Unanswered Coming off cycle test booster
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LeanEngineer
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I'd be interested to see how many have tried to get bloods before and after.. In general though, test boosters I typically go with are BLR Viron or alphamax xt.
aaronuconn
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Not sure what else you’re running in PCT, but from a natty test booster perspective, M-Test from CEL is very tough to beat. Outstanding ingredients for a good price ($30). Great not only for supporting testosterone and free testosterone, but also cortisol. Should notice nice libido boost too.
Someone posted bloodwork recently that showed favorable affects on testosterone.
Someone posted bloodwork recently that showed favorable affects on testosterone.
Imsaint
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Clomid nolva and I know it’s not needed to stack them but I’ve been on for a while and have both so why not. I’ll check that out.
Imsaint
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I’ll check them out
AntM1564
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I would second Viron. The log below has bloods for another BLR supplement, but goes to show that the products work.
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stopstalking
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Someone recently posted bloods on CEL m-Test and it was a significant increase in test. I’ve ran it several times and the libido boost is very hard to beat
Imsaint
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On this site?
malin
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M-test . Don’t expect miracles , but I do believe that it helps me during my pct .
Never used it before , that’s a first run . The biggest thing for me is a fact that emotional sids from Clomid are non existent , every time I’ve run Clomid before I would be a bit of a snowflake here and there, and I know my Clomid is legit. Increased libido and wellbeing are evident.
I wasn’t convinced that it is as good as people claimed , but now I think that it is worth every penny ( and it s very well priced) .
Never used it before , that’s a first run . The biggest thing for me is a fact that emotional sids from Clomid are non existent , every time I’ve run Clomid before I would be a bit of a snowflake here and there, and I know my Clomid is legit. Increased libido and wellbeing are evident.
I wasn’t convinced that it is as good as people claimed , but now I think that it is worth every penny ( and it s very well priced) .
Imsaint
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stopstalking
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Yes sir and I see resolve linked it for you
ValiantThor08
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Are you using an AI?
thebigt
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m-test is a great choice, I've had great results stacking m-test with sustain alpha.
sustain alpha is a combo of 7,8 benzoflavone and resveratrol. it has a mild AI effect and i get a great libido boost, not to mention the fantastic mood.
many guys here at AM use sustain alpha as part of pct.
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cheftepesh1
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blongo804
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Got nothing besides a quick libido boost for a week or two from running MTest + Sustain Alpha in PCT alongside nolva. Ran 8 weeks MTest, 4 weeks Sustain Alpha.
Bloodwork confirmed my test levels didn't even bounce back to pre cycle. I'm on clomid now for the next couple of weeks to hopefully fix that.
Everything else on the bloodwork was good though. Just posting my experience.
Bloodwork confirmed my test levels didn't even bounce back to pre cycle. I'm on clomid now for the next couple of weeks to hopefully fix that.
Everything else on the bloodwork was good though. Just posting my experience.
DaeshDontSurf
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report back on clomid (rx?). nolva great at protect breast while e2 normalize, but there reason it not off label for trt. i like both for pct (before i on trt) - but must be rx (unless you pre-test your rc with blood draw for $70). good luck!
LeanEngineer
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Many more logs and reviews like this one to back up the product.
blongo804
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The clomid is for research use, not Rx, but the source is very reputable. I'll definitely get blood work again after clomid use. I'm doing 4 weeks at 25mg/day. I'll probably wait another month after use and get blood drawn again, and i'll try to remember this post to update.
thebigt
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that is a unfair comparison given the fact that some are more slow to bounce back to normal in pct.
with that said it has been my experience that not everyone reacts positively to anything. many guys have good things to say about both m-test and sustain alpha as part of pct, apparently they didn't work as well for you as they have for others.
DaeshDontSurf
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ahhh. i do not like wanting to wait 2 months for to see if research chem working. not when hpta recovery at risk. if go that way, should get two different bottles (company a and company b) and rotate e.o.d. i wish you luck my friend!
blongo804
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My comparison comes from my test levels having bounced back fine from using the same nolva dose, without anything else, for 4 weeks after my prior cycle. That is why I was hoping for a little more by including MTest and SA alongside nolva this time around. Oh well.
Not a huge deal. Not everyone will respond to everything. I just have little faith in natural products..besides MassMax from Performax. That stuff gave literal natty gains, mind blowingly.
blongo804
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Thanks for the good wishes. Sorry I'll take too long to give results lol. All my levels are in "normal" range right now, so I'm not worried about recovery. I'm using clomid to get closer to "my" normal.
DaeshDontSurf
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no, i mean if i was you - not that i expect report from you! lol!!!!!! "normal" range joke - what labcorp min down to now, 290? and they drop max to 900s? (i go look, hold on)... 264! to 916! travesty. they keep getting sicker and sicker people to base "nomal" on. i like dr. rand mcclain = 800+ for therapeutic benefit.
TommyTuffGuy
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Other companies really need to start looking at M-Test and re-designing their Natural T-boosters to hit that sweet $30 mark.
sns8778
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There are plenty of 30.00 products out there but no natural test boosters that are as comprehensive as M-Test because it is so loaded with ingredients that it selling for less than 30.00 makes it a very low margin product. Great for consumers but not appealing margins for many companies. CEL frequently has retailers get upset that they don't try to enforce higher MAP pricing on it but the point with M-Test is to offer the absolute best product at a price that everyone can afford.
stopstalking
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For a cycle you should bring using clomid and the m-test together. It would have had you bounce back fast.
Imsaint
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Picked up mtest to give it a shot along side pct. I will report back and let you guys know if it helped. However, I doubt that I’ll be able to tell if that alone had any significant role since I’m stacking it with my pct protocol. Will probably get another bottle for shits after my levels are back to baseline. Cheers
Imsaint
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Picked up mtest to give it a shot along side pct. I will report back and let you guys know if it helped. However, I doubt that I’ll be able to tell if that alone had any significant role since I’m stacking it with my pct protocol. Will probably get another bottle for shits after my levels are back to baseline. Cheers
Imsaint
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Picked up mtest to give it a shot along side pct. I will report back and let you guys know if it helped. However, I doubt that I’ll be able to tell if that alone had any significant role since I’m stacking it with my pct protocol. Will probably get another bottle for shits after my levels are back to baseline. Cheers
ValiantThor08
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If you react well to boron and nettle root extract, it will lower shbg and free test. Typically during PCT, shbg rises, and so does total test, but free test is where it matters, and since shbg is high during pct, free test is low. So if you react well to boron and nettle extract, and shilajit, you should feel better than with just a SERM alone.
ValiantThor08
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Also advise you to compare. Try out Viron, rebirth, letrone combo. If your budget allows.
DaeshDontSurf
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shbg not being worried about by trt docs now, since it appear that shbg can dock at androgen receptor. dr scott stevens just talk about this. even when "free t" was rallying cry, they never rx (i think danazol?) to lower shbg - they just increase testosterone dose. clomiphene have capable to raise testosterone really high - even over trt levels (say 900s or even 1000) - many bloodwork all over showing 12 and some 1300 on clomid. my last 6? blood draws have show carbohydrates to influence shbg: low carb=high(er) shbg. shbg now being looked as reservoir of testosterone.
ValiantThor08
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TRT docs will increase total t because that usually bumps up free t. I read an article that showed a study that someone who had low free t had all the symptoms of low test even though he had moderate high total test levels. I have a friend that had low free T, and he was having horrible low test symptoms. He was able to triple his free t levels and he felt like a different man.
thebigt
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what supplement site are you getting your clomid from?
Imsaint
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Stacked or back to back?
AndroRage
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I’ve been reading how Nettle root is not optimal for T Boosting as lowers DHT and reduces something but didn’t quite understand. Seems to divide opinion Nettle root
thebigt
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designer supplements activate and rebound xt were the top test boosters around 10 years ago.
activate=divanil[nettle root]
rebound xt=anti estrogen
the combination of divanil[nettle root] and anti estrogen worked really well, many guys got great results from this combo.