Bodyconscious Epistane Cycle Log

Just seen this, def interested in the BC stuff, may order some in future. No before n afters??
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Yessir; apparently their products are produced by Dragon Nutrition, who had a great reputation from what I’ve heard. Inb4 back pumps and achy joints haha :[
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BC took over the production from Dragon Nutrition when they closed their business.
Same raws,same top quality, different bottles.
 
Day 7: Weighed 180lbs today. Ended up taking the day off to let my body get a break, but next week I’ll be back on schedule.
 
subbed... Can't believe I haven't seen this log yet. I've got BC SD on hand along with Havoc. Been torn on which one to go with on a clean bulk in a few weeks. Very interested in your run. Best of luck bro...
 
EMT803 said:
subbed... Can't believe I haven't seen this log yet. I've got BC SD on hand along with Havoc. Been torn on which one to go with on a clean bulk in a few weeks. Very interested in your run. Best of luck bro...
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I’d say go havoc if you want a lean bulk; assuming it’s real havoc that is. I wouldn’t trust any havoc not from predator because rpn produces it exclusively for them.
 
Day 8: Weighed 180.5lbs today. Managed to get a good back/bis/traps workout despite my ass turning into a volcano for the day hahah
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I’d say go havoc if you want a lean bulk; assuming it’s real havoc that is. I wouldn’t trust any havoc not from predator because rpn produces it exclusively for them.
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I agree and have pretty much decided on doing a lean bulk with the Havoc... which is made by RPN and ordered from Predator. Waiting on the second bottle now. Going to run it for six weeks stacked with Fusion's AndroTest. I am going to save the SD for a Test E kickstarter for late Spring I do believe.

Based on your before pic's, this should be a great run for you. Nice vascularity in your bicep and lean right out of the gate... I couldn't help but notice that you have an avocado for a head however haha
 
Day 9: Weighed 179 this morning. Trained chest/tris/delts but didn’t get a good workout due to lethargy. Not sure if the lethargy is from the epistane or not, but it’s definitely no fun.
 
TMloc said:
Dam bro..already 9 days in ,definitely no fun!!
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Not sure if it’s the epistane or not. I was seeing a hrt clinic that put me on test cyp for about 7 weeks then pulled the script; so that definitely could be a culprit. I’ll be ordering some test to cruise on towards the end of the cycle.
 
Yea man that sounds like mybe thats why your feeling that.I usually can tell the suppression that morning upon. Waking up right away, but once I hit the gym iam good then it'll hit me again at work.. But are you using a PW?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Not sure if it’s the epistane or not. I was seeing a hrt clinic that put me on test cyp for about 7 weeks then pulled the script; so that definitely could be a culprit. I’ll be ordering some test to cruise on towards the end of the cycle.
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Why in the world did they pull script from you that’s ridiculous
 
Day 10: Weighed 181lbs today. Trained legs. Started noticing a bit of nipple sensitivity; not sure if it’s just a coincidence or not, but if the issue doesn’t get any better I’ll start running either clomid+arimidex or exemestane. I have also been noticing that my muscles feel more full throughout the day.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 10: Weighed 181lbs today. Trained legs. Started noticing a bit of nipple sensitivity; not sure if it’s just a coincidence or not, but if the issue doesn’t get any better I’ll start running either clomid+arimidex or exemestane. I have also been noticing that my muscles feel more full throughout the day.
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As a precaution, I will be taking 40mg clomid and .1mg of arimidex daily until the nipple sensitivity calms down. I don’t have nolva or ralox, so I’ll have to use clomid for now. I don’t want to crush my estrogen, so that’s why I’m going to be trying this protocol for now. If the symptoms don’t subside, I’ll start exemestane 12.5mg eod.
 
My current blast and cruise is.

1-10 test e 750mg
2-8 dbol 10mg
11-12 test e 300mg
13-16 epistane 40mg every day.

I’m on week 14 now and am loving it. I feel better and look better than I did on 750mg of test and dbol. My goals was to bulk and then recomp in the same 16 week blast. And so far it’s been quite successful.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
As a precaution, I will be taking 40mg clomid and .1mg of arimidex daily until the nipple sensitivity calms down. I don’t have nolva or ralox, so I’ll have to use clomid for now. I don’t want to crush my estrogen, so that’s why I’m going to be trying this protocol for now. If the symptoms don’t subside, I’ll start exemestane 12.5mg eod.
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I would just do the Exemestane. Clomid isn’t going to do much for pre gyno. I definitely wouldn’t do 12.5 eod personally. Everyone is different but I haven’t used an ai since dropping my dosage to 300mg a week and that’s including while taking the epistane as well.
 
Nickespo89 said:
My current blast and cruise is.

1-10 test e 750mg
2-8 dbol 10mg
11-12 test e 300mg
13-16 epistane 40mg every day.

I’m on week 14 now and am loving it. I feel better and look better than I did on 750mg of test and dbol. My goals was to bulk and then recomp in the same 16 week blast. And so far it’s been quite successful.
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I'm about to run the same cycle with 750mg test e and 20mg dbol. I have some havoc I might throw in as well. Isn't 10mg dbol extremely low dose? From what I've read 20 is pretty low. I have never tried it myself this will be my first time.
 
Day 11: Weighed 180lbs today, attempted to train back/bis/traps but the lethargy was far too much for me to handle today. I’ll be ordering test tomorrow to incorporate into the cycle and to cruise on afterwards.
 
Day 12: Weighed 179lbs today. Trained chest/tris/delts and got 225 for 10 reps on the flat bench today. Workout wasn’t the best at first, but I managed to power through it and make it a good one. I will be training back/bis/traps tomorrow since my workout yesterday was ****ty.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 12: Weighed 179lbs today. Trained chest/tris/delts and got 225 for 10 reps on the flat bench today. Workout wasn’t the best at first, but I managed to power through it and make it a good one. I will be training back/bis/traps tomorrow since my workout yesterday was ****ty.
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Sounds good, keep pushing through bro
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 12: Weighed 179lbs today. Trained chest/tris/delts and got 225 for 10 reps on the flat bench today. Workout wasn’t the best at first, but I managed to power through it and make it a good one. I will be training back/bis/traps tomorrow since my workout yesterday was ****ty.
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You might as well get the test sooner rather than later
 
Day 13: Weighed 178.5lbs today; trained back/bis/traps and had a good workout. Lethargy is still biting me in the ass, but I’m trying to push through it to the best of my ability. 225 went pretty smooth on bent over rows today for a set of 15, so I guess my strength on back could be going up as well.
 
Day 14: Weighed 178.5lbs this morning and trained legs today. Nothing much to report yet asides from the strength and endurance improvements. Im really surprised with my improvements in strength, specifically in my bench press, considering that my bodyweight has not changed much at all.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 14: Weighed 178.5lbs this morning and trained legs today. Nothing much to report yet asides from the strength and endurance improvements. Im really surprised with my improvements in strength, specifically in my bench press, considering that my bodyweight has not changed much at all.
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Same man. Epistane strength is unreal. I am loving my run.
 
I ran it @10mg because it didn’t change my ai regiment. I keep ai usage as low as possible. However! I smoke marijuana which upregulates progestins. Progestins can increase the effectiveness of estrogen and dbol converts to methyl estrogen which is basically the Lucifer of all Estros. The progestin effect is the same reason guys on high test low tren cycles need an ai and a dopamine agonist. Where as guys on low test (100-200mg) and higher tren (300-700) can get away with hardly using an ai at all. And do great with just an agonist. Hell you can probably get by with just some chaste berry and p5p b6 on the low test high tren. I had gyno a few years back and had to get it surgically removed. And I have spent the past 4 years trying to avoid it ever happening again. ��

I wouldn’t add epistane to a high dose of test personally. A few guys ran into some weird situations where they got gyno while taking epi on a large dose of test. Not really sure why and there isn’t enough research on the methylepistanol with high test for us to know. You could always do it and get some bloods to see where you are at. But personally I like to use it as a bridge for strength gains and a short 4-6 week recomp of my diet before going to 4-6 week test only cruise.
 
big_pete said:
I'm about to run the same cycle with 750mg test e and 20mg dbol. I have some havoc I might throw in as well. Isn't 10mg dbol extremely low dose? From what I've read 20 is pretty low. I have never tried it myself this will be my first time.
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Hey man I messed up and didn’t quote you in my reply. It’s above this post
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 14: Weighed 178.5lbs this morning and trained legs today. Nothing much to report yet asides from the strength and endurance improvements. Im really surprised with my improvements in strength, specifically in my bench press, considering that my bodyweight has not changed much at all.
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So would you say the epi is legit? Looking good in your start pic too bro.
 
Nickespo89 said:
I ran it @10mg because it didn’t change my ai regiment. I keep ai usage as low as possible. However! I smoke marijuana which upregulates progestins. Progestins can increase the effectiveness of estrogen and dbol converts to methyl estrogen which is basically the Lucifer of all Estros. The progestin effect is the same reason guys on high test low tren cycles need an ai and a dopamine agonist. Where as guys on low test (100-200mg) and higher tren (300-700) can get away with hardly using an ai at all. And do great with just an agonist. Hell you can probably get by with just some chaste berry and p5p b6 on the low test high tren. I had gyno a few years back and had to get it surgically removed. And I have spent the past 4 years trying to avoid it ever happening again. ��

I wouldn’t add epistane to a high dose of test personally. A few guys ran into some weird situations where they got gyno while taking epi on a large dose of test. Not really sure why and there isn’t enough research on the methylepistanol with high test for us to know. You could always do it and get some bloods to see where you are at. But personally I like to use it as a bridge for strength gains and a short 4-6 week recomp of my diet before going to 4-6 week test only cruise.
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Oh i see. I would be paranoid af if I had surgery. I read that Arnold and bodybuilders back in the day ran doses as low as 10-15 and they looked great. How were your results at that dose? I'll take your advice and use the epistane as a bridge thanks bro
 
big_pete said:
Oh i see. I would be paranoid af if I had surgery. I read that Arnold and bodybuilders back in the day ran doses as low as 10-15 and they looked great. How were your results at that dose? I'll take your advice and use the epistane as a bridge thanks bro
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I will pm you my reply. I don’t want to blow up this dudes log with our convo.
 
Lethargy still kicking your butt? any other sides appearing?
keep it up brother..ill keep following along ..good logs made me lean towards nano with my next run,just got some Test C and nano on its way!
 
troybrown said:
Lethargy still kicking your butt? any other sides appearing?
keep it up brother..ill keep following along ..good logs made me lean towards nano with my next run,just got some Test C and nano on its way!
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Lethargy is definitely still an issue unfortunately haha. I had a bit of nipple sensitivity which went away. Asides from that, I’m not noticing any other side effects really. I also have some test enan coming my way; I’ll be running it at 150mg split in two injections per week to help the lethargy and to cruise on after.
 
Day 15: Weighed 179 this morning; trained chest/tris/delts and had a good workout despite my rotator cuff being a cuck today haha. Got 225 for an easy set of 10 today; I would’ve gone for 11-12 but I just went with 10 to avoid making my rotator cuff any worse. I haven’t noticed any major sides yet, but I’m expecting the back pumps, joint pain and cramps to eventually settle in like they did on my last epistane cycle.
 
Day 16: Weighed 178.5 today; trained back/bis/traps. Strength is still increasing; 225 feels like nothing on bent over rows. I did notice some pain in my lower back during the rows, but I’m not entirely sure if they were back pumps or not. I’m surprised to be hovering around the same weight still, considering that I’ve been eating 6 meals a day. If my weight doesn’t start going up by the end of this week, I’ll probably up the carbs.
 
Are you noticing any more definition in your abs? Just wondering if you are possibly recomping. The scale always ****s with me...
 
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