UnrealMachine
Well-known member
- Awards
- 2
I thought one of the most condensed forms of useful information possible would be a thread where every user posts a quick cycle synopsis for every cycle they have done, or at least the cycles that have been conclusive.
Contribute what you can to the database, so that we can reference it and show people what to expect out of cycles. Reading through this thread should provide a wealth of information to ALL users.
Please... I'd like to avoid dumbass questions and offtopic bull****, let's try to keep the thread a clean, concentrated source of information.
Go to quote and then copy and paste one of my entries to get the form right, and replace everything
1) Halodrol/Megazol RECOMP
Dose:
Halodrol 50/50/50/50, Megazol 00/00/00/150/200/250
Gains:
220 15% -> 220 15%
Conclusions:
Needed to dose much higher on both compounds, only ran 1 bottle of each and they barely had any effect on me. Learned that I don't respond very strongly. Also learned that steroids have no leaning out effect on me. I should have done more cardio instead of relying on them to take some fat off. Bottom line: dose higher
2) Phera Plex BULK
Dose:
Phera 30mg for 24 days
Gains:
240 18% -> 250 18% (wound up around 240 17% after PCT)
Conclusions:
Gains from short oral cycles are hard to keep, the faster they come the faster they go, i kept very little from the phera, I think it needs to be run heavier and longer than i did. Bottom line: need to run orals longer to keep gains
3) Epi Pulse with Clen CUT
Dose:
3x a week pulse 30/30/40/40/40/40/50/50
Clen 2 on 2 off the entire time
Gains:
~235 17% -> 217 12%
Conclusions:
Pulsing works, felt pumped even on off days, shutdown was negligible, no sides except for BP headaches which now I can attribute more to the clen than the Epi
Bottom line: Epi/Clen works great for a cut
4) Epi->Superdrol Bridge BULK
Dose:
Epi: 30/30/40/40/00/00/00
SD: 00/00/00/10/20/20/30
Gains:
206 10% to 224 11% (ended up 220 11-12%% after PCT)
Conclusions:
My gains didn't even begin until I got on Superdrol. So i learned that Epi really doesn't work for weight gains or strength gains for me. It did provide good vascularity and better pumps. But all the gains on this cycle came from Superdrol, sometimes I forget that this cycle started with an Epi cycle.
I found the gains from Superdrol to be insanely fast and awesome, and I also found them difficult to keep, i watched the weight drop off me during PCT even as I ate enough to increase my bodyfat slightly. I got stupid strong on cycle and most of that evaporated post cycle too.
I concluded that Superdrol needs to be bridged into something else run longer so that your body can get used to the gains and keep more of them.
Bottom line: SD kicks ass and Epi doesn't work well for me. SD needs to be bridged into something else to solidify the gains so you can actually keep them.
5) Phera RECOMP
Dose:
40/40/50/50
Gains:
220 ~12% to 220 10%, maybe 10.5%
Conclusions:
Found out that while Phera works for me it isn't particularly strong, i made very minor strength increases (about 10 pounds) and lost enough bodyfat to look a little more cut up.
Learned that phera can be used in a recomp, it had me looking hard and vascular, not bloated at all.
Phera needs to be stacked with something though, it's kinda weak on its own.
Bottom line: bloat is IMO, diet dependent, "wet" and "dry" terms are overrated
6) SD followed by Test Prop BULK
Dose:
Superdrol 10/20/20/30
Then 4 weeks off while running test E that turned out to be bunk... no PCT for superdrol
Then Test prop 100mg ED for 6 weeks
Gains:
SD: 220 10% -> 240 14%
Test Prop: 235 14% -> 235 13%
Conclusions:
Blew up on the Superdrol, i learned that it isn't so much of a carb monster as I had been led to believe, all my extra carbs just made me really fat. Gains were great on SD though, got way strong.
Learned that Test doesn't do much on its own, i was at 235 eating my ass off and didn't gain any weight, looking at the pictures it seems i might have dropped about 1% bodyfat though. I made very minimal strength increases on the test prop.
Bottom line: Test is a good base but cannot provide gains on nearly the same scale as the potent orals. Test needs to be run for a long time too! Superdrol is not such a carb monster, that notion is IMO overrated
7) SD pulse bridged into Tren bridged into SD/PP with Test Prop and T3 base
Dose:
Test prop 75mg ed for 8 weeks
T3 up to 75mcg and back down weeks 3-8
Tren 90/90/120/120 weeks 3-6
SD 10/20/20 weeks 6-8, also pulsed 10mg 4x a week for weeks 1-3
Phera 20/30 weeks 7-8
Gains:
211 11% -> 213 8% (after PCT I am now about 212 8.5%)
Conclusions:
SD pulse @ 10mg works, i felt the effects right away and looked more jacked by the 5th workout.
Test prop is once again, weak
T3 is an excellent addition to any cut/recomp cycle, pretty much no sides other than slightly increased sweating, very easy to adjust the dose so that weight loss is at the right level
Tren - dead libido and gyno outweight the pretty good gains in strength and vascularity
Phera/SD stack at the end: Most awesome feeling ever, EVER period, this stack is sick, i got no sides and was stronger/harder/leaner everyday.
Indepth conclusions: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/132821-recomp-cycle-results.html
Cycles 1/2/5 amounted to almost nothing because they weren't run aggressively enough
Cycle 3 was a cut cycle with some of the best progress, even though the main compound Epi doesn't give me weight or strength gains, i guess it may have helped me at least preserve muscle while on clen
Cycles 4/6 provided a good few solid pounds to my frame, THANK YOU Superdrol
Cycle 7 has been the most beneficial to me of them all, as I am solidly sub 10% but still relatively "big" looking. Also this cycle provided the most strength gains that I have ever kept.
Grand total from all my cycles I have gained 7 pounds of LBM and nearly cut my bodyfat in half. It seems to me that my cycle gains are much lower than what I usually see on the forums. I see people left and right gain 15 pounds while losing bodyfat. Or actually keeping 15+ lean pounds on a cycle. I don't know if you guys are cycling too early or what but I have never made any gains like this at all, and I wonder why more people posting such ridiculous gains aren't absolute ****ing giants by now.
I have a lot of cycle experience built up over the last few years!! I am trying to share this with everyone so that people can learn.
I am really looking forward to the cycle experiences everyone else can contribute. PLEASE keep the thread a good read and don't post garbage.... If you're not going to take the time to make your synopsis accurate and useful then DONT POST.
Contribute what you can to the database, so that we can reference it and show people what to expect out of cycles. Reading through this thread should provide a wealth of information to ALL users.
Please... I'd like to avoid dumbass questions and offtopic bull****, let's try to keep the thread a clean, concentrated source of information.
Go to quote and then copy and paste one of my entries to get the form right, and replace everything
1) Halodrol/Megazol RECOMP
Dose:
Halodrol 50/50/50/50, Megazol 00/00/00/150/200/250
Gains:
220 15% -> 220 15%
Conclusions:
Needed to dose much higher on both compounds, only ran 1 bottle of each and they barely had any effect on me. Learned that I don't respond very strongly. Also learned that steroids have no leaning out effect on me. I should have done more cardio instead of relying on them to take some fat off. Bottom line: dose higher
2) Phera Plex BULK
Dose:
Phera 30mg for 24 days
Gains:
240 18% -> 250 18% (wound up around 240 17% after PCT)
Conclusions:
Gains from short oral cycles are hard to keep, the faster they come the faster they go, i kept very little from the phera, I think it needs to be run heavier and longer than i did. Bottom line: need to run orals longer to keep gains
3) Epi Pulse with Clen CUT
Dose:
3x a week pulse 30/30/40/40/40/40/50/50
Clen 2 on 2 off the entire time
Gains:
~235 17% -> 217 12%
Conclusions:
Pulsing works, felt pumped even on off days, shutdown was negligible, no sides except for BP headaches which now I can attribute more to the clen than the Epi
Bottom line: Epi/Clen works great for a cut
4) Epi->Superdrol Bridge BULK
Dose:
Epi: 30/30/40/40/00/00/00
SD: 00/00/00/10/20/20/30
Gains:
206 10% to 224 11% (ended up 220 11-12%% after PCT)
Conclusions:
My gains didn't even begin until I got on Superdrol. So i learned that Epi really doesn't work for weight gains or strength gains for me. It did provide good vascularity and better pumps. But all the gains on this cycle came from Superdrol, sometimes I forget that this cycle started with an Epi cycle.
I found the gains from Superdrol to be insanely fast and awesome, and I also found them difficult to keep, i watched the weight drop off me during PCT even as I ate enough to increase my bodyfat slightly. I got stupid strong on cycle and most of that evaporated post cycle too.
I concluded that Superdrol needs to be bridged into something else run longer so that your body can get used to the gains and keep more of them.
Bottom line: SD kicks ass and Epi doesn't work well for me. SD needs to be bridged into something else to solidify the gains so you can actually keep them.
5) Phera RECOMP
Dose:
40/40/50/50
Gains:
220 ~12% to 220 10%, maybe 10.5%
Conclusions:
Found out that while Phera works for me it isn't particularly strong, i made very minor strength increases (about 10 pounds) and lost enough bodyfat to look a little more cut up.
Learned that phera can be used in a recomp, it had me looking hard and vascular, not bloated at all.
Phera needs to be stacked with something though, it's kinda weak on its own.
Bottom line: bloat is IMO, diet dependent, "wet" and "dry" terms are overrated
6) SD followed by Test Prop BULK
Dose:
Superdrol 10/20/20/30
Then 4 weeks off while running test E that turned out to be bunk... no PCT for superdrol
Then Test prop 100mg ED for 6 weeks
Gains:
SD: 220 10% -> 240 14%
Test Prop: 235 14% -> 235 13%
Conclusions:
Blew up on the Superdrol, i learned that it isn't so much of a carb monster as I had been led to believe, all my extra carbs just made me really fat. Gains were great on SD though, got way strong.
Learned that Test doesn't do much on its own, i was at 235 eating my ass off and didn't gain any weight, looking at the pictures it seems i might have dropped about 1% bodyfat though. I made very minimal strength increases on the test prop.
Bottom line: Test is a good base but cannot provide gains on nearly the same scale as the potent orals. Test needs to be run for a long time too! Superdrol is not such a carb monster, that notion is IMO overrated
7) SD pulse bridged into Tren bridged into SD/PP with Test Prop and T3 base
Dose:
Test prop 75mg ed for 8 weeks
T3 up to 75mcg and back down weeks 3-8
Tren 90/90/120/120 weeks 3-6
SD 10/20/20 weeks 6-8, also pulsed 10mg 4x a week for weeks 1-3
Phera 20/30 weeks 7-8
Gains:
211 11% -> 213 8% (after PCT I am now about 212 8.5%)
Conclusions:
SD pulse @ 10mg works, i felt the effects right away and looked more jacked by the 5th workout.
Test prop is once again, weak
T3 is an excellent addition to any cut/recomp cycle, pretty much no sides other than slightly increased sweating, very easy to adjust the dose so that weight loss is at the right level
Tren - dead libido and gyno outweight the pretty good gains in strength and vascularity
Phera/SD stack at the end: Most awesome feeling ever, EVER period, this stack is sick, i got no sides and was stronger/harder/leaner everyday.
Indepth conclusions: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/132821-recomp-cycle-results.html
Cycles 1/2/5 amounted to almost nothing because they weren't run aggressively enough
Cycle 3 was a cut cycle with some of the best progress, even though the main compound Epi doesn't give me weight or strength gains, i guess it may have helped me at least preserve muscle while on clen
Cycles 4/6 provided a good few solid pounds to my frame, THANK YOU Superdrol
Cycle 7 has been the most beneficial to me of them all, as I am solidly sub 10% but still relatively "big" looking. Also this cycle provided the most strength gains that I have ever kept.
Grand total from all my cycles I have gained 7 pounds of LBM and nearly cut my bodyfat in half. It seems to me that my cycle gains are much lower than what I usually see on the forums. I see people left and right gain 15 pounds while losing bodyfat. Or actually keeping 15+ lean pounds on a cycle. I don't know if you guys are cycling too early or what but I have never made any gains like this at all, and I wonder why more people posting such ridiculous gains aren't absolute ****ing giants by now.
I have a lot of cycle experience built up over the last few years!! I am trying to share this with everyone so that people can learn.
I am really looking forward to the cycle experiences everyone else can contribute. PLEASE keep the thread a good read and don't post garbage.... If you're not going to take the time to make your synopsis accurate and useful then DONT POST.
