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best steroid for strength

WHICH STEROID GAVE YOU BEST QUALITY STRENGTH GAINS?

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CREAO said:
damn man, did you do any bench programs or anything while on cycle?
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Yeah I was hitting an 8-4-2-1-4 program my HS football coach made for me... I'd hit chest 2x/wk... the first thing I did was found my 1rm, which was 250 when I started, so I put the weights on accordingly, the program itself was supposed to make your bench go up 30lbs, it worked for me in HS. But when I felt like I could add weight, I did... and by week 4 I repped 320... my workout buddy was like "dude you're on something else, you're not taking JUST superdrol..." but it WAS my first cycle of anything other than NO / creatine... Tren / test will be my next cycle... I'm done with the orals...
 
in my opinion the old bread and butter, if ur willing to take the risk of the sides A-BOMBS,andSUSTANON BABY. "THERES NO SUCH THING AS TOO BIG OR BIG ENOUGH. Just b-smart and stay healthy.
 
Bread and Butter

in my opinion the old bread and butter, if ur willing to take the risk of the sides A-BOMBS,andSUSTANON BABY. "THERES NO SUCH THING AS TOO BIG OR BIG ENOUGH. Just b-smart and stay healthy.
 
hethcliff said:
i'm getting to start my test e, tren a, and drol cycle in a week. looking for some good mass gains and awesome strength gains. i'll let you know how it goes strength wise.
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Cycle looks familiar...currently on 100 mg drol ED,1200 mg test400 and 800 mg eq. Will be adding tren ace for 6 weeks at beginning of week 3. On day 7 now and the Drol is kicking in big time. With the tren I really have to be careful not to tear anything, the strength gains will be incredible. Maybe start a log of your cycle?? I'm just too lazy and I dont feel like catching flack for the doses I'm using and having to justify it...

P.S. I voted for tren in the poll (Drol is really almos the same for strength but i docked it points in my book cus of the bloat), but for some reason I remember getting really strong at the tail end of a test/deca cycle when i threw in 60 mg Winny ED. I've always said this and i'll say it again, everyone's body works differently and responds differently to different doses of different meds. Just try em all!
 
Well, added tren ace 75 mg EOD to my cycle about 10 days ago...incline dumbell presses are up from 9 reps with 140's to 7 with 150's. Barbell curls up 20 lb for same reps. Close grip bench up from 315x8 to 365x7. What can i say, i love my tren.
 
I used d-bol, deca, and test cyp.
I was very happy with the results, although I hear anadrol will pack on some serious assed gains, but I hear it's extremely toxic on your system.
I skeered of that ****, too many bad sides for me.:run:
 
tren is best for strength hands down and test is the best for mass. so imagine putting these together as a couple strengh and mass results in ripped massive muscles bestcombo bro.
 
Anyone use T-bol for strength? I hear it's the best of D-bol and anavar, good strength gains, nice lean mass gains that are easily maintained.
 
also i'm on my first cycle right now 500mg of Test E for 15 weeks but i'm already brain storming my second cycle, i'm thinking of this:

Weeks 1-10 150mg Test Prop eod
weeks 1-10 75mg tren Ace eod
weeks 1-10 2.5mg Femara eod
weeks 1-8 40mg Anavar
weeks 1-11 0.5mg Cabaser M/F
weeks 1-12 425mg Glucophage 4x daily

And thoughts? Strength is just as important to me as size and i can get var and t-bol for very good prices, i've heard tren is king for strength and size so it's def staying. Is the var in their also too much? I'm on week 2 on my first cycle and i'm 274lbs currently so keep inmind i'll easily be 290+ by the time i do this cycle. It's meant to be a recomposition cycle with some nice strength gains.
 
tren hands down. GH is great too. Im setting personal bests every few weeks on my cycle. Yesterday did chest hit 335x8 on inclines and 405x6 on flat bench. Great stuff.
 
CHAPS said:
Anyone use T-bol for strength? I hear it's the best of D-bol and anavar, good strength gains, nice lean mass gains that are easily maintained.
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I know of a dude who is trying it out. So far he said he is liking it over Dbol and he is seeing results very quickly, with no bloat as of yet.
 
Test is by FAR the best steroid fro gaining strength and muscle mass. It is also, IMO the most versatile AAS available. You can use it for bulking or cutting depending on doses and what it is stacked with.

Test and dbol can't be beat as far as a strength/mass cycle goes. A good amount of testosterone cyp, enanthate, or a blend like sustanon or omnadren and 50-100mg/day Dbol (optional but common) is probably the best and most popular way to get strong (crazy strong) and gain as much mass as humanly possible. I've seen many pro powerlifters talk about their pre-meet preperation/cycles and most of the time it consists of 2 things-- 2 to 3 grams of test/wk. Some add in dbol or anadrol, but high-dose test seems to be the favorite for many strength athletes, powerlifters and many offseason bodybuilders. THose new to AAS/testosterone injectables usually will achieve great results from using 250 to 500mg of sustanon/omnadren, test enanthate, or cypionate twice a week for a total of 500-1000mg weekly. I haven't experienced it personally or seen it, but I've read rumors and supposed cycles of guys using up to FIVE GRAMS of testosterone per week and claim they get gains that are unbelievable and cannot be duplicated with any other drugs. Interesting, most likely expesive though and definately can't be healthy.

But test is king for strength/mass. I guarantee most users would get better gains from test than ANY amount of any other steroid, be it anadrol, tren, dbol, etc. because once you go past 200-300mg of anadrol and dbol the gains don't increase much/the sides really are terrible, and with tren enanthate most cannot tolerate over 800mg/wk--and I doubt in much higher doses the gains would continue to climb. But the average experienced AAS user tolerate up to 2-3 grams of test a week provided they have the neccessary auxilleries on hand and make gains that cannot be replicated by any other drugs.

My 2 cent ramble.
 
i do agree test is the best win it comes to mass bro but it is close like the poll indicates but have you ever done a cycle of tren acetate bro it is more powerful. Higher doses may work on some people but not everyone reacts to high doses bro. also remember high doses may mean more strength but also high side effects anything over 2000 grams of week of test i think is useless your body can only take so much. ever heard of the saying the faster the gains come the faster they go. i belive in it why take 3000 mg and lose it all . take long cycle and do 250-500 and you are good to go.

i voted for tren and test close
 
CHAPS said:
also i'm on my first cycle right now 500mg of Test E for 15 weeks but i'm already brain storming my second cycle, i'm thinking of this:

Weeks 1-10 150mg Test Prop eod
weeks 1-10 75mg tren Ace eod
weeks 1-10 2.5mg Femara eod
weeks 1-8 40mg Anavar
weeks 1-11 0.5mg Cabaser M/F
weeks 1-12 425mg Glucophage 4x daily
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The cabaser is not going to be needed since you're only taking 225-300mg tren ace per week. If you were taking 150mg ED or something, I'd recommend the cabaser. It doesn't hurt to keep it on hand anyway but I seriously doubt you'll need it.
Ditto with the Femara. That is a VERY high dose of Letrozole, and you are taking a very small amount of test prop--150mg EOD=(3.5x150)=525mg total weekly. Plus, test prop generally causes fewer estrogenic side-effects than an equal amount of test cyp, sust, or test enanthate due to its short half-life.
The anavar looks good.

I'd advise you to up your test prop dose to 200mg EOD (about 700mg total per week) and drop the femara for arimidex, which is much more forgiving and just as effective for preventing/ridding one of gyno and/or estrogenic water retention. Usually .25mg EOD of Arimidex will take care of 500mg per week test. If you up the test dose to 200mg EOD maybe .5mg arimidex would be a good middle-ground. If you INSIST on using femara, take NO MORE than 1/4 tab (or .625mg) every other or every 3rd day with 150mg EOD prop. More than that and you stand the chance of inhibiting your test gains. If you up the prop dose to 200-250mg EOD, I'd still stick with the 1/4 dose EOD or E3D.

Starting out with 75mg tren ace EOD is okay, but you will probably want to quickly up the dose to 100-150mg EOD as 75mg EOD is pretty much the minimum effective dose AND you are much larger than most guys.

Here is what I'd do:
-Increase the test to AT LEAST 200mg EOD. Preferably, at your weight, I would do 250mg EOD. 150mg EOD is a very very small dose and the increase of 50-100mg EOD will yield MUCH BETTER gains.

2-Ditch the femara. It is a huge overkill at your test doses. If you up the test to 200 or 250mg EOD it is still probably too powerful. Arimidex is a much better choice, and the most you will need is .5mg EOD. But if you insist on femara, take 1/4 dose EOD max at 150 to 250mg of test EOD.

3-see how the tren affects you and if you feel like you can increase the dose--do so. 75mg EOD is a very conservative dose and you will do much better at 75mg ED or 100-150mg EOD.

4-Don't take the cabaser unless you start getting symptoms of tren gyno. Save it for when you up the dose (at 150mg eod you might start getting some nasty sides, but I doubt it) OR for future cycles of hgiher dose/more powerful (i.e. tren enanthate) trenbolones.

Otherwise you look good. One other thing you might think of doing is extending the test prop an extra week or two past the tren just to help ease into PCT better. Some people do this and swear by it. Might want to research it.

just my 2 cents.
 
yeah i agree strength means size. i mean the more strength u have the more size you put on. tren and test is the combo bro you have something from both worlds
 
Cuffs said:
Not necessarily true...
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exactly...someone that does a tren only cycle will be smaller than a person that does a test only cycle but the tren only will be a buttload stronger. A good reason why test/tren is the best cycle around.
 
Thanx for your advice Bobbyray, I currently have 6 weeks left of my first cycle, but i bumped it up to 750mg/week and that seems to be workin better, i'm 290lbs right now :woohoo:. I want my second cycle to be a cutter but size is ALWAYS welcome so on your suggestions and some more thinking, how about this:


Weeks 1-11 100mg Test Prop Ed
Weeks 1-10 112.5mg Tren Ace EOD
Weeks 1-12 .5mg Cabaser M/F
Weeks 1-11 .25-.5 mg Arimidex
Weeks 1-12 100mg Clen+ketotifen

I'm happy about the gains i've made so far on my current cycle considering i've lost a good amount of fat also, especially around my waist, and this is what i wanted more size with some fatloss, if it was a STRAIGHT bulk i'd be 300lbs easy. I wish I had more of a "feel" effect though like ya i'm in a good mood all the time strength is up but nothing crazy (i was way stronger on M1t), i think it's more of size then strength steroid. I'm currently using IBE Labs Femara and it's 2.5mg/ml it's liquid so if i want to use 1.25mg should i do that every 3rd day? I say 1.25mg because that's easiest. Also i think your right about the dosing of the test and such as it is i think i would have been fine doing a full gram of test a week, i'm gettin absolutely no negative sides. I forgot to mention i'm around 18% BF right now.
 
Rocky82 said:
... A good reason why test/tren is the best cycle around.
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I don't know about that. I'd almost rather do test/deca over test/tren. I mean, tren works, but it ain't all that. It takes about 100-150mg/d to do it for me and the sides just suck. I'm too old to be putting up with all than acne these days!
 
deca over tren is that a joke tren is 4 times a powerful than deca. deca in my books is weak steroid shuts you down all the water is all bloat. test, tren baby the best.
 
even winny is better atleast you get solid gains not bloat. and you keep most of your gains as well from winstol. fina is da best baby.when god made fina he knew humans would become animals .like the roid monkey
 
Haha, yeah. I may have agreed with you 10 or 15 years ago, but I get equal gains from 1000mg dec/wk as I do from 150mg TA/d. For the difference in sides, forget about it! Besides, everybody knows the devil made fina! :p

I like test/anadrol for fast stregth best. Test/4ohMN ain't too bad either if you wanna avoid the bloat.
 
mesomorph said:
Tren for sure. Rates right up there equal with Test in every other way
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Agreed...as far as the folks that didnt vote for tren, I'd have to surmise that they have either never tried it, or tried fake gear. I've used pretty much everything under the sun at least once and NOTHING comes close to the strength gains on a tren/test cycle.
 
Just for strength with out regards to weight gain?? If so then it's got to be halostein. Very Harsh but Powerlifters love it.
 
I'm using tren ace at 75mg eod and i'm getting STRONGER while dieting, it's crazy. I'd like to stack Test Prop/Tren Ace/Halo sometime, I love getting stronger.
 
CHAPS said:
I'm using tren ace at 75mg eod and i'm getting STRONGER while dieting, it's crazy. I'd like to stack Test Prop/Tren Ace/Halo sometime, I love getting stronger.
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I used to do a fina/halo combo all the time it was my favorite. The strength and Hardness are insane. It's not a get big stack but for me since i had weight limit considerations it was the bomb
 
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