I was just answering your question...I wasnt directing any sort of negativity towards you sir
That I feel is true, based on personal experience. But I don’t shed - Stano at 1g/day doesn’t bug me, even when I ran it with DMZ & Dianadrol (Celtic’s old dry Dbol-oxime).Well I knew it was DHT but fawk. It cant be as high on the DHT pole as Stano (true Stano, not epiandro)?
You’ve done this I assume?just get some testosterone base or acetate raw powder from one of the more reputable vendors. You can dissolve 4 grams easy in a 30 mL bottle of Salvo transdermal carrier from Iron Legion. 1 mL upon waking, 1 mL in the early afternoon. way stronger than the prescription only androderm type stuff
Oh yes. Its my test base for every cycle. I dont inject. The solution I prepare is 13.3% strength weight/volume. For comparison, prescription androgel is a puny 1.62%You’ve done this I assume?
Sent you a pmOh yes. Its my test base for every cycle. I dont inject. The solution I prepare is 13.3% strength weight/volume. For comparison, prescription androgel is a puny 1.62%
I am currently using 2 mL testosterone transdermal, 1 mL boldenone acetate trasndermal (same concentration as the T), 30 mg Dbol, 0.6 mg letrozole per day. Tommorow marks one week complete and its all starting to kick in now.
I forgot about SALVO! Yes! That would work perfectlyWould Salvo work with Test P?
This should be a sticky or something.ooriginally we spread the idea of a "test base" to help with lethargy.. it was never meant to replace test.. and FFS it was brought about using DHEA as the test base.. 10 yr ago when we worked for LG. Rhadam and I came up with this **** and it has morphed into a bastard child that everyone lives by on this forum..
its become quite ridiculous.. now everyone thinks they NEED a test base.. but frankly you do not. and ALSO while im on the subject.. even pinning test as a "test base" is a joke because it really doesnt do **** to thwart lethargy. in fact ive come to believe lethargy is often dose related so adding more androgens is only going to exacerbate the problem.
now i will say that smart stacks have always had test in them so its not like there is no benefit to using it. just that ultimately in the big picture this theme has only been around for under a decade, yet AAS have been around more than half a century. and "back in the day" there was no test base theory to live by. if you can run real test, by all means go for it.. but if not dont bother. seriously.. your likely washing money down the drain for the perceived effects.
This is a really good idea. Especially sanguine mixing it all together. That just sounds really simple! Does phlojel ship by any chance from Europe?Op take it from me. I always use Td test on my cycle as I work offshore and can’t take needles.
I’ve used dmso and salvo with test but there’s one thing much much better than them 2; phlojel ultra. That stuff is the b0llocks! I buy raw test from China mix it according to basskilleronline’s instructions with the pj, it’s odourless, absorbs instantly, doesn’t leave you with garlic breath like dmso and in my opinion works faster. A guy on here recommended it to me last year and I’ve never looked back.
I’ve got 2 bottles in spanish customs at the moment ( the nosey bastards)
I'm not quite sure I can agree with this. A "test base" could also just as well be called an E2/DHT base. You need booth in normal quantities in order to feel normal. Androgens like deca, tren, winny, etc. don't arometise and don't 5alpha reductase. And it doesn't matter if they are DHT derivatives, they still don't function the same as pure DHT. No DHT and you'll be foggy in the head, low energy, low libido, depressed, lack of motivation, etc. Low E2 also brings lot's of problems in the psychological and physiological department.. So yeah, you need a test base if you want to feel "normal" on cycle. If you are okay with feeling like chit then no, you don't need it. But why would you want to feel like that? Cycles should imo also be about feeling great, helping you in your personal and business life and not the opposite!ooriginally we spread the idea of a "test base" to help with lethargy.. it was never meant to replace test.. and FFS it was brought about using DHEA as the test base.. 10 yr ago when we worked for LG. Rhadam and I came up with this **** and it has morphed into a bastard child that everyone lives by on this forum..
its become quite ridiculous.. now everyone thinks they NEED a test base.. but frankly you do not. and ALSO while im on the subject.. even pinning test as a "test base" is a joke because it really doesnt do **** to thwart lethargy. in fact ive come to believe lethargy is often dose related so adding more androgens is only going to exacerbate the problem.
now i will say that smart stacks have always had test in them so its not like there is no benefit to using it. just that ultimately in the big picture this theme has only been around for under a decade, yet AAS have been around more than half a century. and "back in the day" there was no test base theory to live by. if you can run real test, by all means go for it.. but if not dont bother. seriously.. your likely washing money down the drain for the perceived effects.
Unfortunately for me no, it comes from the usa, and Spain seem to hate everything that comes from the usa. Cant even order a pair of underpants without them interfering, from china? I’ve had over 100 gr of raws and it went straight through...This is a really good idea. Especially sanguine mixing it all together. That just sounds really simple! Does phlojel ship by any chance from Europe?
If D-bol 5a-reduces, that gives you M1T which I would argue, is not a reasonable substitute for DHT, in terms of "feel"I'm not quite sure I can agree with this. A "test base" could also just as well be called an E2/DHT base. You need booth in normal quantities in order to feel normal. Androgens like deca, tren, winny, etc. don't arometise and don't 5alpha reductase. And it doesn't matter if they are DHT derivatives, they still don't function the same as pure DHT. No DHT and you'll be foggy in the head, low energy, low libido, depressed, lack of motivation, etc. Low E2 also brings lot's of problems in the psychological and physiological department.. So yeah, you need a test base if you want to feel "normal" on cycle. If you are okay with feeling like chit then no, you don't need it. But why would you want to feel like that? Cycles should imo also be about feeling great, helping you in your personal and business life and not the opposite!
I'm surprised to hear stuff like this from seasoned users...
Also:
- dbol is a feel good drug. It arometises and 5a reductases to longer lasting variants. So it CAN be used as a "test base".
- 4ad is a PH to testosterone. So it's perfectly viable to use it as a base. Yes it's watery, but that's the point lol It's watery because it converts to test which converts to estrogen which is the sole point in using 4ad in the first place (besides DHT).
- Epiandro is a PH to DHT. So off course you will loose hair on it.
- I also don't like PH's as it's really up to the individual how much of it will convert to the active hormone.
- "test base" is used all over the place, not just at AM...
Hell no it’s not, but I’m on Day 9 of M1T and I am blowing the f*€k up, so I got that going for meIf D-bol 5a-reduces, that gives you M1T which I would argue, is not a reasonable substitute for DHT, in terms of "feel"
No it doesn't 5a to M1T It converts to DHM - dihydro methandrostenolone. But it does so in small amounts. It's a stronger, longer lasting then DHT.If D-bol 5a-reduces, that gives you M1T which I would argue, is not a reasonable substitute for DHT, in terms of "feel"
Ah that's to bad... Well at least Salvo ships from EU. I would never order raws from china though. Kudos for that!Unfortunately for me no, it comes from the usa, and Spain seem to hate everything that comes from the usa. Cant even order a pair of underpants without them interfering, from china? I’ve had over 100 gr of raws and it went straight through...
Dihydromethandrostenolone is another way to say M1T just the same as dihydroboldenone is another way to say 1-TNo it doesn't 5a to M1T It converts to DHM - dihydro methandrostenolone. But it does so in small amounts. It's a stronger, longer lasting then DHT.
Dianabol is methylated boldenone.No it doesn't 5a to M1T It converts to DHM - dihydro methandrostenolone. But it does so in small amounts. It's a stronger, longer lasting then DHT.
Hey I posted earlier and haven’t caught up in a while. Are you still running Var/Epi with Trest and Derm? Super curious how this will go. TD Trest is much easier to control and you’ll be hooked for life on how good that stuff isHey bros- going to run Epistane/Var in the next few weeks. Been off for 3 months and getting the itch again. Besides Dermacrine and Trest- is there anything like TD EpiAndro or Andro's? Cheers
I’d go with test ace bro, that’s what I use. 1 application a day is fine, if using salvo don’t overload it or it will cristalize every chance it getsThis salvo and test p idea has me really intrigued.
I’m assuming you don’t use salvo. Could you PM me your recipe using test ace as a TD please? ThanksI’d go with test ace bro, that’s what I use. 1 application a day is fine, if using salvo don’t overload it or it will cristalize every chance it gets
Dbol is plenty androgenic on its own in my opinion even without the 5alpha reductionIf D-bol 5a-reduces, that gives you M1T which I would argue, is not a reasonable substitute for DHT, in terms of "feel"
stanodrolHey bros- going to run Epistane/Var in the next few weeks. Been off for 3 months and getting the itch again. Besides Dermacrine and Trest- is there anything like TD EpiAndro or Andro's? Cheers
Is there anything stopping me from making a TD test cream with already suspended test (grapeseed oil)?Op take it from me. I always use Td test on my cycle as I work offshore and can’t take needles.
I’ve used dmso and salvo with test but there’s one thing much much better than them 2; phlojel ultra. That stuff is the b0llocks! I buy raw test from China mix it according to basskilleronline’s instructions with the pj, it’s odourless, absorbs instantly, doesn’t leave you with garlic breath like dmso and in my opinion works faster. A guy on here recommended it to me last year and I’ve never looked back.
I’ve got 2 bottles in spanish customs at the moment ( the nosey bastards)
It might not smell great but there's no reason you couldn't rub it on your skin. An IM preparation is reasonably similar to a TD. You'd want to use a short ester like prop.Is there anything stopping me from making a TD test cream with already suspended test (grapeseed oil)?
Would the test denature? I realize it would be harder to make a “cream” from two solutes, would end up with a more watery solution that would be harder to apply.
Wow!Have I mentioned in this thread my friend who refuses to inject? so he drinks trest ace in oil and has been using test U tabs. I can only imagine the taste. Probably needs salt.
I can’t, he’s too big. He’s swim sized. Great big fella.when you gonna give your friend the dunce cap and send him to the corner/??
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