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Best supplement for strength output

Prime. hit or miss product, but if you respond to it, you will never use another natty product (for strength) again. If you like Prime solo, add in DAA, Erase, Anabeta and you have one heck of a stack.
 
Food...food grows muscle :)

Answer + science right there
 
What the hell is Amentoflavone? I read neurons write up but I don't see anyone selling it
 
Quadzilla99 said:
What the hell is Amentoflavone? I read neurons write up but I don't see anyone selling it
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I know it's in App Nuts Uncut. I'd be interested in reading Neurons write up, was it in this forums Supp Science?
 
ArA-X-gels are getting some great results right now,and there are a few logs going to check out!Also never forget the common ones-Creatine,Citrulline Malate,DAA,and food,oh the power of a good diet :D
 
domore said:
Creatine
Caffeine
Ephedrine
Amentoflavone
Nitrates
Citrulline Malate
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Winrar! ArA and TMG have some decent data on this (and I like both personally).
 
domore said:
Creatine
Caffeine
Ephedrine
Amentoflavone
Nitrates
Citrulline Malate
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OnionKnight said:
lol 2 answers, no science yet
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You need science for Creatine, Ephedrine, and Caffeine? Three of the most studied compounds.

Amentoflavone:

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Nitrates:

"Nitric oxide protects the skeletal muscle Ca 2+ release channel from oxidation induced activation." - Role of nitric oxide in skeletal muscle: synthesis, distribution and functional importance; MB Reid - Acta Physiologica Scandinavica, 1998 - Wiley Online Library

and

"The ATP cost of contraction in skeletal myocytes is essentially the sum of ATP consumption via the interaction between actin and myosin (actomyosin-ATPase) and calcium (Ca2+) pumping in the sarcoplasmic reticulum (Ca2+-ATPase), with membrane depolarization (Na+-K+-ATPase) making a further small contribution to the total ATP turnover (6). NO has been demonstrated to slow cross-bridge cycling kinetics (25, 34), reduce ryanodine activity, and therefore Ca2+ release (33) and inhibit Ca2+-ATPase activity (71), and NO may therefore have a regulatory influence on the ATP cost of force production. [...] in vivo data suggest that the reduction in V?o2 following NO3- supplementation is principally a result of a reduced rate of ATP turnover in the contracting myocytes, i.e., a blunting of the changes in high-energy phosphates would reduce the stimuli to oxidative phosphorylation. The reduction in muscle metabolic perturbation with NO3- supplementation, including a sparing of the rate of depletion of the finite PCr reserve, was associated with an improved tolerance of high-intensity exercise." -Bailey SJ, Fulford J, Vanhatalo A, Winyard PG, Blackwell JR, DiMenna FJ, Wilkerson DP, Benjamin N, Jones AM. Dietary nitrate supplementation enhances muscle contractile efficiency during knee-extensor exercise in humans. J Appl Physiol. 2010 Jul;109(1):135-48. doi: 10.1152/japplphysiol.00046.2010.

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o Dietary supplementation with inorganic nitrate has beneficial effects on skeletal muscle responses to exercise.
o Both mitochondrial and extra-mitochondrial explanations have been proposed.
o Contractile force of fast-twitch muscles was enhanced in mice supplemented with 1 mm NaNO3 in drinking water for 7 days.
o Myoplasmic free [Ca2+] during tetanic stimulation was increased in fast-twitch muscles of nitrate-supplemented mice and this was accompanied by increased expression of calsequestrin 1 and the dihydropyridine receptor.
o These results provide a new mechanism by which nitrate exerts beneficial effects on muscle function with applications to sports performance and a potential therapeutic role in conditions with muscle weakness.

Citrulline Malate:

Role of nitric oxide in muscle contractility:
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I am well aware of creatine and caffeine, i just wanted to know if there were any others out there. As far as ephedrine, im not sure about using it as i like to keep stimulant use to a minimum also it is illegal in the ncaa
 
No one has included AAKG's? As a precursor to nitric oxide it's one of the best. i see citrulline malate was also noted which works very similar but on personal experience I would prefer aakgs. Also d aspartic acid ( as it increases natural testosterone) , obviously creatine monohydrate and beta alanine has been shown to increase strength and endurance is weight lifting
 
Sprinterguy4 said:
I am well aware of creatine and caffeine, i just wanted to know if there were any others out there. As far as ephedrine, im not sure about using it as i like to keep stimulant use to a minimum also it is illegal in the ncaa
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So is caffeine
 
bolt10 said:
Winrar! ArA and TMG have some decent data on this (and I like both personally).
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Good additions here can't forget ArA and TMG
 
I wish I gained any strength from any supps ive taken, I learnt just upping calories increased my power output every week! Im subbed, def interested in this thread. :)
 
purebred said:
One big world of information called Google: you still can't figure out which supplement to take to aid with strength gains.

Joke's on you, brother :)
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Your avatar made me flick my laptop.. :(

Omega Ultima
SAN Fierce
SNS CVM Xtreme (old skool)
MAN Clout

Those products I feel have helped me a great deal with strength output.
 
Quadzilla99 said:
What the hell is Amentoflavone? I read neurons write up but I don't see anyone selling it
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You should try Applied Nutriceuticals Uncut. It is a pre-workout capsule that includes Amentoflavone in the formula. It really does wonders for strength and almost immediately too.

PM Obey46 and he can set you up with some samples.
 
Dewey99 said:
You should try Applied Nutriceuticals Uncut. It is a pre-workout capsule that includes Amentoflavone in the formula. It really does wonders for strength and almost immediately too.

PM Obey46 and he can set you up with some samples.
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Uncut is one of the only designer supplements (that I know of) that is readily available that uses amentoflavone. Good stuff!
 
Dewey99 said:
You should try Applied Nutriceuticals Uncut. It is a pre-workout capsule that includes Amentoflavone in the formula. It really does wonders for strength and almost immediately too.

PM Obey46 and he can set you up with some samples.
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Check PM Dewey
 
Ive been reading studies on arachidonic acid and so far most of the studies suggest that it doesent have any "superior" role in building more muscle

For those that claim so plz add in the studies done.
 
runner_79 said:
Check PM Dewey
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I am no longer with Appnut, hence why I suggested you contact Obey46. I was merely recommending the best product I knew of that could suit the OP's needs.

Quadzilla99 said:
So, what is the effective dose of amentaflavone?
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I'm not positive on this one, but Amentoflavone is something that you need a lot of. I would just use Uncut as stated before. In addition to the Amentoflavone it has some other solid ingredients to help you improve your performance. Obey46 or Drooks10 can get you samples for sure.
 
Dewey99 said:
I am no longer with Appnut, hence why I suggested you contact Obey46. I was merely recommending the best product I knew of that could suit the OP's needs.

I'm not positive on this one, but Amentoflavone is something that you need a lot of. I would just use Uncut as stated before. In addition to the Amentoflavone it has some other solid ingredients to help you improve your performance. Obey46 or Drooks10 can get you samples for sure.
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Wait, what?
 
jimbuick said:
Wait, what?
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I was surprised you hadn't noticed my empty signature in your log for the last week.

I love Appnut and their products, so it wasn't anything to do with the company. It does suck that I have to buy my own Uncut now!
 
Dewey99 said:
I was surprised you hadn't noticed my empty signature in your log for the last week.

I love Appnut and their products, so it wasn't anything to do with the company. It does suck that I have to buy my own Uncut now!
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I'm normally on AM with the mobile app so I normally don't notice sig changes lol...
 
Sprinterguy4 said:
Increased mind muscle connection results in better technique which feels like a strength increase.
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Bingo. Choline is very underrated as an ergogenic aid. This is partially what separates Enhanced from other pre-training supplements: not one, but two form of choline.
 
Rodja said:
Bingo. Choline is very underrated as an ergogenic aid. This is partially what separates Enhanced from other pre-training supplements: not one, but two form of choline.
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Actually, altering choline levels and manipulating Ach metabolism has proven to be of no ergogenic benefit in normal people.
 
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