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IDEA HELD OFF UNTIL TOMORROW--Stay tuned and we will get it right....
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Please re -read the rules, I made some changes.
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ersatz
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I'd change the qualifications for determining the winner. Total number of views can easily be misleading, you're going to get people hitting refresh numerous times to artificially increase the number of views. In fact I can make a script if anyone wants that will refresh that page increasing view number by whatever amount you want. I'd say a better qualification would be the number of replies to to the thread but people will also just create false accounts.
Since you're giving away $2250 in free product why not just give out some free product for logs as most companies do? Get a number of logs going on bb.com and you'll see your products being carried by a number of online retailers. It's worked well for companies like controlled labs.
Since you're giving away $2250 in free product why not just give out some free product for logs as most companies do? Get a number of logs going on bb.com and you'll see your products being carried by a number of online retailers. It's worked well for companies like controlled labs.
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contest rules tomorrow.
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contest has changed, we must have atleast 12 contestants by October 3 for logs for contest to take place.
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CROWLER
Anabolic Innovations Owner
ersatz said:
It is called marketing and I really like the idea may use it for my business lol.
If you run a contest all 12 people will most likely have good results because they will be trying their VERY best because they want to win. You have no idea if it was because of the supplement or the diligence of the contestents in other parts of their workout and eating schedule
You give out some free stuff to guys and they have no where near the incentive to eat properly, get their rest and workout religiously.
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ersatz
Well-known member
The contest has obviously undergone several iterations since I've posted. Originally people would buy a USPLabs product and post at upto 4 boards. The person with the most views on their threads would be the winner.
Giving out free product to review may or may not reduce results. There would be more drive if you won something and thus better results but also more chance of someone lying. If I'm using a product it tends to motivate me more so that I'm not wasting the product.
I favor the free product giveaway for logs as it seems to create more hype around the product. Of course it can bite you in the ass if results aren't as expected, look at Melting Point and ActivaTe betas. People ask daily for the final version of the latter product and this is based off reports from users of the beta. BB.com has a large reader base so a dozen or so logs of Cissus and PowerFULL could do wonders to get the product carried by by more retailers.
USPLabs is a bit over the top with the thread titles here and this initally put me off to their products. The user reviews here of Cissus though convinced me to try it and to my surprise it lived up to hype. Word of mouth via these reviews is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising. Sure companies can claim that they've done extensive internal beta testing or fund studies but what ultimately sells the products are reviews from other users that people can associate with.
Giving out free product to review may or may not reduce results. There would be more drive if you won something and thus better results but also more chance of someone lying. If I'm using a product it tends to motivate me more so that I'm not wasting the product.
I favor the free product giveaway for logs as it seems to create more hype around the product. Of course it can bite you in the ass if results aren't as expected, look at Melting Point and ActivaTe betas. People ask daily for the final version of the latter product and this is based off reports from users of the beta. BB.com has a large reader base so a dozen or so logs of Cissus and PowerFULL could do wonders to get the product carried by by more retailers.
USPLabs is a bit over the top with the thread titles here and this initally put me off to their products. The user reviews here of Cissus though convinced me to try it and to my surprise it lived up to hype. Word of mouth via these reviews is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising. Sure companies can claim that they've done extensive internal beta testing or fund studies but what ultimately sells the products are reviews from other users that people can associate with.
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ersatz said:
Thread titles attract the click and the body of the thread is real.
I value your opinion and its an approach we have taken since the inception of our company. The contest is to reward previous customers. We are at a point that our Products have stood the test of time. We can reward previous customers and gain new ones. The contest will take shape tomorrow.
Take care
snakebyte05
Board Supporter
USPLabs said:
I'm interested to see what it is. I just got my order of cissus rx, cAMP, and C2 in the mail today. Order from nutra with the rest of the stuff I needed. Look forward to trying it out. Most likely I will use the cissus on my next cycle and the camp with c2 for my cutter after pct.
200wannabe
Board Supporter
I have just started Cissus & Camphibolic today for the first time. Will happily provide reviews.
My decision to purchase came from the overwhelmingly positive feedback i have seen.
Not sure what your competition is as you have edited the thread.
Im in the UK where i believe your about to start supplying, i can run a log on a UK board if you wish.
My decision to purchase came from the overwhelmingly positive feedback i have seen.
Not sure what your competition is as you have edited the thread.
Im in the UK where i believe your about to start supplying, i can run a log on a UK board if you wish.
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Yes please run a log at musclesoc.com usplab section:} I will hook you up with a free product post log:}.200wannabe said:
MDH
New member
Hey folks,
I'm working out the details of this contest and trying to come up with a way to determine a winner fairly. Since you guys represent a sample of our market, your thoughts/suggestions could be very helpful!
Obviously "total views" is too inaccurate and could easily be foiled by cheaters. I could monitor this on OUR board and disqualify the cheaters, but I have no control over the others.
I'm trying to think of a "weighted scale" method, where total views is only a component of the winning criteria. Other factors such as # of posts by original poster (not including "bump" type posts) and # of posts on the thread total... etc. could be part of the equation.
I'm trying to avoid a "judging" situation where one entity (especially us) is responsible for determining the winner. This creates too many questions and certainly has the ability to skew the honesty of the logs, which would undermine the whole purpose for the contest.
Ultimately, I want you guys to feel comfortable with the rules before we begin. I'm open to any suggestions you may have. Please keep in mind we want to start this ASAP, as many people have already received their product and will not have a fair shot if we wait until they use half of it.
Thank you all!
I'm working out the details of this contest and trying to come up with a way to determine a winner fairly. Since you guys represent a sample of our market, your thoughts/suggestions could be very helpful!
Obviously "total views" is too inaccurate and could easily be foiled by cheaters. I could monitor this on OUR board and disqualify the cheaters, but I have no control over the others.
I'm trying to think of a "weighted scale" method, where total views is only a component of the winning criteria. Other factors such as # of posts by original poster (not including "bump" type posts) and # of posts on the thread total... etc. could be part of the equation.
I'm trying to avoid a "judging" situation where one entity (especially us) is responsible for determining the winner. This creates too many questions and certainly has the ability to skew the honesty of the logs, which would undermine the whole purpose for the contest.
Ultimately, I want you guys to feel comfortable with the rules before we begin. I'm open to any suggestions you may have. Please keep in mind we want to start this ASAP, as many people have already received their product and will not have a fair shot if we wait until they use half of it.
Thank you all!
candyman26
New member
ive been takin cissus for a fewweeks now and camph for 3 days. Ill gladly run a log if it means a free product:thumbsup:
ersatz
Well-known member
People who are determined to cheat will do so regardless of the safeguards that are implemented. You can limit this to an extent using a number of criterion to determine the winner. This would include but not limited to number of views, # of replies, inclusion of blood work, before and after pics, etc. The more effort involved in the contest the less likely someone is apt to cheat. The first place prize of $1500 though is a strong incentive to cheat so perhaps you could reduce it to $400 and $300, 250, 200, 150, and 100 for 2-6th place. Again this is why the free/reduced price for logs scheme works well. They have little to gain by exaggerating the effectiveness of the product.
A referral program/contest would be the best. The person with the most referrals has obviously done the best job in convincing others to try the product line. Whether this is feasible is another question.
As somewhat of an aside, MAN has a product called Bone Boost that are pimping on bb.com. It already has a number of people volunteering and numerous others with joint problems will follow the posts and logs. The product appears to be a Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM/vit d combo which I doubt is even a fraction as effective as Cissus.
A referral program/contest would be the best. The person with the most referrals has obviously done the best job in convincing others to try the product line. Whether this is feasible is another question.
As somewhat of an aside, MAN has a product called Bone Boost that are pimping on bb.com. It already has a number of people volunteering and numerous others with joint problems will follow the posts and logs. The product appears to be a Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM/vit d combo which I doubt is even a fraction as effective as Cissus.
Onslaught
Member
$1500 first prize? Here I come...
- I can easily write a script that would put 1000 views on a thread in an hour.
- I'll just toss some superdrol in with my USP product(s)
- I'll digitally enhance my photos
- I'll sign up with multiple names and reply to my own thread
- I'll use those fake names and make some fake referral purchases
Sign me up
I agree with ersatz, if you couldn't tell. Or maybe, I am ersatz.
- I can easily write a script that would put 1000 views on a thread in an hour.
- I'll just toss some superdrol in with my USP product(s)
- I'll digitally enhance my photos
- I'll sign up with multiple names and reply to my own thread
- I'll use those fake names and make some fake referral purchases
Sign me up
I agree with ersatz, if you couldn't tell. Or maybe, I am ersatz.
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The competition never took off...
MDH
New member
Salv,
We haven't launched the competition because ersatz and Onslaught are cheaters. :rofl: Just kidding!!
Seriously, thank you guys for your input. That's exactly why I wanted to run this by everyone. I was having a difficult time coming up with a fair way to select a winner, and I think it may do more harm than good to run the competition before that happens.
We haven't launched the competition because ersatz and Onslaught are cheaters. :rofl: Just kidding!!
Seriously, thank you guys for your input. That's exactly why I wanted to run this by everyone. I was having a difficult time coming up with a fair way to select a winner, and I think it may do more harm than good to run the competition before that happens.