Unanswered BEST SUPPLEMENTS . . . . . . FREE-TESTOSTERONE

[mykeylykey]

BEST ANTI-ESTROGENS (mild)

Hi fellas,

Slight change in direction . . . . . . need your advise/input on effective but milder forms of anti-estrogen products!

I've been gun shy about lowering my estrogen (to boost TOTAL-TEST/FREE-TEST) because of bad experiences with dead d*ck! Over the years, must've tried 1/2 the products on the market and without exception, they'd always end up killing my libido!


BONER KILLERS

FORMADROL EXTREME by lg sciences
RESVERITROL V2 by iforce
ERASE by pes
NOVEDEX X2 by gaspari nutrition
6 OXO EXTREME - by ergopharm (best of the bunch - less dead wood)


Has anyone from actual experience tried any anti-estro supps to help lower their estrogen, (simultaneously boosting TOTOL-TEST --- lowering SHBG --- boosting FREE-TEST . . . . . . without . . . . . . . . killing their boner???

EG Anybody like the way they LOOK and FEEL taking . . . . . .

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL
DIM


Thanks fellas, appreciate any constructive feedback,
cheers,
mykey

 

[thebigt]

BEST ANTI-ESTROGENS (mild)

Hi fellas,

Slight change in direction . . . . . . need your advise/input on effective but milder forms of anti-estrogen products!

I've been gun shy about lowering my estrogen (to boost TOTAL-TEST/FREE-TEST) because of bad experiences with dead d*ck! Over the years, must've tried 1/2 the products on the market and without exception, they'd always end up killing my libido!


BONER KILLERS

FORMADROL EXTREME by lg sciences
RESVERITROL V2 by iforce
ERASE by pes
NOVEDEX X2 by gaspari nutrition
6 OXO EXTREME - by ergopharm (best of the bunch - less dead wood)


Has anyone from actual experience tried any anti-estro supps to help lower their estrogen, (simultaneously boosting TOTOL-TEST --- lowering SHBG --- boosting FREE-TEST . . . . . . without . . . . . . . . killing their boner???

EG Anybody like the way they LOOK and FEEL taking . . . . . .

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL


Thanks fellas, appreciate any constructive feedback,
cheers,
mykey

resveratrol and 7,8 benzo are main ingredients in sustain alpha-I guarantee it won't kill boners!!!

 

[Rad83]

Stop fukin’ around with these vitamins and jump on trt (no offense or anything)

 

[Beau]

DIM works well, but be careful with dosage or you will have shockingly orange-colored urine.

 

[mykeylykey]

DIM works well, but be careful with dosage or you will have shockingly orange-colored urine.

You're the best bro!

Totally forgot about DIM. I'll definitely do my homework and read up on it!

Speaking of dosages, when I took anti-estro's from company's like Gaspari, I'd empty out the capsules each week . . . . . .

WEEK 1 . . . . . . empty out capsule 25% . . . . . . . boner killer
WEEK 2 . . . . . . empty out capsule 33% . . . . . . . boner killer
WEEK 3 . . . . . . empty out capsule 50% . . . . . . . boner killer
WEEK 4 . . . . . . empty out capsule 66% . . . . . . . boner killer
WEEK 5 . . . . . . empty out capsule 75% . . . . . . . boner killer

That was 5 yrs ago, haven't pulled the trigger on a NEW anti-estro product since!


cheers,
mykey

 

[ucheoma]

BEST ANTI-ESTROGENS (mild)

Hi fellas,

Slight change in direction . . . . . . need your advise/input on effective but milder forms of anti-estrogen products!

I've been gun shy about lowering my estrogen (to boost TOTAL-TEST/FREE-TEST) because of bad experiences with dead d*ck! Over the years, must've tried 1/2 the products on the market and without exception, they'd always end up killing my libido!


BONER KILLERS

FORMADROL EXTREME by lg sciences
RESVERITROL V2 by iforce
ERASE by pes
NOVEDEX X2 by gaspari nutrition
6 OXO EXTREME - by ergopharm (best of the bunch - less dead wood)


Has anyone from actual experience tried any anti-estro supps to help lower their estrogen, (simultaneously boosting TOTOL-TEST --- lowering SHBG --- boosting FREE-TEST . . . . . . without . . . . . . . . killing their boner???

EG Anybody like the way they LOOK and FEEL taking . . . . . .

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL


Thanks fellas, appreciate any constructive feedback,
cheers,
mykey

No disrespect but this thread is kinda childish with all the cap letters! The title of the thread is about supplements to boost free test. Have you ever run bloodwork tp check if any of the multitude of t boosters you ve used has actually had any effect on your free test levels?

All you seem to go by is your boner levels!

 

[mykeylykey]

No disrespect but this thread is kinda childish with all the cap letters! The title of the thread is about supplements to boost free test. Have you ever run bloodwork tp check if any of the multitude of t boosters you ve used has actually had any effect on your free test levels?

All you seem to go by is your boner levels!

It's all good . . . . . . instead of quickly glossing over the thread, try taking the time to actually reading some of the posts!

Blood-work, no doubt a great tool, but it doesn't tell us the whole story!

What REALLY matters . . . . . how we look, feel, and perform ( in the gym + bedroom)

When you're 50 yrs old young competing in boxing tournaments + cross-fit competitions (naturally) . . . . . . we'll talk!

cheers,
mykey

 

[ucheoma]

It's all good bro,


It's all good . . . . . . instead of just quickly glossing over the thread, try actually taking the time to read some of the posts!

cheers,
mykey

Gone back over the thread

All there is is one vague sentence about running bloodwork in the summer (future). Youve taken virtually every natty t booster, drawn up a list of boner boosters and killers yet not run bloodwork once to assess any of these? You're clowning!

 

[mykeylykey]

Gone back over the thread

All there is is one vague sentence about running bloodwork in the summer (future). Youve taken virtually every natty t booster, drawn up a list of boner boosters and killers yet not run bloodwork once to assess any of these? You're clowning!

Fair enough, I see your point.

Getting BEFORE/AFTER blood-work in a few weeks.

later this week . . . . . . . adding 'AVENA SATIVA' to my FREE-TEST stack

1-2 weeks taking another shot at an anti-estrogen supplement

3-4 weeks taking about 4 week break from cycle

. . . . . . . blood-work

cheers,
mykey

 

[Garyboy]

When you're 50 yrs old young competing in boxing tournaments + cross-fit competitions (naturally) . . . . . . we'll talk!

Masters boxing? Is this actually out there? That sounds like a recipe for disaster. How much magnesium are you currently taking?

 

[mykeylykey]

Gone back over the thread

All there is is one vague sentence about running bloodwork in the summer (future). Youve taken virtually every natty t booster, drawn up a list of boner boosters and killers yet not run bloodwork once to assess any of these? You're clowning!

I'm old school, stand-up guy . . . . . . if you're on to something, I respect that!

Added benefit of getting blood-work and posting it!

A- sharing with others . . . . . . what seems to be working
B- others sharing . . . . . . what needs tweaking

cheers,
mykey

 

[mykeylykey]

Masters boxing? Is this actually out there? That sounds like a recipe for disaster. How much magnesium are you currently taking?

Bernard Hopkins . . . . . Won Light-Heavyweight World Championship Title . . . . . . 48 yrs old young

HIs strength-conditioning coach Mackie Shilstone is a pioneer in 'Testosterone Optimization' (naturally)

Cheers,
mykey

 

[Garyboy]

Bernard Hopkins . . . . . Won Light-Heavyweight World Championship Title . . . . . . 48 yrs old young

HIs strength-conditioning coach Mackie Shilstone is a pioneer in 'Testosterone Optimization' (naturally)

Cheers,
mykey

Yes, but he’s a professional boxer and first ballot hall-of-famer. Are you wearing headgear? Is this open to anyone AKA guys that have zero boxing background? Do you have to go through physicals beforehand?

 

[mykeylykey]

Yes, but he’s a professional boxer and first ballot hall-of-famer. Are you wearing headgear? Is this open to anyone AKA guys that have zero boxing background? Do you have to go through physicals beforehand?

Amateur circuit up here in Canada . . . . . . Ontario Golden Gloves, Brampton Cup

Competition is actually the easy part! Wars in the gym is where it's a REAL blood-sport!

Bernard is a stud! He's badass because he believes as I do, as older dudes, we could and should . . . . . . look, feel and perform like 20 yr olds!

It's all about maxing out our body's potential by maxing out . . . . . . . TESTOSTERONE

NUTRITIONAL THERAPY
BOTANICAL THERAPY
EXCERSISE THERAPY
SLEEP THERAPY
HORMONE THERAPY

Google/Youtube . . . . . . 'Rory Leidelmeyer'

60+ yrs old young bodybuilder who looks absolutely awesome for his age! (any age)

Advocate . . . . . . 'Hormone Optimization'

Cheers,
mykey

 

[mykeylykey]

Back to . . . . . . FREE-TEST STACK

Only missing variable I've deliberately left out of the equation is lowering estrogen levels. (…….reasons mentioned earlier)

If anyone has any experience or knowledge of any MILDer anti-estrogen products, I'd appreciate any feedback, thanks!

Maybe . . . . . ???

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL
DIM


Cheers,
mykey

 

[Garyboy]

Amateur circuit up here in Canada . . . . . . Ontario Golden Gloves, Brampton Cup

Competition is actually the easy part! Wars in the gym is where it's a REAL blood-sport!

Bernard is a stud! He's badass because he believes as I do, as older dudes, we could and should . . . . . . look, feel and perform like 20 yr olds!

It's all about maxing out our body's potential by maxing out . . . . . . . TESTOSTERONE

NUTRITIONAL THERAPY
BOTANICAL THERAPY
EXCERSISE THERAPY
SLEEP THERAPY
HORMONE THERAPY

Google/Youtube . . . . . . 'Rory Leidelmeyer'

60+ yrs old young bodybuilder who looks absolutely awesome for his age! (any age)

Advocate . . . . . . 'Hormone Optimization'

Cheers,
mykey

Not far from Troy Ross! I’m actually in Markham. Very admirable, and stay safe with the boxing, Mykey!

 

[mykeylykey]

Not far from Troy Ross! I’m actually in Markham. Very admirable, and stay safe with the boxing, Mykey!

Troy's a sweet dude (total badass). Met him for quick second around 2010 when he pop'd into "Couture Xtreme' in Etobicoke!

I will brother, thanks!

Cheers,
mykey

 

[Jeremyk1]

If anyone has any experience or knowledge of any MILDer anti-estrogen products, I'd appreciate any feedback, thanks!

Maybe . . . . . ???

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL
DIM

As I recall, chrysin has pretty bad oral bioavailability, but I believe there is research showing it can boost testosterone levels. Probably in rats, I forget the details, but dose needs to be pretty high. I want to say 500-800mg human equivalent.

I remember a long time ago, hearing briefly about 7-methoxyflavone, not the 5-methyl version though. 7-methoxyflavone was used in an old formula of a product BioForge. I remember the formulator saying he used it because it can decrease estrogen, but is one of very few aromatase inhibitors that is able to do so while having a positive effect on libido. Could be worth looking out for.

 

[thebigt]

As I recall, chrysin has pretty bad oral bioavailability, but I believe there is research showing it can boost testosterone levels. Probably in rats, I forget the details, but dose needs to be pretty high. I want to say 500-800mg human equivalent.

I remember a long time ago, hearing briefly about 7-methoxyflavone, not the 5-methyl version though. 7-methoxyflavone was used in an old formula of a product BioForge. I remember the formulator saying he used it because it can decrease estrogen, but is one of very few aromatase inhibitors that is able to do so while having a positive effect on libido. Could be worth looking out for.

7,8 benzoflavone is good. one of the main ingredients in sustain alpha-long with resveratrol.

 

[Toff]

Pretty much everything in your current stack isn’t gonna do much. Zinc, magnesium, and vitamin D are good, but probably won’t make a substantial difference in your test levels unless you had a deficiency. DHEA has painfully low conversion to test, but likely won’t hurt. Trib has been shown dozens of times to not affect test levels. And D aspartic acid was only shown to work in hypogonadal men, but even that is pretty shaky. In healthy males, it has almost no effect.

As for the free test stuff, I’m not sold on boron, but it’s probably fine. I’d shoot for closer to 10mg though. I’m not familiar with avena sativa, but it’s literally just oats. You’d probably get the same benefits just by eating more oatmeal. Testofen, or really any fenugreek extract will most likely do nothing. The traditional usage of fenugreek is to increase lactation, suggesting it increases prolactin, which generally follows an inverse relationship to testosterone. All studies showing positive results were done by the company that manufactures it. Finally, given all the supposed data showing increases in sexual function and strength, somehow only one study showed an increase in testosterone. Divanil has promise though.

I have the testosterone of a 120 year old. So, Im guessing Ill get a lot from these T-Boosters.

Yes I could have real T, I have a prescription if I want one, but the side effects scare me off atm.

 

[Toff]

LONG JACK
TONGKAT ALI


Yeah, but the libido boost! Oh my...

 

[DWeaver]

I have the testosterone of a 120 year old. So, Im guessing Ill get a lot from these T-Boosters.

Yes I could have real T, I have a prescription if I want one, but the side effects scare me off atm.

Low T scares me more than using test. If I die from using test, at least my quality of life will be good vs feeling like crap all the time and wasting away to nothing.

 

[Jeremyk1]

Low T scares me more than using test. If I die from using test, at least my quality of life will be good vs feeling like crap all the time and wasting away to nothing.

This is a great point. Also, tons of guys here are on TRT, you could get loads of info from folks. Just ask around.

 

[DR.D]

Having lots of energy and going hard in the gym is great, but that doesn’t necessarily mean your test boosting stack is doing all that much. Could come from being healthy, having a good diet and training system. Regardless, I’m glad things are going well for you.

To my knowledge, 3,4 divaniltetrahydrofuran has never been tested in humans. ...

Yes, it has. A fellow actually did his dissertation on it years ago and the results were incredible. Granted there were other ingredients to compound the study, but even years before that i saw a good bit of bloodwork from beta testers on the original version of the same product.

But out of all the things I've tried, Oats extract, Boron, Fenugreek (i was actually first to put it in a product here), Trib, Vit. D, Zinc, etc... Nettle Root is hands down the best. Not the leaf, it must be the root. The oligomerized stuff is generally bunk in modern products, and people don't wanna take 10-20 caps/day of Nettle Root 10:1 extract, that's why it's not a more popular ingredient today. But it is the best at raising free test and your sexual performance will testify to that in just a few days if you're taking enough.

 

[mykeylykey]

I have the testosterone of a 120 year old. So, Im guessing Ill get a lot from these T-Boosters.

Yes I could have real T, I have a prescription if I want one, but the side effects scare me off atm.

Low T scares me more than using test. If I die from using test, at least my quality of life will be good vs feeling like crap all the time and wasting away to nothing.

Amen my brothers, been there . . . . . . . this 50 yr old young guy has been on the hunt for the best ways to naturally optimize TESTOSTERONE for years!

Gobs of diff products, brands, quantity, quality, frequency, isolates/compounds, stand-alone's, stack's etc

BEST (supps) . . . . . . . TESTOSTERONE


TOTAL TEST

TRIB (2,000 - 3,000 mg) --- 3X daily
D-ASPARTIC ACID (3 - 6 grms) --- 3X daily
ZMA --- 3X daily
DHEA --- (50mg) 1-2X daily
EFA OILS (fish, flax, primose) --- 3X daily
MONO UNSAT OILS (olive, avocado, coconut) --- 3X daily

FREE-TEST
BORON (3,000 mg) --- 3X daily
VITAMIN D (2,000 iu) --- 3X daily
MAGNESIUM (450 mg) --- 3X daily
ZINC (50 mg) --- 3X daily
EFA OILS ([E fish] (2-3 tbls) --- 3X dailly


50+ yr old guys . . . . . . . feeling like 15 yr young studs!

25% - 50% Bump . . . . . .

- uplifting moods
- feeling of well being
- energized
- deep/dreamy sleep
- early A.M. boners
- focus, intensity, aggression
- stronger lifts
- fuller, firmer . . . . . tighter muscles
- train harder
- f**k longer


Report back soon . . . . . . 'AVENA SATIVA'

cheers,
mykey

 

[ValiantThor08]

LONG JACK
TONGKAT ALI


Yeah, but the libido boost! Oh my...

Viron by BLR is top of the line!

 

[Jeremyk1]

Yes, it has. A fellow actually did his dissertation on it years ago and the results were incredible. Granted there were other ingredients to compound the study, but even years before that i saw a good bit of bloodwork from beta testers on the original version of the same product.

...

But it is the best at raising free test and your sexual performance will testify to that in just a few days if you're taking enough.

I never heard about the human study. Was it an in house test? I would assume Matt Cahill, to my knowledge, he was the one who originally put it in a product.

I used whatever the nettle/divanil type product NutraPlanet had years ago. That stuff kicked in fast as hell! You aren’t kidding about that. I’ve never found anything comparable to that yet. I never tried old school Activate.

 

[thebigt]

I never heard about the human study. Was it an in house test? I would assume Matt Cahill, to my knowledge, he was the one who originally put it in a product.

I used whatever the nettle/divanil type product NutraPlanet had years ago. That stuff kicked in fast as hell! You aren’t kidding about that. I’ve never found anything comparable to that yet. I never tried old school Activate.

you will never find a divanil product as good as the original activate---take that with a grain of salt.

 

[ValiantThor08]

you will never find a divanil product as good as the original activate---take that with a grain of salt.

Could it of been adulterated?

 

[Toff]

oestrogen

I find TOO much and its game over. So pes erase back in the day weas 1-2 pills, 3 killed it (so AVOIDED pro)
So for me, simple oestrogen control is better from things such as

button mushroom
DIM
Calciumdi-glucarate
resveratrol

too much in the sustain alpha/dermacrine line though.

 

[chainsaw]

Yes, it has. A fellow actually did his dissertation on it years ago and the results were incredible. Granted there were other ingredients to compound the study, but even years before that i saw a good bit of bloodwork from beta testers on the original version of the same product.

But out of all the things I've tried, Oats extract, Boron, Fenugreek (i was actually first to put it in a product here), Trib, Vit. D, Zinc, etc... Nettle Root is hands down the best. Not the leaf, it must be the root. The oligomerized stuff is generally bunk in modern products, and people don't wanna take 10-20 caps/day of Nettle Root 10:1 extract, that's why it's not a more popular ingredient today. But it is the best at raising free test and your sexual performance will testify to that in just a few days if you're taking enough.

Is there any nettle extracts on the market today that could compare to your orginal? I used it when it 1st came out and I believe it was beta testers and it was 20 caps a day and you brought it down to 4. Good stuff

 

[DR.D]

I never heard about the human study. Was it an in house test? I would assume Matt Cahill, to my knowledge, he was the one who originally put it in a product.

I used whatever the nettle/divanil type product NutraPlanet had years ago. That stuff kicked in fast as hell! You aren’t kidding about that. I’ve never found anything comparable to that yet. I never tried old school Activate.

Oh man, that was several crashed hard-drives ago (lol) so I doubt I still have a PDF on the study! I wanna say it was a University of Illinois student, and the testing was a true clinical model done at his college for his grad thesis. It wasn't ActivaTe though, but the company DS licensed it too (AX) who changed the name to MassFX. The formula was a refinement that still worked very well.

Alas, the nettle material used in that study was good (and only took about 1/5 compared to the extract) but I haven't assayed anything in recent years that has turned out to be legit oligomerized ligand like that.

 

[DR.D]

Is there any nettle extracts on the market today that could compare to your orginal? I used it when it 1st came out and I believe it was beta testers and it was 20 caps a day and you brought it down to 4. Good stuff

I just get the best 10:1 i can locate now, and use it "strategically." It does play out after a month or so, so it's not an everyday supp anyways, but great at certain times with esters on cycle or the beginning of PCTs.

I forgot that you participated in that testing, Chainsaw! But yeah, that was the best I've ever used also. I wish I was still in touch with Matt so I could have him remind me of the vendor.

 

[thebigt]

I just get the best 10:1 i can locate now, and use it "strategically." It does play out after a month or so, so it's not an everyday supp anyways, but great at certain times with esters on cycle or the beginning of PCTs.

I forgot that you participated in that testing, Chainsaw! But yeah, that was the best I've ever used also. I wish I was still in touch with Matt so I could have him remind me of the vendor.

really glad to see you back posting regularly!!!

 

[Garyboy]

I just get the best 10:1 i can locate now, and use it "strategically." It does play out after a month or so, so it's not an everyday supp anyways, but great at certain times with esters on cycle or the beginning of PCTs.

I forgot that you participated in that testing, Chainsaw! But yeah, that was the best I've ever used also. I wish I was still in touch with Matt so I could have him remind me of the vendor.

How many mg’s per day would you suggest taking? Thanks.

 

[DR.D]

really glad to see you back posting regularly!!!

Thanks, T. It's great to see you and other original members, my ol' buddies, still holding down the fort at AM! But where the heck is Bobo? lol

I see you're repping. Is Iconic the new version of PP's old company?

 

[DR.D]

How many mg’s per day would you suggest taking? Thanks.

Same as before, 750mg caps, 10-20 per day all in one sitting. I've tried splitting it up and it doesn't seem to effect efficacy either way, and 10 works eventually but 20 works by the next day usually.

 

[delsolrob]

really glad to see you back posting regularly!!!

x2

Glad to see you here old friend! Last time I think we chatted was before PHF went offline.

 

[delsolrob]

Thanks, T. It's great to see you and other original members, my ol' buddies, still holding down the fort at AM! But where the heck is Bobo? lol

I see you're repping. Is Iconic the new version of PP's old company?

Iconic is something I'd put together to bring back some of our favorite products...still working on putting together some synergistic product additions to the Iconic Line EndoAmp and Sustain were a couple of my favorite products...I couldn't wait to get them back to the market

 

[DR.D]

You know me, Rob! Good to see you here again.

I like the Iconic thing. I was just asking T about it, lol.

 

[Beau]

As long as we are at it - Dr. D - it is always a pleasure to hear from you. I hope all is well.

 

[Beau]

Glad to see you here old friend! Last time I think we chatted was before PHF went offline.

I miss PHF. There were some good people there, and some true characters - and some of the most hysterical posts I've ever seen. I know Wesley made an attempt to keep it going for a while.

 

[delsolrob]

I miss PHF. There were some good people there, and some true characters - and some of the most hysterical posts I've ever seen. I know Wesley made an attempt to keep it going for a while.

Agreed! Was a true shame that Nat let it go! Nos and I did everything we could...

A wealth of knowledge died when that place went offline

 

[DR.D]

As long as we are at it - Dr. D - it is always a pleasure to hear from you. I hope all is well.

I still have the same number B, call a brotha! I'm sure we'd have lots to catch up on considering all the female drama last we spoke.

 

[DR.D]

Agreed! Was a true shame that Nat let it go! Nos and I did everything we could...

A wealth of knowledge died when that place went offline

Amen to that, it's a shame. I tried to help her too but her problems were building up faster than she could fix them. I hope she's doing better now.

 

[thebigt]

Thanks, T. It's great to see you and other original members, my ol' buddies, still holding down the fort at AM! But where the heck is Bobo? lol

I see you're repping. Is Iconic the new version of PP's old company?

I see rob covered that, lol....keep posting D!!!

 

[DaeshDontSurf]

Amen my brothers, been there . . . . . . . this 50 yr old young guy has been on the hunt for the best ways to naturally optimize TESTOSTERONE for years!

Gobs of diff products, brands, quantity, quality, frequency, isolates/compounds, stand-alone's, stack's etc

maybe i miss in long thread - did you actually get bloodwork to see levels? heck, even now would be useful - unless very lucky man, at 50, you be low. since supps only good for 100, 200 if gods smiling, spend the ~$70 and go get female hormone panel (or better but that cheapest). how much you spend in month? free test (shbg) more and more not being worried about in trt medical community due to shbg being able to dock at androgen receptor - check usual suspects: dr's kominiarek, nichols, rousier, etc...

lol at guy that say "bloods not matter, how feel?" hahaha - i'm mid 50's and when went on trt felt like beast - lean, strong... test was like 280 hahahaha. yeah, no need for bloodwork...

 

[Jeremyk1]

free test (shbg) more and more not being worried about in trt medical community due to shbg being able to dock at androgen receptor -

I’ve actually heard this also. I think what I read said that hormones can be unbound from SHBG after entering a cell. I forget now. Do you have links to research showing this? Pretty interesting subject.

 

[chemjr]

BEST ANTI-ESTROGENS (mild)

EG Anybody like the way they LOOK and FEEL taking . . . . . .

CHRYSIN
INDOLE 3- CARBINOL
RESVERATROL
DIM


Thanks fellas, appreciate any constructive feedback,
cheers,
mykey

Love DIM, chrysin, (i dont take DIM and I3C together. I3C is broken down into DIM sorta, so I just take the "active" form and use DIM), and resveratrol. Resveratrol is great stuff for heart, liver and estro to a slight extent depending on what extract you're taking. Also feel zinc is missing as it helps modulate estro.

 

[chemjr]

No disrespect but this thread is kinda childish with all the cap letters! The title of the thread is about supplements to boost free test. Have you ever run bloodwork tp check if any of the multitude of t boosters you ve used has actually had any effect on your free test levels?

All you seem to go by is your boner levels!

I have indeed! And have my 3rd version of a natty test booster and estro control all in one coming out in small batches now. Wahoo!