got any studies on long term effect?wife (who is breasfeeding as well) got her 2 in december (nurse) - zero sides except a slight headache the evening of dose 2
got my 2 in feb and had zero sides from either.
both of us got pfizer.
Mom, dad, sister, stepmom, 3 grandparents, 3 aunt/uncles have all gotten it as well and nobody had anything more than a slight "flu" type feeling the night of dose 2 (was about 50% of all the people I know who have gotten it). Not a single person with anything beyond the next day.
In total I know about 75 people who I am "close" to (work collegues, friends, immediate family, etc) and not a single complication or side beyond the day after dose 2 among them. Most about 60/40 pfizer/moderna and 1-2 who got j&j
haha if only it were that easy... Honestly though, theres nothing about any of the vaccines that it truly "brand new" either in regard to the MOA or the overall use/effects. The fact that it came out "so fast" was due to 2 key factors being 1) they've been working with other corona strains for years already and 2) when you pour 99% of your resources into one, focused project you almost always get faster results.got any studies on long term effect?
a few months ago my wife and i both tested positive for covid 19, although our symptoms were very, very mild i had just retired so we quarantined ourselves at our lake house for 2 weeks. now we are fully recovered and i am in training for my 1st 7k race....haha if only it were that easy... Honestly though, theres nothing about any of the vaccines that it truly "brand new" either in regard to the MOA or the overall use/effects. The fact that it came out "so fast" was due to 2 key factors being 1) they've been working with other corona strains for years already and 2) when you pour 99% of your resources into one, focused project you almost always get faster results.
I'm just a manufacturing guy but with a family full of medical professionals I tend to trust their opinions and they all were strongly in support of it. Even though the fatality rate is not as dramatic as something like ebola or a truly wicked virus, the complications and severity of the symptoms for so many is just too much to ignore and what it does in general to the healthcare system is more than they're built to handle.
For me, it's more a question of what seems more reasonable/realistic in a short timeframe: A) training up hundreds of thousands of new doctors, nurses, etc to combat the actual cases or B) creating a vaccine to slow the spread and limit severity.
Thank you!a few months ago my wife and i both tested positive for covid 19, although our symptoms were very, very mild i had just retired so we quarantined ourselves at our lake house for 2 weeks. now we are fully recovered and i am in training for my 1st 7k race....
my wife and i are choosing not to get the vaccine, but i hope every thing turns out well for your entire family especially your infant...btw-congrats on the baby!!!
did you read the article?We do not know enough from that example to draw conclusions:
1. What stage after the vaccine were they infected with Covid
2. Did they contract a variant
3. They tested positive and had no symptoms-this is the vaccine working as it explicitly states if contracted one does not suffer effects or is hospitalized.
really?I forget one more question, how long ago. 6 months is the expected duration. If Vacc. in Dec or Jan it is weak by now.
from what i read they don't know.....the whole vaccine thing is being guinea pigged on the human guinea pigs, imo.I read immunity via recovery is quite long term, a year and now,recently announced, a year plus and that from vaccines had not been tested beyond six months. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/how-long-does-the-covid-vaccine-last.html
we don't know about sums it up-eh?Walk back.? The link is not me walking back quote from link which is dated April 9, 2021
How Long Does Protection Last?
The CDC’s official position is “We don’t know,” and Gulick told Intelligencer, “We’re just starting to understand how long that immunity may last.” A piece of the answer came last week from Pfizer, which announced that antibodies triggered by the jab and the strong immunity they prompt persists for at least six months among vaccinated individuals — even against more contagious variants. New research also suggests that the protection the Moderna vaccine gives lasts for at least six months. That doesn’t mean immunity from these shots stops at six months, it’s how long volunteers in clinical trials of the vaccines have been followed. Gulick says some experts “would say it may last even longer, but we don’t have a good answer as of yet.”
“The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are shockingly good mimics of natural infection,” biologist and former Harvard professor William Haseltine told The Atlantic. “But it’s really important to stress the fact that these vaccines are likely to be temporary protection. A year or maybe two.”
Several factors may influence how much protection the vaccines provide and for how long, Chunhuei Chi, director of the Center for Global Health at Oregon State University, told the Washington Post. For instance, people who have a stronger immune response to a vaccine will produce more antibodies and memory cells — and therefore have stronger immunity, he said. But, he adds, there is not currently evidence to show that a stronger immune response will increase the duration of immunity. Another factor is whether new, more infectious variants crop up that could dampen the vaccine’s efficacy. “With my HIV patients with an immunocompromised system, I always warn them, ‘You got the vaccine, you’ll get immunity, but still be cautious and wear a face mask,’” Gulick said.
Will We Need Booster Shots?
Experts believe the coronavirus pandemic is likely to become endemic, meaning the virus will stick around in populations, potentially requiring booster shots to beef up immunity. “We need to plan that this is something we may need to maintain control over chronically,” Fauci said in November. “It may be something that becomes endemic, that we have to just be careful about.”
considering the vast majority of Americans have been given both vaccinations for only a few months it makes that number much more significant, imo.Agreed and saw this a.m. CDC reports at least 10,000 reinfected after vaccine as of end of April. Variants? antibodies weakening? nobody knows.
never used a sarm...Which will we see first:
Longterm sides from Sarms or the vax ?
That is your decision although I see it as a bad one. Did you have covid prior to the 1st dose that you are aware of? I wonder if you did and still had antibodies. That could explain why you reacted as you did from the 1st dose. The overwhelming majority of folks get nothing more than a little PIP from the 1st dose. The 2nd dose gave me a nagging headache for a couple days and the chills for about 6 hours the following morning.Gotta shot two days ago. Have had diarrhea, the chills, occasional vomiting, loss of appetite, red scrotum. Sex drive has gone away. 2nd shot comes when they pay me big $$$.