drol?
 
eballarj said:
"my guy can't get it anymore?" I wasn't aware of needing a particular person to obtain a SERM...to me, it sounds like you just don't know how to find it. Another reason you should do more research...

why not start with doing something safer? H-drol?
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x2.

And there is no reason to run D-bol as opposed to H-drol or others. There is nothing magical about old-school orals.
Plus the new designers are legal in the US - another big bonus IMHO.
 
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