oufinny
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I like this a lot, and Trinitine that Omega makes is excellent as well, the muscle fullness is there and it gives a much more dry appearance than mono ever did.
Creatine Nitrate vs. Kre-Alkalyn - let's squash it here!
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I like this a lot, and Trinitine that Omega makes is excellent as well, the muscle fullness is there and it gives a much more dry appearance than mono ever did.
Wheyfocused
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This is an odd poll. Kre-Alk is mostly mono.
Mono is absorbed just fine.
A better poll would be CN vs MCC vs Orotate vs Trinitine
Mono is absorbed just fine.
A better poll would be CN vs MCC vs Orotate vs Trinitine
Wheyfocused
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Probably because 10g of mono isnt any better than 5g of mono, but adds a much larger possibility for sides
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oufinny
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I am hoping that I am getting some CN soon to try, I ran Ultima which has a full dose of trinitine in it and I had great results. I hear orotate is excellent as well. Any of them used consistently should yield excellent results.
Wheyfocused
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Personal experience is that CN works the same as mono in every respect except for pump
Good idea is to try it and see how it affects you
StackedCop
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Glad to hear you finally tried some
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VolcomX311
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In my personal experience, Orotine (Magnesium Orotate + Creatine) doesn't EVEN compare to Creatine Nitrate, but that's just my own experience. I'm still currently in possession of both (and a stash of Mono).
StackedCop
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Yea, I will say...the pumps are nice
The pumps were so intense today it ruined my leg workout lol
tnubs
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so u like CN more? how did u like the orotine? i was looking at that a while back but decided to save my $
VolcomX311
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Going from Mono to Orotine, I experienced some superior performance, then I went from Orotine to Creatine Nitrate and felt a greater margin of enhanced performance. When I finished my bottle of Creatine Nitrate I went back to my bottle of Orotine and that's when I felt the biggest difference. My performacne seemed to fall off quite noticeably. In my experience it was night & day, so I purchased another bottle of Creatine Nitrate.
bullseyebill
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Question:
How does Magnesium Creatine Chelate work, or supposedly work?
I know Kre-alk is claimed to help prevent the conversion to creatinine by balancing out the pH, although I dont see how a few pills can even come close to battling stomach acid.
I am currently taking Kre-Alk and i am definitely seeing results in size compared to no creatine supplementation.
Would it be wise to switch over to MCC? Im just confused how it delievers differently than mono / KA.
How does Magnesium Creatine Chelate work, or supposedly work?
I know Kre-alk is claimed to help prevent the conversion to creatinine by balancing out the pH, although I dont see how a few pills can even come close to battling stomach acid.
I am currently taking Kre-Alk and i am definitely seeing results in size compared to no creatine supplementation.
Would it be wise to switch over to MCC? Im just confused how it delievers differently than mono / KA.
Wheyfocused
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Creatines don't really deliver for performance benefits technically any different than mono. (Added ingredients in creatine matrix formulas do have benefits, but those are unrelated to the creatine)
For instance Creatine in Creatine Nitrate works just the same as regular creatine mono, possibly with enhanced absorption (but this isnt relevant once at saturation anyway). Then you get the benefits of nitrates.
Chelated creatines such as MCC are not converted as much in the stomach as creatine mono. It passes through and is absorbed more in the intestines. This is beneficial for those that have GI issues with mono. MCC does not cause the GI issues associated with regular mono in certain individuals. For those that do not have GI issues from mono, this is irrelevant...but it does make a big difference for some.
On top of that, MCC does have the added bonus of electrolyte replacement with the bound magnesium
KA is ~99% mono with baking soda...meh. lol
bullseyebill
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Thank you, that clarifies a few things 
Although another issue i hear a lot is the "bloated look" where the consumer looks less cut due to water retention outside the muscles or something. Is this side effect more common with a certain type of creatine such as mono, or is about the same for every kind?
Although another issue i hear a lot is the "bloated look" where the consumer looks less cut due to water retention outside the muscles or something. Is this side effect more common with a certain type of creatine such as mono, or is about the same for every kind?
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Thank you, that clarifies a few things
Although another issue i hear a lot is the "bloated look" where the consumer looks less cut due to water retention outside the muscles or something. Is this side effect more common with a certain type of creatine such as mono, or is about the same for every kind?
That can happen with every kind if you use too much creatine
stick to 2.5-5g daily and you are fine.
JudgementDay
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Thank you, that clarifies a few things
Although another issue i hear a lot is the "bloated look" where the consumer looks less cut due to water retention outside the muscles or something. Is this side effect more common with a certain type of creatine such as mono, or is about the same for every kind?
Creatine mono often causes GI distress resulting in a bloated stomach.
Creatine Nitrate will not get you bloated, actually does the opposite and gives a No2 hardning effect, the solubility of creatine nitrate is by far greater then any other creatine so you don't have to worry about getting bloated on Creatine Nitrate!
oufinny
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Considering I am taking CN right now, I have to say the benefits come on faster and more pronounced than mono or MCC. I am about to start taking MCC (Omega Trinitine) on my off days and the CN on my lifting days, get the best of both. I have to say that I didn't think I would feel CN like I have, not getting insane pumps per se, but my endurance and strength gains are crazy for just a creatine. It is at least worth trying one bottle even if it is not that cheap.
Powercage
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I didnt say they wouldnt come "faster" at first. I said it was largely irrelevant as far as the creatine goes because once you are at saturation, speed does not make a difference
Any difference you feel between CN and Creatine Mono would be due to the benefits of Nitrates (unless you have absorption issues with mono), not due to any difference in creatine
For example, assuming you have no issues with Creatine Mono...you would most likely get the same benefits from taking Creatine Mono + Nitrated aminos (or a nitrated pre-workout). You would still be getting the nitrates in your system
bullseyebill
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Well CN sounds like its worth a try.
Could you guys name off a few good products that have CN? I'm not looking for a stack, preferably just pure CN in pill form.
Any one know any off the top of their head?
Could you guys name off a few good products that have CN? I'm not looking for a stack, preferably just pure CN in pill form.
Any one know any off the top of their head?
tnubs
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APS creatine nitrate is your best bet, there was a bulk creatine nitrate powder that was out for like 1 day, then vanished.
bullseyebill
New member
I just read about a creatine compound called Sodium Creatine Phosphate. Any one ever try it or know more about it?
oufinny
Well-known member
This is the best choice, stack it with Mesomorph as they compliment each other very well. Since I started my log I have to say I am very surprised with what just creatine has done for me on a consistent basis as I am taking it. CN may not be the cheapest but I believe it is worth the money to see how you respond to it considering so many people are having positive results with it.
Chequamegon
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Yes, this will have the same result as Kre-Alkalyn. Whether or not the buffering capacity of bicarbonate ions is actually effective is not so definite.
Never heard of it, but I'm not a big fan of any supplement that supplies sodium, especially one that uses dosing in the 3-5g range.