In order to gain weight, you have to consume more calories than you burn off. So, you need to be eating a solid diet of mostly real food (you can have the weight gainer for breakfast or post workout) and have a good exercise routine.
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You're wrong. Some natural anabolics actually work . I've had amazing success with epicatechin for exampleBoth of those look like absolute garbage products that are nothing but gimmicks with ingredients. There are no magic pills that make you gain weight. You have to eat more calories, lift heavy doing compound lifts, drink plenty of water and get plenty of sleep.
Trust me, I've been reviewing supplements for 20+ years and I wouldn't waste my money on either of these products. Supplement companies are always coming out with these magic herbs, amino acids, and other nonsense concoctions that claim will make you gain weight. I can tell you right now it's all phoney baloney.
Get yourself a good weight gainer, like Beverly International Ultra Mass Maker. It's a great product that will put on quality weight and not a lot of fat because there aren't a lot of junk ingredients like most weight gainer shakes have. Most weight gainer shakes have weight protein concentrate, maltodextrin, and MCTs and they add nothing but fat to you. Beverly Ultra Mass Maker has real high quality protein, good carbs, and good fats to help you gain weight.
In order to gain weight, you have to consume more calories than you burn off. So, you need to be eating a solid diet of mostly real food (you can have the weight gainer for breakfast or post workout) and have a good exercise routine.
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No gimmicky supplements with a bunch of ingredients no one has heard of with no studies to back them up are going to do anything at all to add muscle mass, it's the hardest thing to do naturally, especially if you're an ectomorph like I was.
Don't believe the hype from these supplement companies.
I hope that helps, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
-SS
Epicatechin, an ingredient found in dark chocolate has been studied to see if it has positive benefits in muscle growth because it appears to be a myostatin inhibitor. A study looked at how much you would need to take to get those benefits.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24314870/Epicatechin, an ingredient found in dark chocolate has been studied to see if it has positive benefits in muscle growth because it appears to be a myostatin inhibitor. A study looked at how much you would need to take to get those benefits.
So, you have to ask yourself when you take these supplements that have studies showing they're completely ineffective: was it the supplement that was responsible for muscle growth or was it my training, diet, and the other supplements I was taking with it? Were you taking any other supplements along side it or just epicatechin. I'd be willing to bet you were on other supplements on the time as well.
So, as my friend Will Brink likes to say: Welcome to Placeboville. Population: You.
Unfortunately that appears to be an in vitro study done on rat's skeletal muscle and not resistant trained humans, so it may be a good starting point to look at what it can potentially do, but in vitro rat studies don't really tell us much.
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Definitely agreed on this one. Can't beat an x gels and AE stack. Two of my fav natty products at the moment.I love both. Slide edge to AE imo. The x gel/ae stack is a killer natty stack.
What is all this stuff and where are the studies showing they're effective at doing anything? You've got to be kidding me with this.
It's a very simple scientific fact. You simply need to eat more calories than you burn off. That's how anabolism and hypertrophy work. You can take your magic herb blend and sprinkle it on your salad and it might be pretty tastey, but building muscle? Show me the evidence.
thats not the point .. he asked a comparison between the 2 product .. not looking for a mass gainer/meal replacement or extra calories
Maybe you missed the other part of my post where I recommended standard, known, working, and well studied supplements like creatine, beta alanine and citrulline.
Are you sure about that? If people are asking about gimmicky/phoney products, I'd suspect that they are not following proper bodybuilding protocols such as proper lifting and diet.
Let's look at some of the ingredients together, shall we?.
Agree .. AE + Epiplex is very nice run
Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you
Like I said, I'm done here. I'm not going to get banned because a sponsor disagrees with me. My post with what I consider sound advice is up there for anyone to read.
I have no idea. I just run the links I find with the cheapest prices I can find through bitly and paste them here. A lot of those links, especially Amazon, have all sorts of indecipherable codes after them.
It's ironic that you can take the time to post all sorts of negative things and post a book on promoting Beverly's products but you can't take the time to google the ingredients in a product to see that there are a wide variety of clinical studies on them. Yet you can make negative comments implying the ingredients don't do anything when a simple google search of the ingredients would have shown you a large list of clinical studies.
My post literally said that I wasn't going to get into the argument going in this thread and then I proceeded to answer the OP's question.
Like admin/mod said - if you don't like a product, don't use it. But it's very disrespectful to companies and to people posting questions to come into threads and derail those threads to make them be about something that wasn't being asked about or discussed.
Again, if you truly like the brands, then I would encourage you to look at the wide variety of logs and reviews by very respected board members on Anabolic Effect and to look into the ingredients and the studies on them. Many of these studies can be found at links of the respective branded ingredients websites.
Thank you for the apology, I do appreciate it. PM coming your way.
Apology not accepted. I has to read all that bullshit to get to here, and you wasted my fucking time, lol. Check it: this isn't 2006 anymore, Rip van Winkle, and we've mostly all been here years. Most here have probably been training longer than you, and don't give a **** that you and Brink 'menage a two' on twitter. If someone is in here asking for advice on this product or that one, he's nor ignorant, or ACTUALLY meaning to ask for diet and training advice. He's asking about the fuggin products. If he wanted diet or training advice, he'd mosey on over to those respective forums. Lol, Mass Gainer, just eat food; it's delicious and better for you. And have fun experimenting with supps if you wish, it's safer than sarms or prohormones.....
In 2020? Nah.
Starscream is full of bad advice
Starscream is full of bad advice. Erroneous contradictory nonsense
AE is legit one of the best natural muscle builder imo
I have thread somewhere for deals on sns/cel
