Clen’s Road to a 315 Bench, Msten DMZ log

[hairygrandpa]

Still following and giving you "telepathic support"

 

[ChocolateClen]

Still following and giving you "telepathic support"

Thanks HGP, any thoughts on the gyno flare up?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Thanks HGP, any thoughts on the gyno flare up?

Nah. But in any case it could be prolactin related (swollen milk glands). Ralox may not help here and should take care of estrogen. Prami/caber time.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Nah. But in any case it could be prolactin related (swollen milk glands). Ralox may not help here and should take care of estrogen. Prami/caber time.

I was thinking that, should I back off the Ralox slowly and start caber/prami? Or should I just use both?

 

[ChocolateClen]

Nah. But in any case it could be prolactin related (swollen milk glands). Ralox may not help here and should take care of estrogen. Prami/caber time.

I was thinking that, should I back off the Ralox slowly or drop to like 25mg a day and start caber/prami? Or should I just use both either the Ralox at the same dosage that I have been?

 

[ChocolateClen]

Yesterday was super crazy guys I had to work all day after lifting and I got home at 10, ate dinner showered then passed out.

Yesterday’s workout was pretty short:

Core

Lateral Squats off box
3x20kg

Manual neck flexion extension
3x8

ISO abs 3x30s

Bench Press
185x10 slow down fast up

Lat Pulldowns 3x185x10

External Rotations

Still losing bodyfat which is nice, don’t think I’m losing too much muscle just lots of waterweight and glycogen I think. Really sore from benching though so recovery isn’t as good which is to be expected

 

[ChocolateClen]

Today’s Recap
Sleep: 3hr 15 min with 4hr 21 in bed
Quality: 42%

Def need more sleep. Pretty sore from yesterday’s workout still but I’ll lift again tomorrow. Just finished the first order of Ralox so I’ll be starting the new order soon as well. Have absolutely no sex drive at all, I don’t know when that’ll return but just nah in that department. Other than that I feel pretty good. Tired but not crazy tired or anything like I thought I would be. Arms are getting a bit smaller as well but nothing too terribly noticeable yet. Hoping I keep most of the gains and the fat off. Hard cause I’m a lot more hungry now.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Not dead guys just super busy with work.
Weight is 194.5 as of this morning. Bf still low but I think I put a bit back on. Libido is shot still though. Working on getting that going again.

 

[Jeremyk1]

Not dead guys just super busy with work.
Weight is 194.5 as of this morning. Bf still low but I think I put a bit back on. Libido is shot still though. Working on getting that going again.

If you haven’t tried it, Maca is pretty good for libido. I got a powder from NOW, not sure if that’s still out there, been years. But it’s a much better value than caps, and it was 4:1 extract. I capped it sometimes, but I also sometimes threw it in protein shakes, didn’t really taste that bad.

 

[ChocolateClen]

If you haven’t tried it, Maca is pretty good for libido. I got a powder from NOW, not sure if that’s still out there, been years. But it’s a much better value than caps, and it was 4:1 extract. I capped it sometimes, but I also sometimes threw it in protein shakes, didn’t really taste that bad.

I was just gonna use viagra haha. Will have to check it out

 

[Jeremyk1]

I was just gonna use viagra haha. Will have to check it out

That might help! Although, from my understanding, viagra will help “get it up” as it increases blood flow, but doesn’t really affect libido much. For me at least, Maca helped performance a little, hard to say for sure, but desire was definitely there. Also, it decreased fatigue. It was subtle, but after I stopped using it, I began to notice I was a little more tired. I keep thinking I need to pick some up again, but I haven’t.

 

[ChocolateClen]

I last way too long to begin with so I probably don’t need it for that reason

 

[Hyde]

I last way too long to begin with so I probably don’t need it for that reason

If you last too long your prolactin may run higher naturally as is

 

[ChocolateClen]

If you last too long your prolactin may run higher naturally as is

I’m thinking that’s the case cause of the way my gyno acts sometimes when I run an AI etc. gonna try out caber with my Ralox at some point in the future

I’m thinking that might be why my gyno always comes back.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Just a quick update. Finishing up my last 2 weeks of PCT, I’m doing 25 eod for 2 weeks. Extended it out a lot because my libido was down (still kinda is). Boys are back to their normal size again though.

Just hoping my libido recovers fully, miss the morning wood to be honest lol

Weight is 191 with a lower bf, gonna check it Friday probably. Numbers still going up everywhere else but I don’t think I’ll hit 325 in time

 

[ChocolateClen]

Backing off the Ralox, libido is still in the tank so to speak. Not sure why at this point though. Other than that everything is fine and dandy

 

[Rocket3015]

Backing off the Ralox, libido is still in the tank so to speak. Not sure why at this point though. Other than that everything is fine and dandy

PM @Chuck Diesel I'm sure he can help you out with the libido problem !!

 

[ChocolateClen]

Final recap:
Everything is back to normal, libido is good.

Weight:193lbs
Body fat: 12% (down from roughly 18%)
Bench Press: estimated 1 RM off a 3 rep lift: 295

Might possibly break 300-310 by July but I don’t know if I’ll make 315.

Big things to note: I finally have a 6 pack, my legs are finally filling out from this cycle. Had to buy bigger pants. Lat Pulldown went way tf up, at 205lbs for 8 controlled reps, 215 if I get a bit sloppy with it.

Hair loss on cycle: significant shedding in the head, hasn’t grown back. RIP hair

Sleep didn’t change on cycle.

Pretty happy keeping 15 lbs of lean muscle. I can def see it in my arms and chest.

 

[Rocket3015]

Everything (except the hair) sounds like it is going well !

 

[ChocolateClen]

Everything (except the hair) sounds like it is going well !

Tis a damn shame but such is life I guess

 

[Jeremyk1]

Tis a damn shame but such is life I guess

Sounds like your body probably looks good enough, girls won’t even notice the hair.

 

[Jeremyk1]

Tis a damn shame but such is life I guess

Sounds like your body probably looks good enough, girls won’t even notice the hair.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Sounds like your body probably looks good enough, girls won’t even notice the hair.

I’d say I’m probably a 6/10. Slightly better than average lol

 

[Rocket3015]

The Rock does OK with no hair !!

 

[Jeremyk1]

I’d say I’m probably a 6/10. Slightly better than average lol

Well, I haven’t seen you, but with a 300 bench and 12% body fat, I have a feeling you aren’t giving yourself enough credit.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Well, I haven’t seen you, but with a 300 bench and 12% body fat, I have a feeling you aren’t giving yourself enough credit.

I guarantee that if I put a picture of me up you’d be like wtf, This guy benches 300? I’m small lol I don’t know why but I can still wear medium shirts and they don’t look like schmediums

 

[Hyde]

Sorry about the shedding. Glad you have kept some nice gains from this cycle at least

 

[ChocolateClen]

Sorry about the shedding. Glad you have kept some nice gains from this cycle at least

It happens man, one of the risks we take when using the stuff. I’ll probably stay away from DHT derivatives such as this cycle in the future sad I didn’t get to run 6 weeks though