Cultural Changes Around the Globe

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Quite a thought provoking video. I'll have to research this stuff a little further.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU"]YouTube - Muslim Demographics[/ame]
 
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Only because every single family has 1,000 kids. I don't mind if this happens, just don't press religion on me.
 

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Only because every single family has 1,000 kids. I don't mind if this happens, just don't press religion on me.
I think that's what it's getting at. It's going to be inevitable. At that growth rate, these countries will be ran by an Islamic government...You're kind of missing the whole purpose of the video. The cultural change will lead to an overtaking of the entire population. Look at what was said about Germany.
 
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I think that's what it's getting at. It's going to be inevitable. At that growth rate, these countries will be ran by an Islamic government...You're kind of missing the whole purpose of the video. The cultural change will lead to an overtaking of the entire population. Look at what was said about Germany.
No, I understood the video. Muslim population is taking over like cockroaches and rats. The worlds fertility rate is below sustainable, while Muslim fertility is 4 times what is needed. I don't mind other religions, but if it's such a big deal, then people need to start ****ing w/o condoms much more.
 
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I believe another reason this is happening is because European and American culture in general has gone either agnostic or atheist. Liberals in Europe (and here as well) are very open and accepting of immigrants including those with traditional Islamic beliefs. However they view their own countrymen who have faith in their Christian roots in a negative light, as though as if they are backward and not with the times.

I lived in Spain in the 1980's and I remember seeing very few immigrants and Spanish culture was prominent. I went back in 2000 and was blown away at how different it was, and how much Spanish traditional culture has declined. My Grandfather says Spain is no longer for Spaniards and that the same can be said for the Spanish government. I went to London about 5 years ago and wondered where all the English went, but they don't seem to mind or notice.

I have a hard time believing that the same thing that is happening in Europe could happen here though.
 
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The Bible straight said false doctrines will become the norm near the end times.

Its kinda because countries like America gave into stupid athiest cries, and cries from other religions about everything Christian being offensive.... This is the result of a country that decides to piss out its culture to kiss the butts of every little cry baby....stupid Emos....
 

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False doctrines merely means false teachings of OUR faith (TD Jakes, Joel Osteen, and a plethora of others in the emergent church); but yes, I understand what you're saying, and you're right...

Evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.
 

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It's funny, you know; nearly all Muslims, especially the devout, will vote Republican, yet they all embrace Obama and it's so easy to see why; he'll do anything to appease the masses, and he will do nothing to stop them from dominating our American culture.
 
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I really dont think this is an Obama issue (although IC I know you want Palin in '12 so badly). It is a difference in culture issue. The major focus here is that Islam is growing exponentially and is the fastest growing religion. That is perfectly fine. However, the problem arises when that growth is continued in the fanantical sections. That would be problematic for any fanatical religion, be it Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and yes there are fanatics in all of them.
 
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This is the fault of our gut-less governments that allowed an excessive amount of immigration. The stats about Russia and Germany are pretty damn scary.

Also, I think we're becoming so driven with our personal goals that raising a family is not a big priority anymore.
 

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I really dont think this is an Obama issue (although IC I know you want Palin in '12 so badly).
I'll take Huckabee over Palin any day, but I most definitely don't dislike her. I voted for her, not McCain.

It is a difference in culture issue. The major focus here is that Islam is growing exponentially and is the fastest growing religion. That is perfectly fine. However, the problem arises when that growth is continued in the fanantical sections. That would be problematic for any fanatical religion, be it Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and yes there are fanatics in all of them.
What you fail to realize is that in Islam, the term fanatic and fundamentalist are interchangeable. There is no reason to fear people who simply call themselves Muslim if they don't live by the Qur'an; it's the ones that do that you need to fear.

Barack Obama's apostate status is actually what Muslims would deem punishable by death, yet the "fanatics" you speak of embrace him because he allows them to pursue their own agenda. These extremist groups don't give a crap if they can get something out of it. Don't you find that a little odd?...Obama is by no means the reason for all of this, but he and the far left that run the country allow it to continue.

I strongly believe you will alter your opinion on all of this in years to come.
 
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I'll take Huckabee over Palin any day, but I most definitely don't dislike her. I voted for her, not McCain.



What you fail to realize is that in Islam, the term fanatic and fundamentalist are interchangeable. There is no reason to fear people who simply call themselves Muslim if they don't live by the Qur'an; it's the ones that do that you need to fear.

Barack Obama's apostate status is actually what Muslims would deem punishable by death, yet the "fanatics" you speak of embrace him because he allows them to pursue their own agenda. These extremist groups don't give a crap if they can get something out of it. Don't you find that a little odd?...Obama is by no means the reason for all of this, but he and the far left that run the country allow it to continue.

I strongly believe you will alter your opinion on all of this in years to come.
I am sorry man , dont get me twisted but there is a lot of ignorance in ur post! as the obama satus should be e killed in islam, or frea ppl who live by Quraan ? so u sayin i should be feared!

juss to fix teh issue u have with muslims livin around u, actually in islam , muslims shouldnt live in non muslims countrie only on specific situations as refugees " threatened by death " , and ion no way for economical purposes !

dont forget that all of the muslim countries got colonized by the west in 19th century , for decades and that does ties links, many european countries used ex colonies hand workers in the 60s so the topic isnt that simple.

btw many muslims faught in ww1 ww2 , to free europe against nazis , both my grand fathers did !
 
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I'll take Huckabee over Palin any day, but I most definitely don't dislike her. I voted for her, not McCain.



What you fail to realize is that in Islam, the term fanatic and fundamentalist are interchangeable. There is no reason to fear people who simply call themselves Muslim if they don't live by the Qur'an; it's the ones that do that you need to fear.

Barack Obama's apostate status is actually what Muslims would deem punishable by death, yet the "fanatics" you speak of embrace him because he allows them to pursue their own agenda. These extremist groups don't give a crap if they can get something out of it. Don't you find that a little odd?...Obama is by no means the reason for all of this, but he and the far left that run the country allow it to continue.

I strongly believe you will alter your opinion on all of this in years to come.
I am sorry man , dont get me twisted but there is a lot of ignorance in ur post! as the obama satus should be e killed in islam, or frea ppl who live by Quraan ? so u sayin i should be feared!

juss to fix teh issue u have with muslims livin around u, actually in islam , muslims shouldnt live in non muslims countrie only on specific situations as refugees " threatened by death " , and ion no way for economical purposes !

dont forget that all of the muslim countries got colonized by the west in 19th century , for decades and that does ties links, many european countries used ex colonies hand workers in the 60s so the topic isnt that simple.

btw many muslims faught in ww1 ww2 , to free europe against nazis , both my grand fathers did !
 

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No offense to any progressive Muslims, but muslims and their lack of cultural assimilation in Western countries is a huge reason to why western countries are now becoming close minded and blaming immigrants as a whole. I'm afraid to say, it's a major reason to why there's so much xenophobia towards multi-culturalism. Having religious beliefs is one thing but disregard for other people's beliefs is a whole different thing. None the less, America seems to be multiculturalism at its worst, but that's a different story.

And Irish Canon, fanatic muslims don't embrace Obama. In fact they hate him. I've heard several speeches of extremists calling Obama a traitor of his father and to Islam, due to his policies and his stance on Iran / Afghanistan. In terms of immigration, Obama has tightened it(immigration in general) significantly. For example, several thousand indians who were working skilled / semi-skilled computer jobs have now been sent back to India. And those jobs are being re-appropriated to Americans whom companies weren't employing initially (due to finding cheaper Indian labour).

My point being, although Obama is left wing (and thank god he is... left wing is a privilege), he evidently is aware of all those issues and addresses them. Suppose his first term has passed and religious extremists have got worse, feminists have got worse and like wise to other similar groups which augment the culture badly, then the right wing needs to be brought back.
 
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It is what it is, be happy, have sex, live love and die. People are people who cares what color they are.
 

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And Irish Canon, fanatic muslims don't embrace Obama. In fact they hate him. I've heard several speeches of extremists calling Obama a traitor of his father and to Islam, due to his policies and his stance on Iran / Afghanistan. In terms of immigration, Obama has tightened it(immigration in general) significantly. For example, several thousand indians who were working skilled / semi-skilled computer jobs have now been sent back to India. And those jobs are being re-appropriated to Americans whom companies weren't employing initially (due to finding cheaper Indian labour).
This really shows how little you know. I gave the clear-cut example of Hamas embracing him, which they have.

Secondly, Obama has severely loosened immigration, and he's ruining our national security because of it.

Third, those companies don't owe Americans anything. The democrats tax the hell out of the corporations which leaves them no choice but to send jobs overseas. Have you forgotten the point of owning a business is to create a profit, not provide jobs?
 
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What you fail to realize is that in Islam, the term fanatic and fundamentalist are interchangeable. There is no reason to fear people who simply call themselves Muslim if they don't live by the Qur'an; it's the ones that do that you need to fear.
Have you read the Qu'ran?
 
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This really shows how little you know. I gave the clear-cut example of Hamas embracing him, which they have.

Secondly, Obama has severely loosened immigration, and he's ruining our national security because of it.

Third, those companies don't owe Americans anything. The democrats tax the hell out of the corporations which leaves them no choice but to send jobs overseas. Have you forgotten the point of owning a business is to create a profit, not provide jobs?
Left , right terrorists , capitalists, communists all the same , one team check teh leaders u ll find that all of them are high ranked masons, from babylon ; rommans, pharoah , templars , pharasis , zionist all playin us, thats what they call the NWO or the anitchrist order , we ppl gettin traped enslaved by our selfishnes all the the temptations ! obama is juss a puppet hope u really dont believe that he truly rules!
 
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I've read a good deal of it. Yes.
Actually u didnt really read it un less u speak fluent arabic ! , cuz translation of Quraan isnt Qraan ! , Quraan is one unique perfect arabic since 1400 yrs!

anyway, what did u find so scary in there? since u believe if sumone follows it should be feared!
did u know that there is a precise methodology to understand the verses ?

every verse came at a special events ? , if u dont know that noway u can get to undertand it as it is teh case of most muslims teh result we got deviated sects wich interpret it in away that our selves desires as a result u got shia , takffirs aka terrorist as Bushladen and many they breain wash teh youth since tehy ignorant about islam alal taht been manipulated by those Antichrist worshippers .
 

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This really shows how little you know. I gave the clear-cut example of Hamas embracing him, which they have.

Secondly, Obama has severely loosened immigration, and he's ruining our national security because of it.

Third, those companies don't owe Americans anything. The democrats tax the hell out of the corporations which leaves them no choice but to send jobs overseas. Have you forgotten the point of owning a business is to create a profit, not provide jobs?
Well my media is telling me something clearly different to yours.

Maybe Hamas embraced him like you pointed out. But from what i've seen, several muslim groups have called Obama a traitor based on his ties with AIPAC and support for Israel amongst other things.

And I wasn't referring to outsourcing (although that is a separate concern). I was referring to immigrants on working visas. During Bush's time, several hundreds of companies were employing international people rather than local Americans. The reason for this was as you pointed out, creating a profit for the company. That's fine (as the whole objective of a company is usually profit), except it was coming to the point where there was a large amount of skilled American labour who were unemployed because companies were exploiting working visas in order to cost cut.

But now several forms of working visas have been tightened. There was a news report on it couple months ago saying that 50 000 or so indians in the IT industry will have to return so the jobs can be given to Americans. Therefore it seems to me like he's tightened immigration. At least in that area of working visas.
 
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Evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.
You are far more dead on than you realize, though I doubt it is what you think it is.

/look at those who go around using the words good and evil.
 

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Well my media is telling me something clearly different to yours.

Maybe Hamas embraced him like you pointed out. But from what i've seen, several muslim groups have called Obama a traitor based on his ties with AIPAC and support for Israel amongst other things.

And I wasn't referring to outsourcing (although that is a separate concern). I was referring to immigrants on working visas. During Bush's time, several hundreds of companies were employing international people rather than local Americans. The reason for this was as you pointed out, creating a profit for the company. That's fine (as the whole objective of a company is usually profit), except it was coming to the point where there was a large amount of skilled American labour who were unemployed because companies were exploiting working visas in order to cost cut.

But now several forms of working visas have been tightened. There was a news report on it couple months ago saying that 50 000 or so indians in the IT industry will have to return so the jobs can be given to Americans. Therefore it seems to me like he's tightened immigration. At least in that area of working visas.
The last thing Obama is doing is supporting Israel.

Now, I don't doubt Muslim groups have called him a traitor, but from what I've seen, the groups that pose a threat to the United States and Israel have not.

Do you have links to some articles that I can read?

Bush is apparently the most popular United States president of all time over in India. His administration really helped out the economy over there. I don't doubt Obama believes what he's doing is right, but he's not helping anyone. The tax rates that these US corporations will have to pay will run them into the ground - everything will be passed on to the consumer who will soon not be able to afford the products and it's just going to be one nasty spiral.

There is really hardly any good news economical for the US, for now or in the near future. I don't see anything turning around. - and with this new credit card bill that was passed...Oy.
 

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You are far more dead on than you realize, though I doubt it is what you think it is.

/look at those who go around using the words good and evil.
Are you blaming Christianity or religion in general?
 
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Irish y u dont wana asnwer me? r u that afraid that even online u cnat answer me!
com on u dont back any of u r claims on islam, it does really take u r credibility out.
i am the one of what u call fundamentalist and should be feared so y dont u ask me and try understand whats goin with islam muslims! , if u do really wanna understand , or juss keep playin the anttichrist game and get traped by the false prophets comin!
 
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Are you blaming Christianity or religion in general?
Those who use those words seldom use them in correct perspecitve...the mindset transcends singluar religions, but they all have much in common.
 

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Irish y u dont wana asnwer me? r u that afraid that even online u cnat answer me!
com on u dont back any of u r claims on islam, it does really take u r credibility out.
i am the one of what u call fundamentalist and should be feared so y dont u ask me and try understand whats goin with islam muslims! , if u do really wanna understand , or juss keep playin the anttichrist game and get traped by the false prophets comin!
Ya, or maybe I've been at work all day.

My day doesn't revolve around discussions on AM. It's little concern of mine. If I feel like chatting I will. If not, then I won't.

Secondly, your posts give me headaches. It's like reading a word jumble.
 
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Ya, or maybe I've been at work all day.

My day doesn't revolve around discussions on AM. It's little concern of mine. If I feel like chatting I will. If not, then I won't.

Secondly, your posts give me headaches. It's like reading a word jumble.
u gettin me wrong here , i aint here to fight juss tried to enlight sum issues misunderstanding about islam as a muslim ,born raised still livin in muslim country i thought i could help , i c now i was wrong u have made ya mind up already about !.

Also English aint my 1st language , juss the 3rd sorry fo that and fo not puttin enough effort on punctuation and spelling ,my English teacher was 2pac learnt most of it from teh streets of london!
 

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