Best over the counter AI?

thebigt said:
VIRTUS is the closest I've come to td-formestane….
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I forgot about transdermal formestane....I used OL’s version a few years ago..

I did not get very far...maybe like 2 days in a row with a conservative dose. It was so potent I could barely move at that point and I never really got back into it.
 
Ricky10 said:
My best experience ever with an AI was with Myokem Alphadex. I ran at least 3-4 bottles (not in a row) and always experienced impressive body recomp and it was a very potent product. Truth be told, I have ordered it since their “comeback”, and I couldn’t even tell I was taking anything. I didn’t even finish the bottle...

Letrone is also extremely potent. So much that I never get past 5 days or so of takin 1/2 to 1 pill/day. Vascularity comes out very quickly though, as well as strength. I just get too lethargic, and it also upsets my GI system a bit.

Inhibit-E seems solid, and has some nice effects. Much more subtle though in my prior experience..

I wish I had the chance to have tried Virtus, the reviews for that are certainly quite stellar!
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Shame about the myokem, it had rave reviews
 
thebigt said:
there were rumors floating that it was spiked...don't know if ever confirmed????
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i thought it was the other product that was spiked....I forget the name...I took both and got amazing results

who knows, my brain can't remember that far back
 
Formeron should be available again in the UK this summer ;)
As far as transdermal formestane goes this one kills it.
 
DEVANS89 said:
Shame about the myokem, it had rave reviews
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Yeah, I don’t know if the quality of the extracts took a significant nose dive or what. I used to use it at one capsule per day for a few weeks or longer just for my body to adjust to it. It would dry everything out significantly..including my upper airways. Never had any joint pain but muscle cramps were common.

I got the newly released one this past spring and started at 2 caps per day. Nothing! I bought it directly from them too.
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah, I don’t know if the quality of the extracts took a significant nose dive or what. I used to use it at one capsule per day for a few weeks or longer just for my body to adjust to it. It would dry everything out significantly..including my upper airways. Never had any joint pain but muscle cramps were common.

I got the newly released one this past spring and started at 2 caps per day. Nothing! I bought it directly from them too.
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Did you contact them to ask what was going on? I mean one cap a day to 2 caps nothing is a big change
 
DEVANS89 said:
Did you contact them to ask what was going on? I mean one cap a day to 2 caps nothing is a big change
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No...
I figured it wasn’t worth it and they would just reply back stating it was exactly the same as before and that nothing changed.
At least I found out I will never buy it again :)
 
How about Urolithin B guys? The study states it’s an AI and it is also a muscle builder, which effect is totally separate from it being an AI.
 
primolift00 said:
How about magnitropin, have you ordered that since their comeback?
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Yes, I have ordered that as well within the past year. It also does not seem as potent as the bottles I ran when they first came out. It could be because my body is more accustomed to taking natural anabolics now though. Particularly (-)- epicatechin...
 
I know a lot of people loved formestane, but if you’re going to go through all the expense and time for ordering a controlled substance, you might as well just order an good ai like adex, aromasin, or if you want the best bang for your dollar, letrozole.

If you’re trying to stay natty and 100% legal, go with SNS inhibit e.
 
brofessorx said:
I know a lot of people loved formestane, but if you’re going to go through all the expense and time for ordering a controlled substance, you might as well just order an good ai like adex, aromasin, or if you want the best bang for your dollar, letrozole.

If you’re trying to stay natty and 100% legal, go with SNS inhibit e.
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formestane is legal in the UK.
 
brofessorx said:
I know a lot of people loved formestane, but if you’re going to go through all the expense and time for ordering a controlled substance, you might as well just order an good ai like adex, aromasin, or if you want the best bang for your dollar, letrozole.

If you’re trying to stay natty and 100% legal, go with SNS inhibit e.
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I think formestane has a friendlier alpha feel than the other high profile AIs. It also doesn't crush estrogen as badly and it helps libido.

I'd choose FORM over the others unless I was positive that I had an obvious 5 alarm gyno situation. Also I probably wouldn't choose FORM for pct either due to relations with 3-test. Just my opinion and your context might be different that what I'm assuming as well. Good discussion.
 
celc5 said:
I think formestane has a friendlier alpha feel than the other high profile AIs.
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That’s probably because it directly converts into 4-hydroxy-testosterone a non aromatizable steroid.
 
Uk has most of those

Look on p r e d

I ran two bottles of form and it kept me nice and lean, didn’t really know what to expect from it as prior to purchasing it i hadn’t read and logs or anything
 
I hear those guys that had Bromo and changed their name, might be bringing back a little batch of Bromo TD in a few weeks.
 
celc5 said:
I think formestane has a friendlier alpha feel than the other high profile AIs. It also doesn't crush estrogen as badly and it helps libido.

I'd choose FORM over the others unless I was positive that I had an obvious 5 alarm gyno situation. Also I probably wouldn't choose FORM for pct either due to relations with 3-test. Just my opinion and your context might be different that what I'm assuming as well. Good discussion.
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I agree. I used formestane as my primary AI for a LONG time before it was outlawed. The key is its more than an AI. You also get the PH activity which is really solid. I know conversion rates are reported to be low but Ill tell you what....No other AI makes me feel stronger...instead strength tends to drop.
And no other AI feels like formestane. I know for a fact that enough is converting for the hydroxytest to be having an effect.
 
Alchemy by Hydrapharm has ATD in it. (same ingredient in virtus) There is a domestic source that sells it too. Definitely most potent OTC E blocker
 
The Express 42 said:
Alchemy by Hydrapharm has ATD in it. (same ingredient in virtus) There is a domestic source that sells it too. Definitely most potent OTC E blocker
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that's not ATD.

7-hydroxy-4-imidazolylflavan is the active in Virtus
 
Rockslide said:
I don’t understand why the Virtus raws got seized.... flavans... not like it was a bunch of letro, or DHT, or winny
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I don't understand much when it comes to the government.....they allowed opioids to be dispensed like candy while banning ph's????
 
Rockslide said:
I don’t understand why the Virtus raws got seized.... flavans... not like it was a bunch of letro, or DHT, or winny
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An industry leader I know just told me they heard of companies loosing credit companies for carrying BCAA as it was deemed pharma. This is the state of the country.

Let’s hear it for people winning a award for showing up. It happens when we give in to the moral minority. They decide what we can have.
Rant over
 
I feel bad for the Iron Legion guys.... it is well accepted that they make quality products , they only have like 4 products right now and I’m sure they dropped a lot of their capital for the raws only to have them seized for months.
 
Rockslide said:
I feel bad for the Iron Legion guys.... it is well accepted that they make quality products , they only have like 4 products right now and I’m sure they dropped a lot of their capital for the raws only to have them seized for months.
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I do feel for them. I know it’s been over a year that they’ve had the virtue raws seized
 
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
 
delsolrob said:
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
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Awesomeness!!!
 
delsolrob said:
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
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this is good news
 
Should just switch to the UK/EU market

We aren’t allowed agmatine or alpha Y

But damn it we can walk into a shop off the street and buy sarms ,prohormones
And formestane and by on our merry way for afternoon tea with the queen
 
7 days on Letrone, cranky knee, shoulder pain at 1 cap every other night, water loss, great pump in the gym! Can t beat that a bottle will last me 4 months!!
 
delsolrob said:
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
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:clap2:
 
alvin1 said:
7 days on Letrone, cranky knee, shoulder pain at 1 cap every other night, water loss, great pump in the gym! Can t beat that a bottle will last me 4 months!!
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Letrone successfully dropped my e2 numbers and I was only using 1 cap eod.
 
delsolrob said:
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
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Very excited to see another great product back.
 
delsolrob said:
Just a heads up, the Virtus material detained last August is finally being released from customs...we are expecting to receive it next week. We'll need to verify the material upon receipt, but this makes it look extremely likely that we'll be able to release a batch of virtus in the coming weeks!!!

This is huge!
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delsolrob since virtus was MIA for so long...maybe a logging promo?
 
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