Bobo and anyone else's opinion on Waxy Maize PWO?

Took the WM first time yesterday. I ordered a custom mix of 80% WM to 20% BCAA's with splenda as a sweetener and chocolate flavor. I took 100 grams of the mix so almost 80 grams WM and 20g BCAA's. I must say that it mixed okay....but god it tasted like horrid!!!! I took it right after weight training then I went and did 20 minutes cardio and then a little after cardio I had 1 cup ground oats, some strawberries and 60g WPI.

I will keep you all posted if I notice anything over my usually oats/whey combo.
 
Bobo said:
And this would benefit you how?

The same arguement goes for just about every insulin mimicker.


If I'm not storing carbs as fat, I would consider that a benefit in and of itself. Not that I'm any sort of expert, but the theory behind WMS makes sense to me.
 
I like it for the fact that it results in absolutely ZERO bloat for me. Ive used up to 3 scoops of it PWO and not had any bloating issues at all. It definitely makes me feel fuller as well. For the record, Im starting my own little experiment of sorts next week...not sure how long it is going to run for.

For you guys who havent used the intense muscle type, let me say there is a HUGE difference between that and Vitargo, both in the effectiveness and consistency. the IM stuff is by far hands down better!

Jason
 
Ubiquitous said:
good, that's what I have.. and I've tried Vitargo before. thanks Jason.

Yeah, you will find if you haven't tried the other that its a bet messy, but mixes so much easier than the Vitargo. The Vitargo used to clump in my blender bottle, and if you didnt drink it right away, you would end up with a 20oz serving of crappy jelly or jello consistency nasty ass "loaf" in your shaker. The WMS will settle, but not really gel, and it doesnt have the really nasty taste to it. I hate that vitargo stuff.

Jason
 
Jason Pegg said:
Yeah, you will find if you haven't tried the other that its a bet messy, but mixes so much easier than the Vitargo. The Vitargo used to clump in my blender bottle, and if you didnt drink it right away, you would end up with a 20oz serving of crappy jelly or jello consistency nasty ass "loaf" in your shaker. The WMS will settle, but not really gel, and it doesnt have the really nasty taste to it. I hate that vitargo stuff.

Jason

WMS mixes just fine in my blender bottle w/ creatine, aakg, etc.
 
How do you mix oats and whey PWO? Just regular dry oatmeal and whey mixed w/ some water in a shaker? It doesn't need to sit and saturate or anything? What kind of oats are you guys getting?
 
machwon04 said:
How do you mix oats and whey PWO? Just regular dry oatmeal and whey mixed w/ some water in a shaker? It doesn't need to sit and saturate or anything? What kind of oats are you guys getting?

You can do it like that. Or, you can throw the uncooked oats in a coffegrinder and chop the **** out of them. Personal preference really.

Jason
 
Jason Pegg said:
You can do it like that. Or, you can throw the uncooked oats in a coffegrinder and chop the **** out of them. Personal preference really.

Jason

I grind my oats up dry in the Magic Bullet...then blend them w/ whatever in the blender part of the Bullet. I love that thing!

For a home made MRP, I'll use milk, PB, ground oats, protein powder, etc.

For post workout, you could just blend up the oats w/ the whey. For those of you just using oats and whey, how much oats do you use?
 
machwon04 said:
How do you mix oats and whey PWO? Just regular dry oatmeal and whey mixed w/ some water in a shaker? It doesn't need to sit and saturate or anything? What kind of oats are you guys getting?

I just use regular oats with water and protein powder. Then use a spoon to eat the oats and drink the liquid.


CROWLER
 
Grind them up...it's a world of difference. I used to just throw them in the blender, too, but this way goes down way easier.
 
I didn't mean I put them in blender. I just scoop them into water with some protein powder. I am too lazy to bother with grinders, blenders etc.

BTW to those looking for a low GI postworkout drink may be screwing yourself. Some foods have their GI increased by 100% or more when you do a simple thing such as grinding it up.


CROWLER
 
CROWLER said:
I didn't mean I put them in blender. I just scoop them into water with some protein powder. I am too lazy to bother with grinders, blenders etc.


CROWLER

Same here, I think they taste fine. Cup+water+1 cup oats=nummy in my tummy.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Same here, I think they taste fine. Cup+water+1 cup oats=nummy in my tummy.


Hey BUDDY!

Congrats on the USP Labs deal, VERY well deserved!

BTW I was doing some googling of various glycemic index numbers about 5 minuets ago and what do I see but a post by you right here on AM how grinding foods increases their GI :)

Damn you are EVERY WHERE!


CROWLER
 
nightfly71 said:
If I'm not storing carbs as fat, I would consider that a benefit in and of itself. Not that I'm any sort of expert, but the theory behind WMS makes sense to me.

And when you understand just how ridiculous that sounds, then you will understand how baseless the theory is.

If it was true, you would be buying it from Merck.

But it gives me one hell of a pump!!!! :rolleyes:
 
Bobo said:
Not oats.



How about brown rice and if so by how much?


CROWLER
 
CROWLER said:
How about brown rice and if so by how much?


CROWLER

When you consider the number of grains and types, its impossible to tell. Mainly, wheats are the greatest effected, oats aren't at all.
 
Oats can be effected by processing (instant vs. rolled), just not particle size.
 
steel cut?
 
Are good.

I wouldn't worry much, you are splitting hairs if you worry about oats and the differences.
 
How about brown rice flour?


CROWLER
 
Man, go ask your R&D department! :lol:
 
Bobo said:
Man, go ask your R&D department! :lol:

Bastige :rasp:


CROWLER
 
machwon04 said:
How do you mix oats and whey PWO? Just regular dry oatmeal and whey mixed w/ some water in a shaker? It doesn't need to sit and saturate or anything? What kind of oats are you guys getting?


oats, water, and whey in a blender .. mixes up just fine .. put it in two bottles ... one pre and one for post and i'm on my merry way
 
well thats interesting.i wonder how different grains react differently like that?glad it doesnt affect oats though as they are a new fav staple of mine.love my little coffee grinder for em!
 
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