Calling all Sup Companies - make a REAL test booster

xtraflossy

xtraflossy

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Here we go with something new. No, it's not a company giving away product X for the masses, but a simple question I propose.
For years, we have had DAA. For years, we have had Test freeing agents.

Why you no put 2 together!!!!!!!!!!?

Ok, ok, I get it. We will buy 2 bottles of X+Y to get the same combo.
I challenge you to be the first (for the love of god, really now) to do this.

I honestly can not beleive this hasn't been "demanded" already.

It's just logical. RAISE test, Free it! Put an AI to make it last. Really!? I'm the only one with this idea!?

To go above and beyond the call, simple DAA/AI/ Free my test dangit supplement. Thats what I'd make for a natty test booster AND for all PCT. No one has cashed in on this yet?

Winner of this promotion gets my business, and the business of all like minded consumers like myself.
To be fair, I'm a little buzzed, and pissed off, and REALLY let down. There WAS a product like this, disscontinued. One more has some crazy NO combo in it throwing everything off..



Who says this forum can't be used to put companies up to a challenge.

(I'm sorry, as a consumer, I am very disapointed that this isn't a bread and butter combo for many of ya'll. I can not fathom that I am the only one who desires such a product

I could go on how maybe I should just go make my own, or buy 2-3 bottles to create this stack but the simple fact remains this is the MOST logical conclussion there is when it comes to test boosting I can not beleive it's not around.

tl:dr; I'm a bit buzzed and really let down. I'm venting, but really hoping someone comes to their senses

**This place, AM.com used to be the pinnacle of bodybuilding supplements and research. If there is no company willing to sell 1 complete product when they could sell 2 separate ones then this place has gone too commercial, and I'd be just as well off visiting another forum / store.
I will take my ban from the site as a confirmation of my perceptions, and just accept if I want something done, perhaps I should do it my self.
..... Upcoming, "Flossy" supplements
 
why not just use custom capsule and make your own formula with all 3 of those in it, at half the price...

3g DAA
1200mg 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran
800mg mucuna pruriens
400mg grape seed extract
100mg DIM
 
wannabebig25 said:
why not just use custom capsule and make your own formula with all 3 of those in it, at half the price...
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Why not just have ALL the comapnies we have here, at AM do the freaking obvious?

I feel like I lack the vocabulary right now, but your really telling me your satisfied with NO companies doing the most basic and obvious thing out there when it comes to test boosting, that you'll resign yourself to doing it yourself??

Did you not read the part about AM being the pinnacle of...
I'm sorry, but I have loved this place off and on for over 10 years now. I have never been so disappointed in the "technology" of current supplement companies here then I am now
 
xtraflossy said:
I feel like I lack the vocabulary right now, but your really telling me your satisfied with NO companies doing the most basic and obvious thing out there when it comes to test boosting, that you'll resign yourself to doing it yourself??
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yes 100% satisfied with combining my own supplements. i would rather take 10 different pills from 10 different bottles and know exactly what im putting in my body instead of these bull**** proprietary blends on the market these days with 5% of active product and 95% of cheap bull**** fillers.
 
A. No one would buy the product because it would be too expensive (Case in point = Core Test)
B. Companies want to release multiple products.
 
wannabebig25 said:
why would they combine all 3 in one product that sells at $60 when they can sell you 3 products at $50 each?

the supplement business is all about $$$$$$
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THAT sir, IS my point.

If one company did just that, I wouldn't buy 3 products from other companies. I'd buy just that one, reccomend it to everyone, and so would everyone else.
After all, wouldn't you buy the ONLY all-in-one product for $60 then buy 3 seperate ones for more?
I'd wager that that alone, would take business from everyone else (unless there is some secret conspiracy going on that they won't talk about lol).


I am ashamed at all of you! Instead of holding companies to a certain standard, you coward behing the possibility of being sent a freee bottle of product X for your next log.


Every one who has posted has missed my point. Go ahead and tell my , with a straight face that this isn't the most logical test boosting supplement combination, and then tell me why it isn't made yet.
 
wannabebig25 said:
yes 100% satisfied with combining my own supplements. i would rather take 10 different pills from 10 different bottles and know exactly what im putting in my body instead of these bull**** proprietary blends on the market these days with 5% of active product and 95% of cheap bull**** fillers.
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missing the point. I'm not talking about a bunch of BS slapped into a pill. I'm talking a PROVEN, 3 ingreidants.
If your buying blends that you have no clue whow effective the doeses are and how much of what is in it, well, your doing it wrong, and THEY are doing YOU wrong.
 
Did you read my post? Look up core test. Now tell me why you've never heard of it before. Answer: price. Supplements that cost that much won't catch on, generally.
 
Let me repost my 2 main points:

1) I could go on how maybe I should just go make my own, or buy 2-3 bottles to create this stack but the simple fact remains this is the MOST logical conclussion there is when it comes to test boosting I can not beleive it's not around.

2) **This place, AM.com used to be the pinnacle of bodybuilding supplements and research.

Defend all you want - It doesn't make me any less dissapointed in this industry on this board


 
mr.cooper69 said:
Did you read my post? Look up core test. Now tell me why you've never heard of it before. Answer: price. Supplements that cost that much won't catch on, generally.
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Sorry, I don't buy the argument that one product didn't do well , and your assumption that it was based on price (not time of release, competing products and other factors)
 
Why are you so mad? Relax dude. They're testosterone boosters. It's not a huge market to begin with, and the fact that you're getting this worked up makes me wonder if extra testosterone is really what you need right now.
 
wannabebig25 said:
yes 100% satisfied with combining my own supplements. i would rather take 10 different pills from 10 different bottles and know exactly what im putting in my body instead of these bull**** proprietary blends on the market these days with 5% of active product and 95% of cheap bull**** fillers.
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must say this is soo true,

having seperate products allows companies to allow customers to customize their results.
I for one can not run an AI until my last 4 weeks until my show although im running testobolan v2 and Intimidate.
if it were an all in one product I couldnt do so.

Making all in one products actually LIMITS sales rather than increasing them,
 
JN230 said:
must say this is soo true,

having seperate products allows companies to allow customers to customize their results.
I for one can not run an AI until my last 4 weeks until my show although im running testobolan v2 and Intimidate.
if it were an all in one product I couldnt do so.

Making all in one products actually LIMITS sales rather than increasing them,
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Well in your case, it limits. In mine, well I havent bought anything becasue I'm looking for something more then the status quo.

Consider at LEAST.
DAA (sns DAA = $20) + something to free test (another $20). ONly $40.
Do you see that?
How many products do you see containing those two? ..show me one and Ill slap my creadit card down

Fine, continue to buy 3 seperate products for your needs, that doesn't mean others don't have different needs then yourself
 
xtraflossy said:
THAT sir, IS my point.

If one company did just that, I wouldn't buy 3 products from other companies. I'd buy just that one, reccomend it to everyone, and so would everyone else.
After all, wouldn't you buy the ONLY all-in-one product for $60 then buy 3 seperate ones for more?
I'd wager that that alone, would take business from everyone else (unless there is some secret conspiracy going on that they won't talk about lol).


I am ashamed at all of you! Instead of holding companies to a certain standard, you coward behing the possibility of being sent a freee bottle of product X for your next log.


Every one who has posted has missed my point. Go ahead and tell my , with a straight face that this isn't the most logical test boosting supplement combination, and then tell me why it isn't made yet.
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of course YOU would buy an all in one wonder supplement for $60. but how would that benefit the SUPPLEMENT PRODUCER? they are out to make money and that is all. they dont care whether or not you want x+y+z all in one pill for convenience at the cost of their income.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Why are you so mad? Relax dude. They're testosterone boosters. It's not a huge market to begin with, and the fact that you're getting this worked up makes me wonder if extra testosterone is really what you need right now.
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I started looking for a decent pct product, and realized there were none that fit my needs. I've searched for 2 weeks., I'm dissapointed, this is a forum, it's half of what it's purpose is.
 
wannabebig25 said:
of course YOU would buy an all in one wonder supplement for $60. but how would that benefit the SUPPLEMENT PRODUCER? they are out to make money and that is all. they dont care whether or not you want x+y+z all in one pill for convenience at the cost of their income.
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Fine man. You'll get a free bottle of something for being so "pro industry". When do CONSUMER needs come in to question?

Don'y you remember time when companies would ask YOU what you wanted? You've been here long enough
 
wannabebig25 said:
why would they combine all 3 in one product that sells at $60 when they can sell you 3 products at $50 each?

the supplement business is all about $$$$$$
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THIS! And the mind boggles that people honestly still believe herbal test "boosters" provide any meaningful gains whatsoever. They are garbage.
 
ProteinMurder said:
THIS! And the mind boggles that people honestly still believe herbal test "boosters" provide any meaningful gains whatsoever. They are garbage.
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if you have proven low testosterone from bloodwork like i do, herbal test boosters make a world of a difference. for the average guy with average T levels though, i cant see them helping.
 
xtraflossy said:
Fine man. You'll get a free bottle of something for being so "pro industry". When do CONSUMER needs come in to question?

Don'y you remember time when companies would ask YOU what you wanted? You've been here long enough
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im far from pro industry. i think all the supplements out these days are way overpriced. yea there are some good ones, but the majority suck and are underdosed and overpriced. ive only used a few that i can actually say yea they work and im willing to pay for them. consumers' needs? no such thing.
 
ProteinMurder said:
THIS! And the mind boggles that people honestly still believe herbal test "boosters" provide any meaningful gains whatsoever. They are garbage.
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Compaired to what? ASS? NO? lol

Do not forget that a signifficant amount of the test boosters are directly marketed as pct products. So pct is worthless?
Not to mention , they are garbage, becasue most of them are incomplete... kinda the point of my topic ya know
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Why are you so mad? Relax dude. They're testosterone boosters. It's not a huge market to begin with, and the fact that you're getting this worked up makes me wonder if extra testosterone is really what you need right now.
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hahahaha I just laughed and my head hurt after reading this.
 
there are a few products that contain a test booster and divanil....testopro? most probably don't have an AI in them, and if you want DAA added in you can't really get any cheaper than DAA. It is a PITA to buy everything separate....but its actually better since you can use these products when you want due to being separate. you may want to start one of them in week 2 of PCT, others you may want to start straightaway, maybe you don't want to run a AI, etc etc....in this way you can manage what you take and when you take it.
 
xtraflossy said:
Compaired to what? ASS? NO? lol

Do not forget that a signifficant amount of the test boosters are directly marketed as pct products. So pct is worthless?
Not to mention , they are garbage, becasue most of them are incomplete... kinda the point of my topic ya know
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Come on, how many AAS users you know that trust their PCT to herbal "boosters"? please. And of course PCT is not worthless, when did I say or even imply that? But I doubt people will be throwing the Nolva/chlomid etc in the bin for herbs anytime soon. They are overpriced under performing supplements, that, at best, give a slight mental edge and/or placebo effect. And everyone knows if these companies had to prove these "Boosters" do as claimed tomorrow.....they'd all be out of business. Anyhoo, Im out :D
 
wannabebig25 said:
if you have proven low testosterone from bloodwork like i do, herbal test boosters make a world of a difference. for the average guy with average T levels though, i cant see them helping.
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Yeah, I agree with you there mate. I am more referring to the average guy that thinks the next chopped up plant from the mysterious mountains of Pakistan will actually add LBM to his frame. absurd.
 
DS activate xtreme claims to increase both total and free test... but they also have their separate AI product of course, triazole. Both are great products IMO
 
bigdavid said:
DS activate xtreme claims to increase both total and free test... but they also have their separate AI product of course, triazole. Both are great products IMO
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great products btw. now OP, imagine DS combined them into one product and sold it at $79.99 per bottle. would you buy it? i know i would. but what if somebody doesnt want an AI and just wants a test booster, or has high estrogen and just wants an AI and no test booster, then DS is limiting their market and losing sales.

im not arguing with you here, i agree there should be all in one products to save us $$$, but it wouldnt work in favour of the supplement companies and thats why it hasnt been done.
 
You can get the Erase + Endosurge stack from Nutraplanet for 39.99$
 
Unless it would be powdered, it would be a bitch to get 3g of DAA, an effective dose of macuna, nettle extract, etc. into caps without it being a 12 cap dose.
 
Rodja said:
Unless it would be powdered, it would be a bitch to get 3g of DAA, an effective dose of macuna, nettle extract, etc. into caps without it being a 12 cap dose.
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good point. i just plugged it all in at custom capsule and its a 10 cap serving lol. id say 5 caps AM and 5 caps PM. so not a bad dosage size.

in case OP is interested, 30 servings for $54.06.
 
Easy, you have division 1, you need a drink to swallow the pill, you put 1 scoop of Formula-X in that drink. Bam! 3,4 Divianl and DAA/LCLT:) The magic combo your looking for lol

Rodja said:
Unless it would be powdered, it would be a bitch to get 3g of DAA, an effective dose of macuna, nettle extract, etc. into caps without it being a 12 cap dose.
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Thats what I was thinking.
 
So much banter over a class of supplements that basically produce no bodybuilding results... (just throwing some gas on the fire :) )
 
GodofWine said:
So much banter over a class of supplements that basically produce no bodybuilding results... (just throwing some gas on the fire :) )
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Off topic, but do you take your name from a Third Eye Blind song?

On topic: I don't see what "the forum" has to do with what supplement companies do. They are businesses and they want to make the most money possible.
 
As Cooper said, Core Test is expensive for a reason.

It's a pretty damn complete formula for a test booster.
 
How about powerlabs pct2 ?
 
Not to mention do you know how big those pills would be to have everything in it. You'd be taking like 12 orange triad equivalent pills a serving. Size/Space wise you'd save nothing. All you'd save is not having different bottles, you'd just have one super large bottle. Also I agree, I don't want supplement companies making me take all those pills and it be a prop blend. I've already seen enough companies throwing underdosed supplements in their pills.. DAA is a big example, half the pills that slap DAA in it, the DAA is very underdosed.

AM are some of the brightest body builders, that is why we like to choose and know what we put in our bodies. We don't need companies to tell us what we need in an all in one pill. We make our own stacks and we take the products we want.
 
Geoforce said:
Off topic, but do you take your name from a Third Eye Blind song?

On topic: I don't see what "the forum" has to do with what supplement companies do. They are businesses and they want to make the most money possible.
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god, I hate to post an "old" rant topic, but companies PAY money to have ads on AM (not the google ones, but a board presense). They pay money to place product on Nutraplanet.
You DO realize Nutraplanet has long been the "official" supplement outlet for these forums, and I remember the day that was announced.
All this caters and advertises to members of AM.com. I'd say it has PLENTY to do with "the forum"


OK. I get everyone CAN make an argument why buying 3 bottles would be better then buying just one. But there are people out there , like myself who would just like 1, balanced, proper proven test/pct product available.
For some, It's damn hard to take a break out in the field while digging trenches and hauling lumber to swallow 15 pills just to get some daa, a decent AI and a little something to free test.

Sure, I get it, you have all this flexibility to do what you wish for what you want, don't want. There are dozens of products to cater to your specific needs. ...to your specific needs. to YOUR needs (get it?)
There are other people out there with other needs.

I have no desire to drag this out any longer, as I honestly I can't beleive I'm defending something so damn simple.

Heck, I had a hard enough time finding a simple AI with something to free test let alone a 3 compound product.
 
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