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Combating test-less sides

Noodles28

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Hey guys,

For all you guys that run PH's, what do you do to combat lethargy and libido loss while on cycle? I've run a cycle of halodrol before and as I began to feel myself shutting down, I really suffered from the 2. Can anything really be done or do I just need to ride the sides out until pct?

-thanks
 
4ad is another one that some use.
 
mw1 said:
Stano would be my choice as well. How did you dose your Halo?
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I'm thinking about running epi soon and read somewhere that stano would make for a poor combination. I looked into dermacrine and it looks like a good option; other than having to rub myself with cream daily.

And I believe I dosed my halo @ 50/75/75/75/100 or something to that effect. It was a great cycle, I just really suffered from lethargy and a lack of sex drive towards the end.
 
Noodles28 said:
I'm thinking about running epi soon and read somewhere that stano would make for a poor combination. I looked into dermacrine and it looks like a good option; other than having to rub myself with cream daily. And I believe I dosed my halo @ 50/75/75/75/100 or something to that effect. It was a great cycle, I just really suffered from lethargy and a lack of sex drive towards the end.
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Quite a few that I know use stano as well. I know it's definitely better if ran at a higher dose.
 
5-alpha test or AMS 4AD both work great for lethargy. Honestly I love 5-alpha it gives me more energy then anything else.
 
Basically a "cutting" dht based ph/ds will be the best choice. I'm running furaza as my base at 300 a day with superdrol and tren and honestly this has been a very solid cycle this far. Lethargy only on trensomnia nights and on extreme low carb days.

I've heard trest is good but super wet. No experience personally.
 
superbeast668 said:
It's being tested as a male contraceptive. I personally won't be touching it. Just google trestolone acetate. You'll find info.
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Worried about the sides? Honestly the contraceptive part of it does not effect me the wife fixed it so I am good to go either way! But it is wet and very gyno prone from what I have seen so far.
 
I did epi and stano, I still had bad lethargy and a gutter libido. I will try trest next cause 4ad is too expensive.
 
hyperCat said:
AlphaBulk worked well for me - better than stano.
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I agree, either alpha bulk or 4ad would be the most similar to a true test base. But I do enjoy 5alpha test the most myself the energy is truly amazing.
 
CaptForest said:
I did epi and stano, I still had bad lethargy and a gutter libido. I will try trest next cause 4ad is too expensive.
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Just watch the estrogen, play it safe use a strong AI.
 
How do you guys think running sustain-alpha alongside dermacrine and epistane would be? Should keep the libido alive, energy up, and keep shutdown to a minimum. Or is it counter productive to run sustain-alpha w/dermacrine?
 
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