Currently taking DHEA & DAA, am I missing something?

[Rob94hawk]

Should I add something to this stack of DHEA & DAA? Been running & lifting and after a week I already feel great!

Or should I just leave well enough alone? Thanks

 

[kelvarnsen]

I wouldn't use DAA on a regular basis unless you were completely shut down post cycle based on current research.

 

[The Express 42]

Drop the DAA, I would add in something like M test for a boost

 

[john.patterson]

Should I add something to this stack of DHEA & DAA? Been running & lifting and after a week I already feel great

I would also suggest dropping the DAA. What are your goals for using these products? I'm assuming you're looking for a natural test booster since these are both common ingredients for that goal.

Have you looked into any all-in-one products? There are a few great options including Alphamax, K1ngsblood, and M-Test that might be worth looking into. Alphamax contains DHAA with many other studied ingredients for increasing natural test. It also contains an estrogen/cortisol control formula that can help keep your body in balance. These all-in-one options are usually a better option for your budget too

 

[LeanEngineer]

Agreed with the others. Drop the DAA and add in a natty product like alphamax xt or viron or something along those lines rather than daa

 

[WarEeyore]

I've been out of the game for about 4 years and that's back when DAA was kinda up and coming.

Can someone briefly aware me on what transpired?

 

[kisaj]

Nothing, it is still about as useless as it was then.

 

[WarEeyore]

Nothing, it is still about as useless as it was then.

That's funny. I remember it being in just about every product/company lineup with a lot of favorable reviews. I never used it but I figured some research came out or something.

 

[cheftepesh1]

I would look at something with extras for test.

Rise and swell from mind and muscle

Dermicrime or sustain alpha by iconic formulations

Testurrection by Mr Supps

 

[thebigt]

I would look at something with extras for test.

Rise and swell from mind and muscle

Dermicrime or sustain alpha by iconic formulations

Testurrection by Mr Supps

DERMACRINE and SUSTAIN ALPHA....would be a kickass combo!!!

 

[muscleupcrohn]

That's funny. I remember it being in just about every product/company lineup with a lot of favorable reviews. I never used it but I figured some research came out or something.

CEE used to be popular, but we now know it's useless. DAA may still be effective for short-term use for people with low testosterone levels, but for people looking for some boost to normal levels, or performance benefits, I'd look elsewhere.

Twenty-four males, with a minimum of two years' experience in resistance training, (age, 24.5 ± 3.2 y; training experience, 3.4 ± 1.4 y; height, 178.5 ± 6.5 cm; weight, 84.7 ± 7.2 kg; bench press 1-RM, 105.3 ± 15.2 kg) were randomised into one of three groups: 6 g.d(-1) plain flour (D0); 3 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D3); and 6 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D6). Participants performed a two-week washout period, training four days per week. This continued through the experimental period (14 days), with participants consuming the supplement in the morning. Serum was analysed for levels of testosterone, estradiol, sex hormone binding globulin, albumin and free testosterone was determined by calculation.

D-aspartic acid supplementation revealed no main effect for group in: estradiol; sex-hormone-binding-globulin; and albumin. Total testosterone was significantly reduced in D6 (P = 0.03). Analysis of free testosterone showed that D6 was significantly reduced as compared to D0 (P = 0.005), but not significantly different to D3. Analysis did not reveal any significant differences between D3 and D0. No significant correlation between initial total testosterone levels and responsiveness to d-aspartic acid was observed (r = 0.10, P = 0.70).

The present study demonstrated that a daily dose of six grams of d-aspartic acid decreased levels of total testosterone and free testosterone (D6), without any concurrent change in other hormones measured. Three grams of d-aspartic acid had no significant effect on either testosterone markers. It is currently unknown what effect this reduction in testosterone will have on strength and hypertrophy gains.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844073

Resistance-trained men resistance trained 4 times/wk for 28 days while orally ingesting either 3 g of placebo or 3 g of D-ASP. Data were analyzed with 2 × 2 analysis of variance (P < .05).

The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738

The first study I referenced regarding DAA was published recently (2015), and used subjects with at least 2 years experience resistance training, and the study also had subjects train 4-days a week. If you look at the full text (which I put a link to below), you'll see that both 3g and 6g DAA REDUCED free testosterone relative to no DAA (although the decrease was only significant in the 6g group):

 

[mw1]

I personally always run Eradicate E or Inhibit E with DAA

 

[Nac]

Alphamax contains DHEA

You sure?

 

[rowz4broz]

You sure?

yeah i didnt think so

pretty sure it has DHAA tho

 

[john.patterson]

yeah i didnt think so

pretty sure it has DHAA tho

DHAA, Dehydroabietic Acid, my mistake. Sorry about that. Edited

 

[thebigt]

DHAA, Dehydroabietic Acid, my mistake. Sorry about that. Edited

GOOD MAN!!!

 

[JAS51]

I've been out of the game for about 4 years and that's back when DAA was kinda up and coming.

Can someone briefly aware me on what transpired?

What are you looking for in a test booster? I am 51 and I have used many natty test boosters for the boost in libido, better sleep and over all sense of well being. I have used all the following and will use again.

In no order with reviews for you to research

Diesel Test Hardcore http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/210697-diesel-test-hardcore.html
Black Lion Research Viron http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/252460-new-product-viron.html
M Test http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/289772-cel-m-test.html
AlphaMax http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html
Diesel Test Pro-Cycle http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html

Sustain Alpha is great as well http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/271392-sustain-alpha.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/268379-bps-sustain-alpha.html

Sustain Alpha is no longer made by BPS. It is now made by Iconic Formulations.You can use thebigt 's code THEBIGT to save 25% of all products. www.iconicformulations.com

 

[thebigt]

What are you looking for in a test booster? I am 51 and I have used many natty test boosters for the boost in libido, better sleep and over all sense of well being. I have used all the following and will use again.

In no order with reviews for you to research

Diesel Test Hardcore http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/210697-diesel-test-hardcore.html
Black Lion Research Viron http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/252460-new-product-viron.html
M Test http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/289772-cel-m-test.html
AlphaMax http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html
Diesel Test Pro-Cycle http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html

Sustain Alpha is great as well http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/271392-sustain-alpha.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/268379-bps-sustain-alpha.html

thanks for the sustain shout out...but it is no longer made by bps, now it can be purchased from iconic formulations...presale sold out, but more is coming soon....use my code THEBIGT to save 25% of all products.

 

[JAS51]

thanks for the sustain shout out...but it is no longer made by bps, now it can be purchased from iconic formulations...presale sold out, but more is coming soon....use my code THEBIGT to save 25% of all products.

I just noticed it says BPS:eek5:

 

[thebigt]

I just noticed it says BPS:eek5:

lol...no biggie!!!

 

[thebigt]

What are you looking for in a test booster? I am 51 and I have used many natty test boosters for the boost in libido, better sleep and over all sense of well being. I have used all the following and will use again.

In no order with reviews for you to research

Diesel Test Hardcore http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/210697-diesel-test-hardcore.html
Black Lion Research Viron http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/252460-new-product-viron.html
M Test http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/289772-cel-m-test.html
AlphaMax http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html
Diesel Test Pro-Cycle http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/238751-alphamax-120-caps.html

Sustain Alpha is great as well http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/271392-sustain-alpha.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/268379-bps-sustain-alpha.html

Sustain Alpha is no longer made by BPS. It is now made by Iconic Formulations.You can use
thanks man, really appreciate that!!!">thebigt's code [B]THEBIGT[/B] to save 25% of all products. [url]https://iconicformulations.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

thanks man, really appreciate that!!!

 

[cheftepesh1]

thanks for the sustain shout out...but it is no longer made by bps, now it can be purchased from iconic formulations...presale sold out, but more is coming soon....use my code THEBIGT to save 25% of all products.

Thank you for the mention

 

[Toff]

DERMACRINE and SUSTAIN ALPHA....would be a kickass combo!!!

except it wouldnt.

Too much Trans-Resveratrol, no libido.

 

[thebigt]

except it wouldnt.

Too much Trans-Resveratrol, no libido.

lol...I don't know where you head that....before PA added t-r to 6oxo he claimed to be eating the stuff by the gram.

 

[cheftepesh1]

lol...I don't know where you head that....before PA added t-r to 6oxo he claimed to be eating the stuff by the gram.

Never had that kind of issue with trans-resveratrol.

 

[thebigt]

Never had that kind of issue with trans-resveratrol.

not sure but I believe PA brought trans-resveratrol to the market[at least I had never heard of it before then]...he was using pretty massive amounts and loving it!!!

 

[Ricky10]

not sure but I believe PA brought trans-resveratrol to the market[at least I had never heard of it before then]...he was using pretty massive amounts and loving it!!!

That would be interesting to mega-dose trans-resveratrol...particularly transdermal. I have never taken a product containing trans-resverartrol I didn’t like.

 

[thebigt]

That would be interesting to mega-dose trans-resveratrol...particularly transdermal. I have never taken a product containing trans-resverartrol I didn’t like.

time to stock up on sustain, lol!!!

 

[cheftepesh1]

That would be interesting to mega-dose trans-resveratrol...particularly transdermal. I have never taken a product containing trans-resverartrol I didn’t like.

This sounds like an interesting concept.

 

[nnnnnn]

Please save your money and don't purchase DHEA. It has no significant effect on lean body mass for men, it's more effective on women. DHEA supplementation increases DHEA-S levels in the body, it doesn't actually really convert to testosterone in men. So why waste your time with it. Many studies have repeated this.

 

[EricMM]

You need the right form of DAA. This article explains

http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/d-aspartic-acid-boost-testosterone/

 

[EricMM]

As for the DHEA, it works with an aromatase inhibitor. Not too many good ones on the market. Novedex XT if you can find it.

 

[thebigt]

transdermal dhea/preg far more effective than oral in my case at least....

 

[thebigt]

As for the DHEA, it works with an aromatase inhibitor. Not too many good ones on the market. Novedex XT if you can find it.

dermacrine has both dhea/preg and also a aromatase inhibitor!!!

it's easy to find...:cheers:

 

[kisaj]

Please save your money and don't purchase DHEA. It has no significant effect on lean body mass for men, it's more effective on women. DHEA supplementation increases DHEA-S levels in the body, it doesn't actually really convert to testosterone in men. So why waste your time with it. Many studies have repeated this.

DHEA provides numerous benefits and most men would not take DHEA for test increase.

 

[Toff]

personal experience.. then googling others get the same.

he was probably supported by other things!