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BULK-UP

So would the Bulk-Up be a good base for SD as well then?
Yeah, it's probably one of the best products out there for that purpose except injectable test or mast of course. It combines both 4-DHEA (test precursor) and epiandrosterone (DHT precursor) so it will be great base for any cycle, especially harsher ones.
 
Yeah, it's probably one of the best products out there for that purpose except injectable test or mast of course. It combines both 4-DHEA (test precursor) and epiandrosterone (DHT precursor) so it will be great base for any cycle, especially harsher ones.

Exactly the only downfall is price. Paying almost 40+ a week not counting the compound your stacking it with plus supports and pct
 
Yeah, it's probably one of the best products out there for that purpose except injectable test or mast of course. It combines both 4-DHEA (test precursor) and epiandrosterone (DHT precursor) so it will be great base for any cycle, especially harsher ones.

Thanks for the reply! Reps!

Exactly the only downfall is price. Paying almost 40+ a week not counting the compound your stacking it with plus supports and pct

Yea, the cost is pretty high... Might be worth it though if it makes for a much better cycle.


Would it be best to start the Bulk up before the SD and run it after the SD is done? Or just start the bulk-up early and then end both at the same time?
 
Thanks for the reply! Reps!



Yea, the cost is pretty high... Might be worth it though if it makes for a much better cycle.


Would it be best to start the Bulk up before the SD and run it after the SD is done? Or just start the bulk-up early and then end both at the same time?
I'd start Bulk-up a week before SD to give it some time to kick in. And you could continue it after SD to stabilize those gains.
 
I'd start Bulk-up a week before SD to give it some time to kick in. And you could continue it after SD to stabilize those gains.

Ok, I just wasnt sure if it would be ok to run the Bulk-up after the SD considering how much stronger the SD is. I thought maybe the bulk-up wouldnt be enough to solidify the gains. Maybe it would be a good idea to bump up the dose of bulk-up once the SD is done?
 
I'd start Bulk-up a week before SD to give it some time to kick in. And you could continue it after SD to stabilize those gains.

Agree with this. Assuming your running SD 4 weeks grab 2 BU and start one week prior and finish out BU solo for one week then go into PCT.

week 1 BU
week 2-5 BU+SD
week 6 BU
PCT
 
Ok, I just wasnt sure if it would be ok to run the Bulk-up after the SD considering how much stronger the SD is. I thought maybe the bulk-up wouldnt be enough to solidify the gains. Maybe it would be a good idea to bump up the dose of bulk-up once the SD is done?

It will definitely be enough. Consider it like this instead of going right from SD to PCT you have 1 more week on BU which is obviously stronger than a PCT product allowing you 1 more week of gains before you roll into PCT.
 
N.Woods Giant said:
Thanks for the reply! Reps!

Yea, the cost is pretty high... Might be worth it though if it makes for a much better cycle.

Would it be best to start the Bulk up before the SD and run it after the SD is done? Or just start the bulk-up early and then end both at the same time?

Couldn't you just run stano for way cheaper?
 
Couldn't you just run stano for way cheaper?
Stano has just DHT precursor in it, Bulk-up has also testosterone precursor (4-DHEA). Stano is not very anabolic so it wouldn't add much to your cycle in terms of gains but 4-DHEA in Bulk-up would help you gain even more.
 
Personally if one could afford to I would run the Bulk-Up for an additional 4 weeks post Ultradrol/Superdrol or whatever methyl you choose. Personally I feel 4 weeks will allow far more of the gains to "solidify." You could also run DAA during those 4 weeks with the Bulk-Up and make PCT even easier.
 
Personally if one could afford to I would run the Bulk-Up for an additional 4 weeks post Ultradrol/Superdrol or whatever methyl you choose. Personally I feel 4 weeks will allow far more of the gains to "solidify." You could also run DAA during those 4 weeks with the Bulk-Up and make PCT even easier.

i'd even go as far as bridging the two....like sd for 3 weeks and on the third week combing the bulk up, like u said to solidify the gains

with something like sd, you'll add a lot of weight in a quick period of time making it difficult to keep the gains...briding to another compound at the end will help add more gains but over an extended period of time, should help keep more of the gains
 
i'd even go as far as bridging the two....like sd for 3 weeks and on the third week combing the bulk up, like u said to solidify the gains

with something like sd, you'll add a lot of weight in a quick period of time making it difficult to keep the gains...briding to another compound at the end will help add more gains but over an extended period of time, should help keep more of the gains

I am of the opinion that the longer the better when it comes to retaining your gains. If you add 15lbs in three weeks on SD and then go right into PCT, ie. you drop your androgen levels for a few weeks while you wait to restart your HTPA there is a huge chance that your going to loose some of those 15lbs. Your body never had a chance to get used to being a certain weight. The longer you can sit at that new weight the better. Adding in Bulk-Up for at least 4 weeks will help you hold those gains far better IMO. I have always been more successful when I was on for longer when it came to retaining the muscle gained.
 
I am of the opinion that the longer the better when it comes to retaining your gains. If you add 15lbs in three weeks on SD and then go right into PCT, ie. you drop your androgen levels for a few weeks while you wait to restart your HTPA there is a huge chance that your going to loose some of those 15lbs. Your body never had a chance to get used to being a certain weight. The longer you can sit at that new weight the better. Adding in Bulk-Up for at least 4 weeks will help you hold those gains far better IMO. I have always been more successful when I was on for longer when it came to retaining the muscle gained.

we're on the same page with this one then....i totally agree
 
Anyone that has ever reset there bodys "set point" will tell you the key is time. If you bulk up and stay at that new weight for a short period of time you will have a hard time maintaining that new set point. My body used to be set at 200, then I spent a long time and it became 220. I recently took over a year off of training due to some health issues but the whole time I was off of everything my body weight never dropped below 240(my current set point.) I would be hard pressed to drop below 240 now without a concerted effort. It took spending 2 years at 240 to make it set. I used to feel terrible at 240, out of breath and unhealthy feeling. Now after spending time at that new weight I feel great. I never get out of breath like I used to and have adjusted to the new weight.

So what am I driving at? Well gaining 15-20lbs in three weeks is going to be very hard to maintain as your body never gets accustomed to it. Problem is the compounds that put that weight on you so quick are too harsh to run for any decent length of time. Answer to the dilemma? A solid non methyl that can be ran for longer than 3-4 weeks ie Bulk-Up, P-BOLD and so on. Look at traditional cycles very few people run them for 3-4 weeks. You see many more 12-16 weeks set ups. There is a reason for this.
 
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Yea, unsponsered logs.
We may have a unsponsored log of BULK-UP/P-BOLD stack soon. I know one person who is gonna buy 1 bottle of BULK-UP and 2 of P-BOLD and he might be willing to log it.
 
I too would like to see these and hopefully we will see more.



Keep at him it would be nice and clearly people are looking to see these. Keep me updated please.
Now that P-BOLD is out of stock, he decided to buy two bottles of BULK-UP instead! Hopefully we'll see a log..
 
Now that P-BOLD is out of stock, he decided to buy two bottles of BULK-UP instead! Hopefully we'll see a log..


I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.
 
I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.

i agree...stacking is fun, but it's always good to get a base as to what each product does individually first

stacking two products that u've never tried, if you start getting sides, it's hard to tell what product is causing them
 
i agree...stacking is fun, but it's always good to get a base as to what each product does individually first

stacking two products that u've never tried, if you start getting sides, it's hard to tell what product is causing them


Don't get me wrong what we have here is a classic case of do as I say not as I do as I certainly have been guilty of stacking new products in the past. Sometime we get so eager to make gains that we forget this is a marathon not a sprint.

When I run my stack I am thinking of running the first 4 weeks BULK-UP continued till the end of the cycle and running the P-BOLD after one month on BULK-UP. That should allow me time to tell whats what.
 
I know stacks are fun and all but I like seeing products ran one at a time most of the time. If he has never ran BULK-UP this might turn out to be better from an evidence standpoint. Plus with two bottles he will be running BULK-UP for a decent length of time.
Yeah, he was originally going to buy 1 bottle of BULK-UP and 2 of P-BOLD but now he'll go with 2 bottles of BULK-UP.
 
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bump for you research guys out there
 
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Haven't seen the profile but CPR is for on cycle or after cycle?

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Haven't seen the profile but CPR is for on cycle or after cycle?

-Purus Labs Rep
(Mobile Posting)

CPR is for on cycle protection. But judging from its profile, it would serve as a great general health support post cycle or any time too.
 
BULK-UP is non-methylated making it easy to stack with any cycle

Don't get me wrong what we have here is a classic case of do as I say not as I do as I certainly have been guilty of stacking new products in the past. Sometime we get so eager to make gains that we forget this is a marathon not a sprint.

When I run my stack I am thinking of running the first 4 weeks BULK-UP continued till the end of the cycle and running the P-BOLD after one month on BULK-UP. That should allow me time to tell whats what.

Also, we have some stacking info coming out for the whole line. The Elite Series and The Gorilla Series and how they stack together.

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If massive muscle gains is your #1 goal then MAX-BULK or BULK-UP + MUSCLE-UP will provide an unparalleled and massive transformation.

If lean muscle gains is your goal then MUSCLE-UP + LEAN-CUT is what you want.


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If fat loss (or weight loss) is your #1 goal then LEAN-CUT + FOCUS will provide an unparalleled transformation -- simply due to the extra activity-promoting and appetite suppressing effect of FOCUS.

If strength and aggression are the most important to you, then LEAN-CUT + MUSCLE-UP is the stack you want.

If massive muscle gain or is your goal then MAX-BULK or BULK-UP + MUSCLE-UP stacking is what you want

 
STACK IT for Massive Muscle Gains!

If massive muscle gains is your #1 goal then MAX-BULK or BULK-UP + MUSCLE-UP will provide an unparalleled and massive transformation.

If lean muscle gains is your goal then MUSCLE-UP + LEAN-CUT is what you want.


STACK IT for Fat Loss!


If fat loss (or weight loss) is your #1 goal then LEAN-CUT + FOCUS will provide an unparalleled transformation -- simply due to the extra activity-promoting and appetite suppressing effect of FOCUS.

If strength and aggression are the most important to you, then LEAN-CUT + MUSCLE-UP is the stack you want.

If massive muscle gain or is your goal then MAX-BULK or BULK-UP + MUSCLE-UP stacking is what you want


So...

When are these other products going to become available to us? I saw in another thread that FOCUS should go into production at the end of the month... Any update on that, since, you know, we are in the last days of the month now?

What is the ETA for MUSCLE-UP? If I understand, it is the AndroHARD clone. If so, I look forward to stacking it with FOCUS, but since my funds are limited, it would be helpful to have a timeframe for my budgeting purposes.
 
AndroHard only improved

Here's your answers.

Yes it is pretty close to AndroHard only improved. We are using the same compounds only stronger per liquid cap so there are less caps to take. Improved CP+R which is going to help with muscle recovery and hair growth/prostate health. We also improved the bio available and time release. We have been working on the new formulas for nearly a year now.

The time line for MUSCLE-UP is later than FOCUS and LEAN-CUT.

LEAN-CUT and FOCUS ARE ON SCHEDULE. Release is looking on or about Feb 14th. Just in time to start a 6 week pre Spring Break Cycle.

Stacking all AF products workS. We just posted up stacking guidelines on the website in the blog and in the products write ups.

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So...

When are these other products going to become available to us? I saw in another thread that FOCUS should go into production at the end of the month... Any update on that, since, you know, we are in the last days of the month now?

What is the ETA for MUSCLE-UP? If I understand, it is the AndroHARD clone. If so, I look forward to stacking it with FOCUS, but since my funds are limited, it would be helpful to have a timeframe for my budgeting purposes.
 
The DHT properties alone make Bulk-Up a great stacker.
I have actually erased gyno with the compound.
 
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That's the only way your going to get the code.
 
Superbowl stackers!!!! Biggest discount anywhere. Only lasts---- two days.

Get it while you can. Pre sales special just opened for LEAN-CUT and FOCUS. If you didn't get the email, you need to register on the main website Invalid Link Removed.

That's the only way you're going to get the code.

I know this is just a little internet forum where correct english just don't matter all that much, but grammar, punctuation, and spelling are still your friends when you want to appear professional.

Anyway, I have not received any email notice about FOCUS, and I should be registered since I got one of those BOGO 50% off sets of Bulk-Up last month. Have these notices already been sent out, or is this something that will happen in the next few days?
 
I know this is just a little internet forum where correct english just don't matter all that much, but grammar, punctuation, and spelling are still your friends when you want to appear professional.

Anyway, I have not received any email notice about FOCUS, and I should be registered since I got one of those BOGO 50% off sets of Bulk-Up last month. Have these notices already been sent out, or is this something that will happen in the next few days?

You should have used a semicolon between much and but.
 
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