CEL P-Plex and M-Drol "The Stack"

[ugasoccer22]

Hooah. New to the boards. I dont have much time on my hands but I have a few hours a day dedicated to personal fitness. However, over the years I have been trained to the level of a marathon runner, comprised of extreme endurance with moderate to low explosive power. I ran two cycles in my past, many years ago. One cycle was the LG Methyl 1 Test and months later I ran a cycle of Methyl 1 Alpha. Good experiences with both, controlled side effects, lean gains, etc.

I work very close with Ex sci graduates and pt's all the like, however, I have always felt the true information comes from experience and not books. That brings me here. Bull**** aside, I am 27, 6'1", 170lbs, 9%BF. I need advice on dosages (as the recommended dosages are too low), PCT and stacking. I am starting with pplex, then stacking and finishing with mdrol (as well as milk thistle and ryr). I have formadrol extreme and nolvadex xt for PCT. (I have already stated my pre-cycle supplementation).

specific questions are as follows.

1. Recommended dosages for pplex (weeks 1 & 2).
2. Recommended stacking dosages for pplex and mdrol (weeks 3 & 4).
3. Recommended dosages for mdrol (week 5 & 6)
4. Time frame of when to start PCT, as well as what to PCT with.

I have written down the answers a few trainers suggested, as well as my personal doctor and one of the unit psychologists. Im trying to contrast and compare with the real pro's, and thats where you boys come in.

 

[Grambo]

Recommendations: Do not stack these products, that is for advanced only (some will say just don't at all). They are basically the two most powerful legal steriods on the market and are both methylated. You don't have enough experience from what I can see form your post (not a shot at you just truth).

Formadrol and Nolvedex XT is NOT proper PCT. Stick around and read up a little more before you start another cycle. I promise you will be more informed and happier.

 

[Grambo]

Id be happy to help ya out in anyway I can though. Not someone who says "Don't do that" and doesn't come back lol

 

[ugasoccer22]

haha yeah a couple of the fellas down here said that same thing. harsh. but, what PCT would you recommend?

 

[elementrip]

Agreed in regards to Grambo's comments. However its not to say after a little further research that you couldnt run one or the other standalone... Why stack two entirely new compounds, learn the gains of each individually first man. These compounds dont dissapoint!
That being said i'd recommend going a bit more hardcore on your PCT than OTC stuff personally. Granted not always the easiest thing at first but if you can get your hands on some Torem you're golden my friend!!

 

[TravisG]

im on it right now and it is harsh. worth it but hardcore. your pct has to be top notch.

mine will be as follows:

Nolvadex
Clomid
Test Booster
Creatine
Liver Cleanser

I wouldnt run anything less after a cycle like this.

 

[texastweeter]

I for one have ran that stack many many times in many many variations and at high doseages. THe only negative sides I got were lethargy and back pumps. I use tamox cit for pct. I would actually suggest trying they exact dosages/schedule they reccoment for your first run of it, and then use tamox cit as your serc for pct at 40/40/30/20. Again this is MY opnion on the matter any your mileage may vary.

 

[UnrealMachine]

I guess I am curious why you are doing this cycle at all. As a marathon runner, Superdrol stacked with Phera isn't going to be very helpful. In terms of bulking, at 6'1 170 you don't really need steroids, just increase your calories, and i bet you start gaining LBM instantly...

 

[BUCKNUTS]

I guess I am curious why you are doing this cycle at all. As a marathon runner, Superdrol stacked with Phera isn't going to be very helpful. In terms of bulking, at 6'1 170 you don't really need steroids, just increase your calories, and i bet you start gaining LBM instantly...

OP that's sage wisdom right there bro. Neither of those compounds will benefit you as a marathoner or are you no longer training for distance running? What is your goal for this cycle?

 

[Grambo]

I guess I am curious why you are doing this cycle at all. As a marathon runner, Superdrol stacked with Phera isn't going to be very helpful. In terms of bulking, at 6'1 170 you don't really need steroids, just increase your calories, and i bet you start gaining LBM instantly...

Agreed here....... If I was going to use anything it would be 1,4-Bold.... EQ is the shiz for athletics.

 

[BUCKNUTS]

Agreed here....... If I was going to use anything it would be 1,4-Bold.... EQ is the shiz for athletics.

If I run around the corner on P-Plex I need someone to give me a ride back that stuff kills my endurance, but it imparts crazy strength as well so well worth the trade off. Where would I need to run to anyways?