nvr2loud said:Methyl DX-3
Just make sure you do all your research before starting any kind of pro-hormone or steroid.
P4D2A022 said:^^ oyeah, i think its phera-vol by est right?
WhatsaRoid? said:I was going to say this one..man i remember when it was on sale for like 15 bux haha..
P4D2A022 said:^^ yeah thats it.. it seems like it could be chillin with NO in there.. anyone ever try it??
PumpingIron said:Why, NO does nothing but give you a better pump. On superdrol that doesn't seem like the best idea.
P4D2A022 said:Methyl-Drol XT by SNS is top notch right?? I was considering this clone, but is there a better one out??
Rossi2 said:Read about this product that Anabolic X just came out this- MAss herd it was some good ****- no joke
P4D2A022 said:m-drol is a superdrol-clone by CEL! just came out, decently priced too bro! less than $30 at 90 caps
P4D2A022 said:what you talking about son??
PumpingIron said:Why, NO does nothing but give you a better pump. On superdrol that doesn't seem like the best idea.
Rossi2 said:Anabolic Xtreme
Mass FX-very close to superdrol:icon_lol:
P4D2A022 said:nah dude, i heard mass-fx is totally different and doesnt need a post cycle therapy
WhatsaRoid? said:I was going to say this one..man i remember when it was on sale for like 15 bux haha..
P4D2A022 said:can someone make a little list of superdrol clones for me?
P4D2A022 said:nah dude, i heard mass-fx is totally different and doesnt need a post cycle therapy
Rossi2 said:i hetrd they released Mass fx b cuz superdrol got banned
if u do sum research its chemicals r similar
Moyer said:You're just full of sage advice. :blink:
Rossi2 said:and wtf r u??? a specialist in steriods...i think not-
That's not what he is saying, read his post again.P4D2A022 said:^^ what?? mass fx doesnt need post cycle therapy
Rossi2 said:i hetrd they released Mass fx b cuz superdrol got banned
if u do sum research its chemicals r similar
stxnas said:superdrol and Mass FX are nothing alike. Mass FX's main ingredients are from things such as plant sterols and lingnans. superdrol is nothing of the sort. Mass FX and Hyperdrol were released as alternatives to PHs/Designers.
PumpingIron said:This is one "well-informed" thread...I feel smarter just reading it.
Come on guys, Mass FX is a great compound but IS NOT a steroid. Superdrol is another great compound, THAT IS a steroid.
PumpingIron said:Steroids as in anabolic steroids...I see where I made my mistake...
Three Def's from American Heritage...
Any of a large class of organic compounds having as a basis 17 carbon atoms arranged in four rings fused together. Steroids include many biologically important compounds, including cholesterol and other sterols, the sex hormones (such as testosterone and estrogen), bile acids, adrenal hormones, plant alkaloids, and certain forms of vitamins.
Any of various hormones having the structure of a steroid that are made synthetically, especially for use in medicine.
An anabolic steroid.
...My fault.
Rossi2 said:i hetrd they released Mass fx b cuz superdrol got banned
if u do sum research its chemicals r similar
Dr. D said:Have you seen the Russian study of the 6-keto version, the most abundant metabolite of 25R? Twice as strong as Dbol! It's kind of a pro-form of that.
3PeteNC said:actually these compounds are nothing alike at all! "25R-diol" is an altered version of diosgenin, a plant sterol (dont let that word fool you, diosgenin is inert in the body), which AX claims is
meaning that the "25R" gets metabolized into something that is twice as strong as D-bol? fishy?
also Pumping iron wasn't wrong when he said it is not a steroid. It isn't. ALL steroids have a tetracyclic system of fused six carbon rings(3) and a five carbon ring everytime, no more, no less, 25R has another five carbon ring fused to the forth ring (the first five carbon ring). it is not a substituent of the forth ring as this would classify it as a steroid. it is fused at C-16 C-17, placing it in ANOTHER class of chemical componds called SPIROSTANS, which admittedly are steroid DERIVATIVES but definitely not steroids!
thesinner said:I see what your are getting at, but how would this logic explain the additional ring in aldosterone, or the pyrazole ring in Stanozol? I'm pretty sure that, despite the fact that it is classified as a spiro and it's chemical properties will differ greatly from non-spiro compounds, it can also be classed as a steroid.
3PeteNC said:Yes i see what you mean with the Stanozol, but aldersterone does not contain another fused ring, stanozol does but i believe it is on the first cyclohexane ring and thus makes a difference
thesinner said:And you may (or may not) be right about your previous statements on the spiro- compounds. I tried looking them up in Brown, Foote, & Iverson 4th ed. , but they don't have a section for Spiro- compounds. For reference, they define steroid in the book as "a plant or animal lipid having the characteristic tetracyclic ring structure of the steroid nucleus, namely three six-membered rings and one five-membered ring."