Complex PCT - finished and blood tests are in!
Hey everyone!
Ive put together a 4 week post cycle therapy plan for the cycle im just about ending this wednesday. i have a whole bunch of stuff lying around so hopefully this is the best way to use them.
first a little background on the cycle just ending.
was out of shape since june 06. (got married in oct'06 so got very busy) so i needed a a plan to get back in shape real fast.
so:
weeks 1 to 2 : powerfull,camphibolic , NHA, sesathin. adipokintex/stim-x switching
week 3 to 4 : added light to moderate doses of m-4ohn, added ala 3 times daily, stopped powerfull.
* worked out great and dropped from 90KG to 86.5KG while gaining strength and definition. all good so far.
week 5 to 9 :stop m4-ohn, stop activate and nha. Add superdrol at 20mg daily(except for a few days in week 4 at 30mg but sides were becoming noticable and i didnt like that. nothing too bad like m-1t though).
added dcp(morning, pre workout), cycle support(great great product - morning and night), sesathin at lunch. AP before lunch and post workout.
cycle summary results:
since week 1 and ive been seeing tremendous results. i have done a lot of cycles before and i honestly have to say, especially considering week 1 was my return to the gym after a lay-off) that it has been phenominal. The results ive experienced have come in at least twice as fast :thumbsup:
current weight is hovering around 91KG, looking twice as big, and strength being around 80% of my old max's.
looking very defined and even my gut has been shrinking quite nicely.
sides were limited to random muscle cramps and lethergy, from managable to quite annoying. but its expected. i feel 4 weeks on superdrol after all that has been perfect. pushing just enough ;-)
this is the trend i want to continue for post cycle therapy.
i had a full blood panel done pre anything(straight after recovering from a nasty virus too )
and ill be doing same panel first day of post cycle therapy just to check everything is a-ok.
I did not and will not be doing hormone tests again, as i cant afford this right now. most likely i will do these end of post cycle therapy by 2 weeks. the test/free test/e2 cost more than the whole panel!
anyways, id really love comments on the following post cycle therapy. i know some of these things are not standard protocols like clomid. that is something im trying new here as i hated clomid's emotional effects. so bear that in mind ;-)
post cycle therapy:
pre post cycle therapy:
* 3 days before post cycle therapy start : 1 dose activate, 1 dose RXT befor bed
* 1 day before post cycle therapy start : start clomid at 50mg/day with 3 ON / 3 OFF dosing
post cycle therapy start:
* start usp labs' camphibolic
* DHEA at : week 1 to 2 150mg, week 3 to 4 100mg daily
* DS's Rebound reloaded at : week 1 to 2 1 pill daily, week 3 to 4 2 pills
* Avants super absolved on midsection 1 to 2 times daily
* continue AI's cycle support untill it runs out (will sustitute with RYR/coq10/ala/guggle combo)
* AP lunch and with post workout shake
* day 1 to 10 DS's LX at 1 pill at night
* day 11 to 28 Retain at 100mg
** day 4 to 11 : Nolva at 30mg daily
**day 12 to 19 : Nolva at 20mg daily
start of week 2:
add powerfull at reg dosing
add adipokinetix/stim-x at 1 to 2 doses per day as needed
* the above will be accompanied by an increase in calories during same period.
at end of post cycle therapy i will evaluate its success and consider repeating the 4 weeks on powerfull,nha and low dose m4-ohn/m-dien for an extreme cut(depending how my midsection looks by then ofcourse.
finally my thoughts on what ive used:
* powerfull : absolutely amazing, the subtle effect on mood and energy is worth the money alone. happy happy and sore all the time!
* m-4ohn : great little supp. perfect aid for that little extra shove in the gym, good mood lift and no side effects.
* AP : havent used by itself so cant decide for sure. but judging from my old superdrol cycles i did feel that nutrient partitioning was improved. this will def show while i increase cals on post cycle therapy so watch this space.
* cycle support : amazing! all major effects of superdrol were kept at a minimum.(burning pee, sporadic cramps, lower back pumps etc) will see more hard facts when i do my blood panel.
fyi. the cramps i did feel i attribute to the combo of superdrol and dcp most likely.
* adipo/stim-x : great, very comparable. they both make me sweat a nasty chemical odor though. so i gotta find a solution for that.
* i added stevia as sugar replacement and NOW's pro biotic blend. i feel they both helped a great deal.
any comments are appreciated especially on retain as ive never used it before, but from what ive gathered it would be a good fit up there?
Link to my previous cycle and blood test results-june 06
Hey everyone!
Ive put together a 4 week post cycle therapy plan for the cycle im just about ending this wednesday. i have a whole bunch of stuff lying around so hopefully this is the best way to use them.
first a little background on the cycle just ending.
was out of shape since june 06. (got married in oct'06 so got very busy) so i needed a a plan to get back in shape real fast.
so:
weeks 1 to 2 : powerfull,camphibolic , NHA, sesathin. adipokintex/stim-x switching
week 3 to 4 : added light to moderate doses of m-4ohn, added ala 3 times daily, stopped powerfull.
* worked out great and dropped from 90KG to 86.5KG while gaining strength and definition. all good so far.
week 5 to 9 :stop m4-ohn, stop activate and nha. Add superdrol at 20mg daily(except for a few days in week 4 at 30mg but sides were becoming noticable and i didnt like that. nothing too bad like m-1t though).
added dcp(morning, pre workout), cycle support(great great product - morning and night), sesathin at lunch. AP before lunch and post workout.
cycle summary results:
since week 1 and ive been seeing tremendous results. i have done a lot of cycles before and i honestly have to say, especially considering week 1 was my return to the gym after a lay-off) that it has been phenominal. The results ive experienced have come in at least twice as fast :thumbsup:
current weight is hovering around 91KG, looking twice as big, and strength being around 80% of my old max's.
looking very defined and even my gut has been shrinking quite nicely.
sides were limited to random muscle cramps and lethergy, from managable to quite annoying. but its expected. i feel 4 weeks on superdrol after all that has been perfect. pushing just enough ;-)
this is the trend i want to continue for post cycle therapy.
i had a full blood panel done pre anything(straight after recovering from a nasty virus too )
and ill be doing same panel first day of post cycle therapy just to check everything is a-ok.
I did not and will not be doing hormone tests again, as i cant afford this right now. most likely i will do these end of post cycle therapy by 2 weeks. the test/free test/e2 cost more than the whole panel!
anyways, id really love comments on the following post cycle therapy. i know some of these things are not standard protocols like clomid. that is something im trying new here as i hated clomid's emotional effects. so bear that in mind ;-)
post cycle therapy:
pre post cycle therapy:
* 3 days before post cycle therapy start : 1 dose activate, 1 dose RXT befor bed
* 1 day before post cycle therapy start : start clomid at 50mg/day with 3 ON / 3 OFF dosing
post cycle therapy start:
* start usp labs' camphibolic
* DHEA at : week 1 to 2 150mg, week 3 to 4 100mg daily
* DS's Rebound reloaded at : week 1 to 2 1 pill daily, week 3 to 4 2 pills
* Avants super absolved on midsection 1 to 2 times daily
* continue AI's cycle support untill it runs out (will sustitute with RYR/coq10/ala/guggle combo)
* AP lunch and with post workout shake
* day 1 to 10 DS's LX at 1 pill at night
* day 11 to 28 Retain at 100mg
** day 4 to 11 : Nolva at 30mg daily
**day 12 to 19 : Nolva at 20mg daily
start of week 2:
add powerfull at reg dosing
add adipokinetix/stim-x at 1 to 2 doses per day as needed
* the above will be accompanied by an increase in calories during same period.
at end of post cycle therapy i will evaluate its success and consider repeating the 4 weeks on powerfull,nha and low dose m4-ohn/m-dien for an extreme cut(depending how my midsection looks by then ofcourse.
finally my thoughts on what ive used:
* powerfull : absolutely amazing, the subtle effect on mood and energy is worth the money alone. happy happy and sore all the time!
* m-4ohn : great little supp. perfect aid for that little extra shove in the gym, good mood lift and no side effects.
* AP : havent used by itself so cant decide for sure. but judging from my old superdrol cycles i did feel that nutrient partitioning was improved. this will def show while i increase cals on post cycle therapy so watch this space.
* cycle support : amazing! all major effects of superdrol were kept at a minimum.(burning pee, sporadic cramps, lower back pumps etc) will see more hard facts when i do my blood panel.
fyi. the cramps i did feel i attribute to the combo of superdrol and dcp most likely.
* adipo/stim-x : great, very comparable. they both make me sweat a nasty chemical odor though. so i gotta find a solution for that.
* i added stevia as sugar replacement and NOW's pro biotic blend. i feel they both helped a great deal.
any comments are appreciated especially on retain as ive never used it before, but from what ive gathered it would be a good fit up there?
Link to my previous cycle and blood test results-june 06
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