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best steroid for strength

WHICH STEROID GAVE YOU BEST QUALITY STRENGTH GAINS?


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This is what my cycle looked like

Test E 1-10 @ 750mgs
Tren A 1-12 @ 100mgs eod
Anadrol 1-6 @ 75mgs ed
It probaly isnt the healthiest cycle I have ran, but I was "strong like bull"(Ben Stiller)
 
x_muscle said:
i agree with you 330lb bench press is no joke.
just did a few of those the other day...not too bad, 500lb free weight squats...now thats not a joke, a bit scary stepping back off the rack...havent done one since
 
Nate Dawg said:
It was for both you and prolangtum, thanks riskarb. I want to try anadrol for the strength, but I really dont want the bloat, I hate losing the water, just that feeling of "shrinking" I guess you could say. Maybe run .5mg ed of a-dex would keep most of the bloat at bay?

No... Anadrol is good for strength, makes ya feel like **** though. Doesn't do the same things for size (for me) that dbol did though. And adex doesn't seem to be that helpful either...
 
I bloat like crazy on anadrol, but the pumps are incredible. If you eat very clean you can limit it to an extent. I am a huge proponent of Oral Turinabol... Sides are cake by comparison, not nearly as hepatotoxic. BD makes t-bol in 10mg tabs -- 40-50mg daily will do ya. Front loading a test/tren cycle with t-bol is a great stack. Difficult to source, however.
 
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Are the strength gains of turinabol comparable to that of dbol in your experience? I have been reading a fair amount about it lately, and am very interested in trying it, but like you said it is very hard to find.
 
I'd say the gains are comparable, in what you'll maintain when the cycle is complete. The gains are very similar to high-dose anavar; I would equate 40mg of t-bol to 80mg of anavar. 'Var is easier to source for paper, may want to go that route.
 
i heard t-bol is very mild steroid, from big cat profile its says its comparable to winny. but its dam expesive, only good thing about it that it may improve lipid profile
 
x_muscle said:
i heard t-bol is very mild steroid, from big cat profile its says its comparable to winny. but its dam expesive, only good thing about it that it may improve lipid profile


T-bol can be had pretty cheap from BD. About half the cost of var.
 
exnihilo said:
Tren didn't give me any strength really... It just burned calories like DNP.

DBOL is another story entire :D Next cycle is going to include anadrol, we'll see how that rolls.
Nothing manly about a 39inch waiste. Just j/k
 
Null said:
I have been on 250mg test-e 2x a week and about 60-75mg (homebrew) tren ED for about 4-5 weeks now and have had awesome gains. I've gained about 35lbs with no noticable fat gain, if anything, I am leaner and more vascular. I've been keeping myself on a low carb diet with a little cardio here and there throughout the week. The side effects are mildly harsh. I have alittle trouble getting to sleep at night, I've been sweating more than usual, and the acne has been creeping up on me for the past week.
Any additional hair loss, sexual disfuctions or aggressiveness?
 
mass_builder said:
that movie drives me crazy........how can you gain 30lb in month from eating 3x day only!?

i mean assuming each meal is 1000 cal.........that 3000 cal ed

you cant gain from 30 lb form 300cals/ed in a month!!!
I am trying to se how you find it so damn hard to believe when it was documented on film. Plus he did almost no physical activities and probably consumed more than 3000kals per day. Plus probably had very low metabolism to begin with.
 
He was super-sizing everything when asked. A super-size meal can easily run 2000cals when including the pies he was ordering. I'd imagine a high-intake day exceeded 5000cals easily.
 
Poobah said:
I've been on a Test enan/EQ cycle for about 10 weeks, At the 9 week mark I added tren 75mg ED... Was a total of 33 pounds up today (10 weeks 6 days). 7 or 8 more weeks to go. Anyway strength definately picking up, and 4 or so of those pounds came in the last week since adding tren. Not using an Anti-E, per say, In stead I'm taking 600mg 5aa cyp per week. But I still definately have a bit of bloat (not much)... and Very definately some fat gain. *Cry*

I'm wondering if I'll hit 45 pounds?

Edit: I should also point Out I'm using 15iu of humalog Everymorning, and pwo.
Explain your strength gains though
 
BigSwede said:
He was super-sizing everything when asked. A super-size meal can easily run 2000cals when including the pies he was ordering. I'd imagine a high-intake day exceeded 5000cals easily.

If you listen closely while watching the movie, he talks to the nutritionist and she calculates his average daily caloric intake based on his "eating journal" to be around 4000 calories.
 
asap nutrition said:
It's a joke when your dumb ass try to lift it and you know that you can't do so.
It's also a joke if I try to lift 330 Free weights... I now pretty much do all my lifting at the gym, and have moved from an almost strictly smith routine to an almost Strictly Free weight routine.

My stabilizer muscles truly do suck... I can take 330 pounds off the bar, but no way in hell would i dare try to do an actual bench.

It's an Eye opener for sure. And at least I've made the crossover.
 
Superdrol has been great to me, granted it's the only cycle I've done so I don't have much to compare it to, but my bench is up 70 lbs. (to 320) in the past 4 weeks, with 3 of those weeks running SD.
 
exnihilo said:
If you listen closely while watching the movie, he talks to the nutritionist and she calculates his average daily caloric intake based on his "eating journal" to be around 4000 calories.
Ahh, ok. It's been awhile since I rented it. 4000 cals and probably 250 fat grams. Ugh
 
Looks like tren hit it in this poll. I haven't used enough to know, but I'm looking forward to knowing soon enough....

JC
 
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Originally Posted by mass_builder
that movie drives me crazy........how can you gain 30lb in month from eating 3x day only!?

i mean assuming each meal is 1000 cal.........that 3000 cal ed

you cant gain from 30 lb form 300cals/ed in a month!!!


I am trying to se how you find it so damn hard to believe when it was documented on film. Plus he did almost no physical activities and probably consumed more than 3000kals per day. Plus probably had very low metabolism to begin with.
MSG. MSG will cause fat gain and insulin imbalance, and McDonalds contains numerous sources of MSG. Look at those Chicken McNuggets. All MSG there.
 
he had a low metabolism, did no exercise, and it was all insulin spikes...plus, each meal was about 1300-1500 cal, he had deserts, and he had sodas
 
Poobah said:
My status...

I'm up to 318 pounds... 6' tall even.

I got a cut hard... after all this.. I'm not sure of BF%

Waist is 42"
Biceps 19+
Forarms 14+

Lifts :

Squating Free weights 350 pounds for 8 reps... (will do more this weekend, but I weigh 318 :P)
Benching 3 sets of 8 for 330 (at home on smith)
OK, before I go on I must say that I am in fact a skinny bastard who cant lift 1/5 of what most of you guys put up, but hey, im trying and ive progressed a lot since last year. That being said...

I noticed that something about these lifts dont add up, especially for all the sauce being taken.

Squatting 350 8 time while you are 318lbs is only 1.11 times bodyweight. Thats equalivent to a 6'0 180lb guy squatting 200 lbs for 8. Not impressive at all.

Also the bench seems off as thats only 1.04 times bodyweight. (180lb male benching 187ish)

I think you may have put down the wrong stats, if not... I dont know, im sure someone else knows what to tell you.
 
captain chet said:
OK, before I go on I must say that I am in fact a skinny bastard who cant lift 1/5 of what most of you guys put up, but hey, im trying and ive progressed a lot since last year. That being said...

I noticed that something about these lifts dont add up, especially for all the sauce being taken.

Squatting 350 8 time while you are 318lbs is only 1.11 times bodyweight. Thats equalivent to a 6'0 180lb guy squatting 200 lbs for 8. Not impressive at all.

Also the bench seems off as thats only 1.04 times bodyweight. (180lb male benching 187ish)

I think you may have put down the wrong stats, if not... I dont know, im sure someone else knows what to tell you.
Strength doesn't increase linearly based on bodyweight. Especially when it comes to strength athletes, the strength to bw ratio is much higher with the smaller people. This is do to the mechanical advantage of smaller frames ie., better leverage and smaller distances to move the weights.
 
M4OHN. My strength gains were freaky on that ****. No mental improvement, no pumps, no great size increase, but awesome strength gains and weight loss. It passes fina and the others on that list for me.
 
is it just me how gets immediatly freakingly strong after a single shot or dose of Winnny or what?

there´s _nothing_ like Winny on this list which could get even remotely close to Winny.
Maybe tren,but I´m just testing it and must do something with the base,which is lying around here-Just some sub-lingual experience with it.

It´s really a pity,that things like 4MOHN are gone now,just as it seemed the really good stuff was beginning to crystallize out of the rest.

I really would have liked to try this out but never had a good access to this stuff here.
 
Strange how different people respond differently to various compounds. For me nothing matches dbol, some people get freaky strong on straight test, and others respond to random things like m4ohn :D
 
DR.D said:
M4OHN. My strength gains were freaky on that ****. No mental improvement, no pumps, no great size increase, but awesome strength gains and weight loss. It passes fina and the others on that list for me.
Uhm... interesting, very interesting. I remember I gained some strenght, but was exactly along the lines of a normal training program.
I have to do another m4ohn cycle and see...
 
exnihilo said:
Strange how different people respond differently to various compounds. For me nothing matches dbol, some people get freaky strong on straight test, and others respond to random things like m4ohn :D

and the strangest part is that I totally didn't expect it! Never saw it coming, but I'm not complaining either :D

Syr,
Probably just a ramdom response like exnihilo mentioned. I see it happen all the time with people and it doesn't always add up. I was taking it solo just to try it out, but it was working so well after the first few wks that I threw in some trans. test and 1T cyp and made a little cycle of it.
 
DR.D said:
M4OHN. My strength gains were freaky on that ****. No mental improvement, no pumps, no great size increase, but awesome strength gains and weight loss. It passes fina and the others on that list for me.

Same here, never tried Fina though. Only the first cycle gave me strength gains though. Squat and Military improved significantly. I remember way-back-when Prolangtum said his gains were predominantly in the shoulders - I can echo that. Somehow M4OHN affected shoulders to a greater degree than any other body part.
 
oww i thought i wouldnt have to mention that i used test..becaue it is the base of any cycle, isnt it?
 
fred9 said:
oww i thought i wouldnt have to mention that i used test..becaue it is the base of any cycle, isnt it?
It should be, with a few exceptions. Test can contribute to the strenght gains btw. Reason I asked is that I'm planning to run a tren/test dermal cycle and var always has a high place on my mind. Strength is my main goal. Your feedback really influenced me towards this combo :)
So, may I ask u, which were your dosages and how long did u run it?
 
Var has an old-skool rep as being a great strength builder. Ask any old power lifter from the 70's and 80's!
 
Syr said:
It should be, with a few exceptions. Test can contribute to the strenght gains btw. Reason I asked is that I'm planning to run a tren/test dermal cycle and var always has a high place on my mind. Strength is my main goal. Your feedback really influenced me towards this combo :)
So, may I ask u, which were your dosages and how long did u run it?
Strength is also one of my goals with any cycle
eesj i always use 100mg testprop ED..done this without any other AS and got good results..when i add 75mg tren to the 100testp strength will be very good and vascularity will be good..
when i add 75mg anavar to 100testp+75tren, then strength is unreal and vascularity is unreal(especially arms)..
testp+tren were ED injections..
btw the best AScycle all time is for me tesp+trena+eq+anavar:D..

I also used winny in the past instead of anavar but the sides(hair, joints, etc) were much harsher with winny...
hope this will help any
greetz fred
 
DR.D said:
Var has an old-skool rep as being a great strength builder. Ask any old power lifter from the 70's and 80's!
Yep!
But just the idea to stack it to tren didnt come to my mind :)
 
fred9 said:
Strength is also one of my goals with any cycle
when i add 75mg anavar to 100testp+75tren, then strength is unreal and vascularity is unreal(especially arms)..
testp+tren were ED injections..
One more quesion: for how long did u run that cycle?
 
test+tren+anavar most of the time 8 weeks sometimes 10
Looks like the last few cycles I need more time to get strength gains then before...
so maybe the next one is gonna be 12...
greetz
 
i'm getting to start my test e, tren a, and drol cycle in a week. looking for some good mass gains and awesome strength gains. i'll let you know how it goes strength wise.
 
Fastflight said:
it´s a premade brand from South-America,called Finabolon,Laboratorio Fundacion,same brand I´ve gotten my Winny from,too,which is a bad MoFo.

But I´ve never seen anyone talking about this brand,so it might be fake with some good and some fake products,Estrombol seeming to be the good one.

I´m really scared now,wether I´ve injected Deca istead of Tren,cause I might get into the situation of a doping-test.

I guess there´s no inexspensive way to test it to see if it is what it is.

If a pictuer of it-sorry-for poor quality,but I think the look is very unique.
Some brazilian dude was tryin to sell me this, thanks for letting me know its fake :-P
 
Magickk said:
Superdrol has been great to me, granted it's the only cycle I've done so I don't have much to compare it to, but my bench is up 70 lbs. (to 320) in the past 4 weeks, with 3 of those weeks running SD.

damn man, did you do any bench programs or anything while on cycle?
 
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