Blast: Trestolone Acetate + Testosterone + Superdrol + LGD / Hairygrandpa blowing up!

Whisky said:
He’ll answer in a few mins, he’s just being defibrillated.....
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I knew I would get grief for this

I find myself concerned with my heart because I was recluse with my body for many years.... so I was wondering how someone with years on them would go about protecting themselves
 
Jcc7220 said:
I knew I would get grief for this

I find myself concerned with my heart because I was recluse with my body for many years.... so I was wondering how someone with years on them would go about protecting themselves
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No dig at you brother - just my dark sense of humour....lol
 
Whisky said:
No dig at you brother - just my dark sense of humour....lol
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I was about to say that isn't giving you greif, that is just Whisky being an entertaining ass! It's part of why we like him!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Depends on how much moob there is. When it shakes and jiggles after you stop moving that is just too much... I have a good 1/4lb of fat / psuedogyno under each pec. Plus I was picked on as a kid for having boobs so I am HYPER SENSITIVE when it comes to that. It is the first thing I see in every pic, or every time I put on a shirt and can see my moobs through it.



My thoughts are that it would not exacerbate the wetness, but probably won't minimize it either. However they will act differently on the AR giving different quality to the muscle like you mentioned. Actually that combination might be synergistic compared to SD without a Test Base. If estro got low that way you would gain less. Definitely not the case with trest in the picture.


Yes, isn't it a great idea to add in high quality DIM to help with metabolizing the different types of estrogen to a healthier balance.

You can do 2 methods here, dose a suicidal inhibitor at the end of PCT, or just wait out the higher estrogen levels before stopping the SERM.



The things with these SERMS is that they are designed to specifically have a high affinity to breast tissue, this does not mean that every other estrogen receptor is bound with the same affinity or strength so it can still exercise some of it's effects on some other processes.



This...

Okay now, 265x7 on close grip bench isn't ego lifting with a trick shoulder... :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag:
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I do not know enough about dim to be able to comment. I would assume that it can't hurt though.
 
Jcc7220 said:
Hairygrandpa - if you don’t mind me asking you weren’t concerned for your heart at your age?... from my understanding if you have any type of heart disease Your basically putting heart disease on steroids.
What precautions did you take prior to your cycle? Were you concerned about an unknown illnesses not only being brought to light but advanced from the steroid use....
My intention for asking is selfish (I just want to learn), not trying to spoil fun
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I had recently an appointment with a cardiologist. 2 years ago I had left ventricular hypertrophy. Now its gone. My heart walls got thicker, he asked me if I lift weight, because it indicated it. If BP is high on cycle, I use Telmisartan, it has awesome benefits beyond lowering BP, like enhanced lipolysis, enhanced insulin sensitivity and metabolism. No worries here, I don't abuse roids, if you look at my dosages.
 
Thank you, I find that extremely interesting that you had LVH and cured it... you did this through healthy living?
Also I will look into telmisartan for insulin sensitivity benefits
 
Jcc7220 said:
Thank you, I find that extremely interesting that you had LVH and cured it... you did this through healthy living?
Also I will look into telmisartan for insulin sensitivity benefits
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I was a fat bastard 2+ years ago (pic), who did not move a muscle for about 14 years. BP was 180/100 resting, Triglycerides 750 (!) and I had LVH.
Telmisartan for about 6 month at 80mg/d, together with harsh lifestyle changes and lifting cured it. The last 2 years I did all kind of weird cycles, Sarms, Serms, HGH, Ph's, Roids...you name it. Honestly, mostly it made me feel like sh1t and no dramatic changes were seen, that I couldn't have archived without them. Nowadays I use compounds and dosages that have less sides for me and give me a slight (hehehe) advantage that's measurable.

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hairygrandpa said:
I was a fat bastard 2+ years ago (pic), who did not move a muscle for about 14 years. BP was 180/100 resting, Triglycerides 750 (!) and I had LVH.
Telmisartan for about 6 month at 80mg/d, together with harsh lifestyle changes and lifting cured it. The last 2 years I did all kind of weird cycles, Sarms, Serms, HGH, Ph's, Roids...you name it. Honestly, mostly it made me feel like sh1t and no dramatic changes were seen, that I couldn't have archived without them. Nowadays I use compounds and dosages that have less sides for me and give me a slight (hehehe) advantage that's measurable.

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I don't see any changes. It's just because one of the pics was taken closer than the other and just makes you look bigger! lol
Just kidding!

That is some bad ass progress brother!
 
Big changes in 2 years. Swole!
 
Studhorse said:
I don't see any changes. It's just because one of the pics was taken closer than the other and just makes you look bigger! lol
Just kidding!

That is some bad ass progress brother!
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Pmsl

But yeah that’s awesome HG - inspiring stuff bro.
 
Mrkleen that's kinda what I'm trying to get at I guess. The synergestic effect. The thing you mentioned with the ai was also my take on it but what I'm not sure about is how estrogen affects you even if blocked. There are still high amounts running through the body and it seems like people have different takes on it.

Also


Some people claim nolva blocks gains and others don't. Some say the ai is the New revolution while others claim nolva is safer and better for gains. I just havent seen any studies on this. Isnt there a study that nolva can lower igf after a long run and aromasin raise it? Or is this the same bull**** as nolva being bad with tren?
 
hairygrandpa said:
I was a fat bastard 2+ years ago (pic), who did not move a muscle for about 14 years. BP was 180/100 resting, Triglycerides 750 (!) and I had LVH.
Telmisartan for about 6 month at 80mg/d, together with harsh lifestyle changes and lifting cured it. The last 2 years I did all kind of weird cycles, Sarms, Serms, HGH, Ph's, Roids...you name it. Honestly, mostly it made me feel like sh1t and no dramatic changes were seen, that I couldn't have archived without them. Nowadays I use compounds and dosages that have less sides for me and give me a slight (hehehe) advantage that's measurable.

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Nice man, your face even look different. Yeah keep the cycles simple and let diet and hard work do the rest. I wish primo was cheap and I would always run it. I swear next cycle will be my last harsh one. If I'm lying I will fly to Paraguay and be your private taxi for two years.
 
This why I lobe HGP, apart from being an awesome guy he is also proof that you're never too old or too out of shape to become juicy (no pun intended)
 
hairygrandpa said:
I was a fat bastard 2+ years ago (pic), who did not move a muscle for about 14 years. BP was 180/100 resting, Triglycerides 750 (!) and I had LVH.
Telmisartan for about 6 month at 80mg/d, together with harsh lifestyle changes and lifting cured it. The last 2 years I did all kind of weird cycles, Sarms, Serms, HGH, Ph's, Roids...you name it. Honestly, mostly it made me feel like sh1t and no dramatic changes were seen, that I couldn't have archived without them. Nowadays I use compounds and dosages that have less sides for me and give me a slight (hehehe) advantage that's measurable.

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Nice transform!
 
Chados said:
I've been traveling all around the world and the place I saw most crazy stuff was in Christ church New Zealand at night, Auckland was also a bit messy. And New Zealand is supposedly a really safe country. I also encounter some stuff in Bulgaria. The (most dangerous places ) I never saw anything.
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I nearly forgot mugged in Chicago. Saw the rush me in the reflection of a shop window, side stepped him and he turned back to have another go but I was already moving at him so he hesitated and bailed. I was off my chops on hydroxycut diet pills too, wearing a tee shirt and jeans with steam pouring off me after it had been snowing all night, he probably thought I was the bigger crackhead.
 
Gym

Today was shoulders and legs.
90 minutes all angles with moderate weights, high volume. Nothing special to report.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
I nearly forgot mugged in Chicago. Saw the rush me in the reflection of a shop window, side stepped him and he turned back to have another go but I was already moving at him so he hesitated and bailed. I was off my chops on hydroxycut diet pills too, wearing a tee shirt and jeans with steam pouring off me after it had been snowing all night, he probably thought I was the bigger crackhead.
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Yeah Chicago is a bit crazy too. Only stayed there one night due to delayed flights but I've heard some stories.
 
Chados said:
Yeah Chicago is a bit crazy too. Only stayed there one night due to delayed flights but I've heard some stories.
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I was once kidnapped by skinheads (Neo-Nazis) in Lodz, Poland, literally. I was wandering the streets at night, searching for a bar, when about 8 skinheads surrounded me and pushed me in a dark alley. It turned into a crazy party when they found out I was a German. Had to eat their greasy food and drink with them until unconsciousness pretending I'm like minded, while shouting every 5 minutes "Heil Hitler!". Can't imagine what would have happened if I was a Jew.

They looked like this:

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hairygrandpa said:
I was once kidnapped by skinheads (Neo-Nazis) in Lodz, Poland, literally. I was wandering the streets at night, searching for a bar, when about 8 skinheads surrounded me and pushed me in a dark alley. It turned into a crazy party when they found out I was a German. Had to eat their greasy food and drink with them until unconsciousness pretending I'm like minded, while shouting every 5 minutes "Heil Hitler!". Can't imagine what would have happened if I was a Jew.

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**** must have been scary..
Haha my friend who can't drink alcohol went to I believe soccer world cup in Ukraine and Poland. He ended up beaten up and can't remember why. And like a year or two ago he went to Latvia I believe and ended up staying out longer than his friends. He met some Germans that were drinking and they used his phone to call his friends in the morning. Hey your friend is here and he wants you to pick him up cause you are going to the airport. They told the Germans to give him the phone and he said guys just bring me my luggage to the airport. His friend said no we left it cause we couldn't reach you and you won't make it to the airport now we're already there. YES I can make it in gonna go pick it up and I'll be there. He didnt make it.. He had to book another plane and fell asleep at the airport and didn't have money left so he called another friend of ours that wasn't on the trip and borrowed money to take the boat home haha. His brother was at beerfest ended up going Thursday , went to jail Friday night and came out of jail Monday. He ended up in some fight with a transvestite that called all get pimps and he and his friend got beaten up.. not sure how they were the ones in jail but.
 
Chados said:
Mrkleen that's kinda what I'm trying to get at I guess. The synergestic effect. The thing you mentioned with the ai was also my take on it but what I'm not sure about is how estrogen affects you even if blocked. There are still high amounts running through the body and it seems like people have different takes on it.

Some people claim nolva blocks gains and others don't. Some say the ai is the New revolution while others claim nolva is safer and better for gains. I just havent seen any studies on this. Isnt there a study that nolva can lower igf after a long run and aromasin raise it? Or is this the same bull**** as nolva being bad with tren?
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SERMS target breast tissue specifically, that does not mean they don't effect other AR and ER sites too, but they were designed to have minimal impact on all other areas.

I am sure there is a study showing that but I doubt it was accompanied by higher doses of anabolics that increase IGF-1 levels quite a bit. In that situation I would imagine that the increase from the gear is probably overpowering any reduction that nolva might bring to the table. Notice I said imagine, not stating that as fact.

Also the newer standard seems to be other SERMS that are less toxic than Nolva. I think in many ways though we are looking way to deep into the minutia of things. When you start getting into 1% differences and what not from a cycle you are talking about less than an ounce of muscle difference. Just pick a safe and side free method then focus on nailing the basics.

I have a problem with nailing down my basics a lot of the time unless truly motivated to do so. Sometimes I will even use a small cycle as a jumpstart into the extra motivation I need to do the basics right...
Chados said:
**** must have been scary..
Haha my friend who can't drink alcohol went to I believe soccer world cup in Ukraine and Poland. He ended up beaten up and can't remember why. And like a year or two ago he went to Latvia I believe and ended up staying out longer than his friends. He met some Germans that were drinking and they used his phone to call his friends in the morning. Hey your friend is here and he wants you to pick him up cause you are going to the airport. They told the Germans to give him the phone and he said guys just bring me my luggage to the airport. His friend said no we left it cause we couldn't reach you and you won't make it to the airport now we're already there. YES I can make it in gonna go pick it up and I'll be there. He didnt make it.. He had to book another plane and fell asleep at the airport and didn't have money left so he called another friend of ours that wasn't on the trip and borrowed money to take the boat home haha. His brother was at beerfest ended up going Thursday , went to jail Friday night and came out of jail Monday. He ended up in some fight with a transvestite that called all get pimps and he and his friend got beaten up.. not sure how they were the ones in jail but.
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I have chosen to read this as your friend got beaten up by a transvestite. I am not sure this is accurate but if not it is more entertaining. :)
 
Chados, I edited my post above because I noticed I hadn't answered your question. Didn't want you to miss the response, not that it is major important or anything...
 
MrKleen73 said:
I have chosen to read this as your friend got beaten up by a transvestite. I am not sure this is accurate but if not it is more entertaining. :)
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Haha nah he's actually a huge guy. My theory is and according to them they didn't do anything wrong. My theory is this transvestite was a red light district one that was hitting on him and he got offended while drunk and pushed her or him or it and the trans got annoyed and called him or her or it's people to come to rescue. (Got no problem with people dressing up just not sure what each person wanna be called hence the (it)
 
MrKleen73 said:
Chados, I edited my post above because I noticed I hadn't answered your question. Didn't want you to miss the response, not that it is major important or anything...
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Thanks , so what's your opinion? Nolva or ai or both on cycle? I mean what would your gut tell you?
 
Chados said:
Thanks , so what's your opinion? Nolva or ai or both on cycle? I mean what would your gut tell you?
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In the past 10mg nolva a day once the nips got sensitive if they did was the way to go. I feel that accidentally crashing your estrogen is by far the worse of the two situations. Now if you can dial in your estrogen and can get it tested on cycle then an AI keeping estrogen levels around 30-40 would be ideal. Most people can't nail that down as well as that to be honest.

So in the sake of ease of use and avoiding the pitfalls of low estrogen I would recommend a SERM IF NEEDED.

Right now I am doing the 30mg of Torem that Spurfy suggested with that 40mg of Var and it is treating me nicely. I am on TRT so not sure the SERM will do much but I had it at the house and Spurfy said to run it even though I was on TRT. So we are going to see how that works out. I did notice my semen volume seems to have increased slightly. Not much else going on. Definitely no signs of gyno but I dropped my Test E to 100-120 a week. So there really shouldn't even be any elevated estrogen anyway.

When i ran 200 test e, and 400 EQ I didn't need an AI, so I did not run one. Any time you don't have to mess with estrogen levels or a SERM leave them alone... that is my stance. However if you need to use both to get control of something then I would use both. If you want to starve Gyno to temporarily shrink it up some use both...
 
Chados said:
Haha nah he's actually a huge guy. My theory is and according to them they didn't do anything wrong. My theory is this transvestite was a red light district one that was hitting on him and he got offended while drunk and pushed her or him or it and the trans got annoyed and called him or her or it's people to come to rescue. (Got no problem with people dressing up just not sure what each person wanna be called hence the (it)
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They, or in this context their is a bit less dehumanizing than IT, if looking for a better word next time.

Hard to believe how it has all gotten so confusing to so many. I will call them what they want me to if I can manage it. It took me 3 years to stop calling our then niece her, and calling them by their new male name... Oliver... WTF, who chooses Oliver for a name... Hey whatever works for you. Just don't berate me if I don't get your pronoun right. It's an adjustment, and you know this crap is confusing! :)
 
MrKleen73 said:
In the past 10mg nolva a day once the nips got sensitive if they did was the way to go. I feel that accidentally crashing your estrogen is by far the worse of the two situations. Now if you can dial in your estrogen and can get it tested on cycle then an AI keeping estrogen levels around 30-40 would be ideal. Most people can't nail that down as well as that to be honest.

So in the sake of ease of use and avoiding the pitfalls of low estrogen I would recommend a SERM IF NEEDED.

Right now I am doing the 30mg of Torem that Spurfy suggested with that 40mg of Var and it is treating me nicely. I am on TRT so not sure the SERM will do much but I had it at the house and Spurfy said to run it even though I was on TRT. So we are going to see how that works out. I did notice my semen volume seems to have increased slightly. Not much else going on. Definitely no signs of gyno but I dropped my Test E to 100-120 a week. So there really shouldn't even be any elevated estrogen anyway.

When i ran 200 test e, and 400 EQ I didn't need an AI, so I did not run one. Any time you don't have to mess with estrogen levels or a SERM leave them alone... that is my stance. However if you need to use both to get control of something then I would use both. If you want to starve Gyno to temporarily shrink it up some use both...
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Yeah makes sense. I feel that aromasin of controlled could be the best way to go.
 
MrKleen73 said:
They, or in this context their is a bit less dehumanizing than IT, if looking for a better word next time.

Hard to believe how it has all gotten so confusing to so many. I will call them what they want me to if I can manage it. It took me 3 years to stop calling our then niece her, and calling them by their new male name... Oliver... WTF, who chooses Oliver for a name... Hey whatever works for you. Just don't berate me if I don't get your pronoun right. It's an adjustment, and you know this crap is confusing! :)
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Haha yeah well to be fair English is only my second language. Nah seriously speaking I was just messing around a little, I just don't know wether this trans was a male or not. I would bet my house he was though. Don't see many females dressing up as males while hitting on guys. Some people do however nowadays prefer to not have a gender. That blows my mind a little. I also feel it's a bit crazy if everyone can walk around with an id claiming they're something else. Quite hard for us straight guys to be 100% sure who were marrying , 20 years later oh yeah I'm a dude and can't have kids .. and for them to walk in to our bathrooms. I wouldnt be comfortable dressing up as a female walking in to a female bathroom. At the same time I got bigger worries in my life, let people do what they want.
 
Just for sharing:

Yesterday my elbow acted up really bad after workout.
My favorite anti inflammatory is Diclofenac. Before taking any, I thought: "Maybe science discovered some synergistic action between Diclofenac and other substances, lets google."

Bang! :

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So I took:

50mg Diclofenac
1 heaped teaspoon of Curcumin (raw poder) in a glass whole milk (fat soluble)
1 pill Bioperine (supposedly ups bio-availability of curcumin by 200%)

And went to bed.
Today, pain completely gone. I used diclofenac before as stand alone, it never had such dramatic effect as seen today. Will repeat it if necessary and keep you informed if my findings hold water.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Just for sharing:

Yesterday my elbow acted up really bad after workout.
My favorite anti inflammatory is Diclofenac. Before taking any, I thought: "Maybe science discovered some synergistic action between Diclofenac and other substances, lets google."

Bang! :

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So I took:

50mg Diclofenac
1 heaped teaspoon of Curcumin (raw poder) in a glass whole milk (fat soluble)
1 pill Bioperine (supposedly ups bio-availability of curcumin by 200%)

And went to bed.
Today, pain completely gone. I used diclofenac before as stand alone, it never had such dramatic effect as seen today. Will repeat it if necessary and keep you informed if my findings hold water.
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That's some next level science by you I'll rep that
 
Batsh1t crazy workout

Elevated push ups w. handles, nipples touching floor
x38
lowering 3 sec. : x22
quick: x28
partials: x30
partials: 5/ holding 5 sec midway/ 5 / holding 5 sec/ 5 / holding 5 sec

Seated row with chest stop:
265lbs x11
285lbs x8
225lbs x16 RP 7

Stiff legged deadlifts, combined with double shrugs x rep
225lbs x24 /shrugs 48
225lbs x18 /shrugs 36
225lbs x16 /shrugs 32

leg extensions
150lbs quick x 27
slow x 17
partials x 22

one armed cable curls
25lbs x30/25/25
35lbs x18/15/15/15
25lbs x 18/20/16

cable V grip triceps push down
110lbs x18/13/15/9/8
bent forward 85lbs x16/14/16/13

cable reverse grip triceps
25lbs x12/11/9/11/8/8/7

3x 1minute heavy bag
 
My wife found in the supermarket vitamin and mineral fortified whole milk for toddlers at reduced price, bought 10 gallons.
Now drinking half a gallon a day. If it makes toddlers grow, it also makes grandpas grow, right?
 
Milk may "Do A Body Good" but I just don't like it..

Glad your elbow is feeling better!
 
Rocket3015 said:
Milk may "Do A Body Good" but I just don't like it..

Glad your elbow is feeling better!
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Thank you, the elbow made it through the last workout without much trouble. Will take the same anti inflammatory combo before bed again.
Friday is off. "Healing and growth day".
In a few days I drop the diclofenac and go only with the curcumin.
 
Call to Arms

Close grip bench press TUT 3.1.1.
225lbs x15/12/13/10

weighted chin ups
+45lbs x8/5/6/6

cable one armed biceps curls
30lbs x24/22/20/18/16/16/16
40lbs x10/10/10

cable one armed triceps over head ext.
30lbs x18/14/13/12/12/12

seated triceps press
265lbs x13/13/10/12

chest cable flies
2x40lbs x19
2x60lbs x12/10/8/8/8/6

smith seated reverse shrugs
155lbs x18
220lbs x12/14/11/10
 
hairygrandpa said:
Call to Arms

Close grip bench press TUT 3.1.1.
225lbs x15/12/13/10

weighted chin ups
+45lbs x8/5/6/6

cable one armed biceps curls
30lbs x24/22/20/18/16/16/16
40lbs x10/10/10

cable one armed triceps over head ext.
30lbs x18/14/13/12/12/12

seated triceps press
265lbs x13/13/10/12

chest cable flies
2x40lbs x19
2x60lbs x12/10/8/8/8/6

smith seated reverse shrugs
155lbs x18
220lbs x12/14/11/10
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Looks very effective !!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Awesome! How did the oral BPC work for you? How is your new job?
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It’s doing great, my stomach is feeling fine but I’m going to see soon how it is without it. The job is going lol went to a new shift and supervisor so it got way better but I’m still going to look for another job. How’s everything going for you?
 
CJNator said:
It’s doing great, my stomach is feeling fine but I’m going to see soon how it is without it. The job is going lol went to a new shift and supervisor so it got way better but I’m still going to look for another job. How’s everything going for you?
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Like always, LOL. What would be life without problems?
 
I'm old, I like boring !!
 
Here something for the AM Nerds:

All about protein:

[video=youtube;wRehf1L231Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRehf1L231Q[/video]
 
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