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alexander72

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I am taking a strong PH stack that includes Tren, Epistane, and Superdrol.

Tren -120mg/day
Epistane - 10mg/ day
Superdrol- 60mg/day

I have been taking this for about two and a half weeks and its going to be a 6 week cycle. So i need to figure out which Post Cycle will work better. I heard these two work the best but theyre not over the counter so i do not know where to get them at.. Please let me know where to get these at because I already have a PCT lined up, i just dont think it will be strong enough and i would like to get Nolvadex or Clomid.

I have a side that seems like gyno, just sore nipples and the nipples look a little swollen, not the tissue, i dont have bitch tits yet, and thats what im trying to prevent so please just help me out and let me know.
 
You might want to check the dosing in your original post. I'm assuming its a typo, but you never know... 10mg epi, 60mg sd each day?
 
Also posting sources is not allowed, neither is asking for sources, you gotta find them on your own, and an otc pct for this cycle is NOT sufficient. If you already feel gyno symtpoms, get your hands on nolva ASAP. It has more gyno-reducing and eliminating properties of the two, whereas clomid gets your balls back as its main priority (there's a LOT more to know, that's just a one sentence summary. Start reading)
 
Sorry for the triple post, but the mobile version of these forums doesn't allow edits (that or I can't figure out how). Also, do not take superdrol for more than 3 weeks with this cycle. You shouldn't have stacked two methyls in my opinion, but that's not worth much. You have cycle support set up well for your liver I hope?
 
Hmmm, may as well say it. 140 pounds at 5'8" and you ran this? Is it tribol-60 by chance? Hopefully you didn't mean 60mg of superdrol. 6 weeks seems a tad long for that IMO. Don't take nolva on cycle with tren. Nolva upregulates progesterone receptors.
 
:( thats some hard core stuff sad he didnt have a SERM before he started this madness
 
I am actually still 5'8'' and i weight 165lbs now.

also

Tren 120/120/120/120/120/150
Epi 10/10/10/10
Superdrol 60/60/60/60

yeah its only 10mg epi per day...

I think im going to order my Nolva online, you guys think thats safe?
 
Immediately lower the dose of the superdrol. Cut it in half, atleast. And why the hell would you take 10mg of epi on top of this? Just doesn't make any sense...
 
Ok at least you're not still 140. Ordering online is the only way to get it (besides prescription) so you might not have a choice there. Google research chemicals and find some sources. I would read up on the site before ordering. Definitely lower your sd dosage, it's called rat poison for a reason.

Are you stacking these together? Or are all these compounds in a pill?
 
posting before he says he says "but gnc has novedex xt and clomex? why do you say i need to order them online or have a script."

and that his support supps are MegaMen
 
rofl...

sounds like tribal 60... and taking it 3x a day.

i have a friend who is stupid and wouldnt listen to me... he took tribol 60 3x a day.... totaling 60mg SD...... ran it for 4 weeks..... WITHOUT ANY support suppliments..... het got mad everytime i tried to tell him he needed to be careful..... his sides were bad back acne and disappearing testicles..... His PCT was an OTC 6bromo product...
 
alexander72 said:
I am actually still 5'8'' and i weight 165lbs now.

also

Tren 120/120/120/120/120/150
Epi 10/10/10/10
Superdrol 60/60/60/60

yeah its only 10mg epi per day...

I think im going to order my Nolva online, you guys think thats safe?
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Damn...where did you research this was a good cycle?

First things first, ORDER A SERM ASAP, after this shhiz I would honestly go ahead and order some letro too, might not need it but I would want it on hand.

Assuming you have no idea how to get a SERM, look up research chemicals and order Nolva and Letro, again just me but I would go straight into PCT when you recieve it (I would also overnight all the chems)

Dose Nolva 40/30/20/10 and pick up at natty test booster also. Only run the letro IF you are sure you have developed gyno. Are your nuts like raisins yet?

You might think everyones being a bunch of a** holes on here but this is the reason the FDA doesnt want this stuff around anymore dude.
 
If you're taking a progestin, which you are. I am going to recommend you take Clomiphene over Nolvadex.

From my experiences and from what I have read, this is what I've come to follow:

Clomid:
- Will improve sex drive significantly (and your loads too)
- Good for preventing gyno.
- Acne is a concern. I get horrible acne while on clomid.
- Emotional problems. A lot of people act like little girls while on clomid.
- Good for lipids. And good for regulating prolactin levels.

Nolva:
- Will decrease sex drive signicantly.
- Great for preventing gyno (better than Clomid).
- I have no acne concerns here.

... Nolva will be better for gyno protection. But it all comes down to how important your sex drive is for you, and if you're running a progestin.

I'm going to recommend you were run clomid just because you have Tren in your stack.
 
Wow your an idiot for not researching before screwing your body up potential forever. Cut your stack in half immediaty.
 
WTFFFFFFF

IM NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT... 60MG


NIGGGAAAAAAA
 
alright sorry my internet was down for awhile. yes i am using Tribol 60 thats where the epi and superdrol come from. Then i stacked tren with it.

The thing is my libido isnt down at all from these. and i mean my nipples are a little sore and possibly a little swollen but its not major swelling and its my nipple thats a little sore when i press on my peck.. idk does that sound like gyno, i wanted to make sure i take care of it immediatly if it is.

so yeah im looking to order some nolva asap

also whoever asked if my balls had shrunk, they have a bit but not a significant amount that im worried about
 
you should be more worried about massive liver damage. Stop your stack now and learn something, dont be a damned moron.
 
god all you guys here just wanna give me ****... I'd appreciate some advice. that's what I came here gor and you all are trying to give me bad rep points, what did I do wrong besides ask for some advise. cmon be resonable.

and it's a superdrol clone it's not the old superdol formula. it's in a supplement called tribol 60.

tribol 60 contains: (2times/day)
2a,17a-Dimenthyl-17B-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one..........20mg
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-andro-stan-17b-ol..................5mg
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one...……..........35mg

+

30mg Tren (4per/day)


also I am taking DIM-plus with all this which helps get rid of bad estrogen

also taking all the other good stuff you take when weighttraining anyway
 
no one is giving you ****... there giving you second chacne at life. When I first saw your doses my jaw dropped... its just so far beyond anything id heard of. I ran 30mg ed of SD and got shut the **** down reall bad.
 
Yeah there's always going to be some criticism, though some of it may not be "constructive". Just extract the little good information from all the bashing, it's there. The superdrol is still 17a methylated so it's still going to crush your liver. 60mgs of it is asking for yellow eyes. As for nolva on cycle with tren... only if you want to nurse on your lactating nips for protein. Yes, nolva may be better for gyno control, but it UPREGULATES progesterone receptors. Tren is a PROGESTERONE.
 
alexander72 said:
god all you guys here just wanna give me ****... I'd appreciate some advice. that's what I came here gor and you all are trying to give me bad rep points, what did I do wrong besides ask for some advise. cmon be resonable.

and it's a superdrol clone it's not the old superdol formula. it's in a supplement called tribol 60.

tribol 60 contains: (2times/day)
2a,17a-Dimenthyl-17B-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one..........20mg
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-andro-stan-17b-ol..................5mg
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one...……..........35mg

+

30mg Tren (4per/day)


also I am taking DIM-plus with all this which helps get rid of bad estrogen

also taking all the other good stuff you take when weighttraining anyway
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We are trying to help you, but you keep acting like you know everything and ignoring what we say.

The Superdrol in there is still dimethylated, and it has another methyl in there as well... you are just asking for Cholestasis at best, Hepatitis at likely, and liver failure at worst.

not to mention the bad idea of taking nolva with a progestin.

you need to stop this cycle and learn something before you touch another cycle.
 
the sides are subsiding and I'm not feeling as bad as I did before. today is also the first day I cut the superdol and epi out of my stack so it's just a tren cycle and hopefully I'll be set with both nolvadex and clomid I ordered both and I have a pretty good strong natural test booster or after too
 
I am going to hijack this thread with a request for moderators.

Can we get some new emoticons? I would like one of a heart monitor that flat lines and another of a healthy looking liver, and then two smilies run up to it and beat the **** out of it.

I believe these would work perfectly when these threads come up.
 
HereToStudy said:
I am going to hijack this thread with a request for moderators.

Can we get some new emoticons? I would like one of a heart monitor that flat lines and another of a healthy looking liver, and then two smilies run up to it and beat the **** out of it.

I believe these would work perfectly when these threads come up.
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Lmao
 
HereToStudy said:
I am going to hijack this thread with a request for moderators.

Can we get some new emoticons? I would like one of a heart monitor that flat lines and another of a healthy looking liver, and then two smilies run up to it and beat the **** out of it.

I believe these would work perfectly when these threads come up.
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I second this motion
 
HereToStudy said:
I am going to hijack this thread with a request for moderators.

Can we get some new emoticons? I would like one of a heart monitor that flat lines and another of a healthy looking liver, and then two smilies run up to it and beat the **** out of it.

I believe these would work perfectly when these threads come up.
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ROFL :icon_lol:
 
wow i thought i got shut down bad from a H-roid cycle... good luck dude, hope it dosent take the 3 months it took my balls to come back.
 
I agree with alot of things that are said on these boards but Im not sold on the use of a serm. I've done many cycles and never used one what I do agree on is to protect your organs. I just completed a tribol cycle which consisted of tribol, on cycle assist, erase, titanium,milk thistle, and at the end novadex xt. My nuts never shrivled erections are still fine no bitch tits, all blood work came back clean my doctor said not bad for a 40 year old. I also still have all of my gains I think one of the most important things during all of this is eating a clean diet.

In my younger days I ran some pretty sick cycles with no pct at all never even heard of pct. We ran them 2 months on 1 month off. A friend of mine is on the competition level and runs some wickid stuff with no pct and his levels when checked are fine. one of the things I will say is that its all poison so choose wisely and hope it works for you.
 
OP Please get bloodwork, I want to see what they look like after 6 weeks of all that...thats if you make it through the 6 weeks.
 
Thats alot of super. If your liver doesnt fail by cycles end, go with nolva. In my opinion, less emotional sides, and lower doses needed. Even at those doses i would run Nolva 20/20/10/10 and maybe another 10 depending on your recovery rate. Get some tribulus ZMA, some sustain alpha, and a tub of milk thistle, 2lbs loose powder, and mix it with everything liquid you put down. Good luck
 
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