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Can I stop taking one compound of a PH stack mid cycle?

Ybriknevets

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I have tried searching for the answer to this question high and low but I can't find the answer so I'm just going to go ahead and ask:

I have been running a cycle of Trenazone (transdermal dienalone) alongside Epistane which I introduced at the end of the second week. It was my intention to run the cycle for a total of 4 weeks then begin my PCT. I ordered some Tamoxifen Citrate from an online pharmacy about 2 weeks before I started my cycle only shipping has taken far longer than stated (I know it's daft to start a cycle without a SERM on hand but I figured my PCT would have arrived sooner). I took my last dosage of Trenazone today but I don't want to end the cycle without a proper PCT. My question is, can I up the dosage of Epi in place of the Trenazone, so that I effectively have the same amount of androgen in my system thus negate any sides, whilst I wait (another week according to the pharmacy) for the Tamoxifen? If so what dosage of Epi would replace the trenazone?

My dosing so far looks like this:

Trenazone: 37.5mg tapered up to 75mg over the first week / 75mg for week 2 / 75mg tapered up to 112.5mg for week 3 / 112.5mg for week 4

Epistane: 0/last 3 days of week 2 20mg/40mg/40mg

So far I have had no harsh sides, libido still intact, the boys are a little smaller but I'm not shut down. As for gyno I've had a little extra subcutaneous fat storage on my chest probably due to the Trenazone (I hear Dienolone is a progestin therefore causes some prolactin sides, I've been taking L-dopa for this) but no lumps lactation or tenderness (Aside from what is caused by putting eviscerate on my chest, feels like i sprayed about 6 cans of Deep Heat point blank on each nipple! Yowzer!).

So could I add a 5th week running the Epi solo at say 80mg (120mg is the upper limit according to the label) or is this endocrine suicide!?
 
40mg of epistane is still more overall in terms of androgen than you naturally produce, so thats fine to stick with. And don't kid yourself about beign shut down. You are, but the external androgens have you feeling good still. shrinkage and subjective feelings aren't important, on most androgens after 2-3 weeks you are pretty well shut down.
 
Thanks for the responses folks. Luckily my Nolvadex had arrived when I got home yesterday. However since I've started another week I'm gonna finish it, seeing as the general concensus is that it's gravy! Plus I have my SERM now so I have a crutch if I do get into trouble.

I upped the dose of epi since I hadn't seen these responses until almost the end of the day here. I'm using IBE's which comes in 20mg dosages so hitting 50 is impossible. I took 80mg over the course of the day 40 upon waking and 20 an hour before I trained during my lunch hour at work and 20 with my evening meal. I perhaps should have just taken one cap in the morning but at the time I was concerned that I needed a comparable dosage to the Trenazone. But I suppose I only have so many androgen receptors right? So going above a certain dosage (50mg in this case) won't produce better results? So would it be beneficial, in terms of sides, to drop the dosage back to 60mg for the remainder of the cycle to avoid making my overall shutdown/testicular artophy worse or am I just splitting hairs now?

I realise I will be shut down to some degree, I'm just comparing testical size and how I feel to my previous cycles. Comparing this to the end of my H-Drol cycle the boys are fuller and my energy levels and general wellbeing are better. Obviously the real proof will come when I stop taking the exogenous androgens. Mind you I used Esto Suppress for my last PCT and that could be anything. According to what I've read on some boards, it might not even be a SERM, so I'm more confident about my recovery this time with the real deal.

One final question, I'm looking at adding a natty test booster to my PCT alongside the SERM, maybe something with bulbene natalensis in since I would like to try it, anyone had good results with that compound and can anyone suggest a good product?
 
Epistane does not come in 20mg caps fyi....they are 10mg

If you look at the back of the bottle it will say

Serving size-2 caps
Amount per serving-20mg


So you may be dosing less EPI than you think...
 
What Rick said. You took 40 mg, which is a decent dose. You don't need to compensate for the tren with extra epi. I would ride it out at 40.
 
Dang! You're correct! I could have bought a clone for around the same price that came in 120s instead of 90 caps! ****! I thought that was the amount per cap, not per serving. Oh well, you live you learn. At least I ain't been overdoing the epi then. I'll stick to 4 caps a day for the remainder of the cycle then since that seems to be the sweet spot. Thanks once again for the advice peeps.

Any thoughts on a decent natty test booster, or am I just wasting my money on snake oil with that ****?
 
Its all good bro. You are taking what is considered the sweet spot for EPI anyways.. (40mg)
 
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