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Best OTC Sleep Aids.

paul56778

paul56778

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Hi all

Do you have any recommendations on OTC supplement sleeps aids to help with insomnia caused by Trenbolone.

So far i have been using Nytol 50mg one a night, and have just got DNA Anabolics MAX ZZZ.

Have any of you tried Hypnos by Chaos & Paint?.

Nytol has been working but I find I am groggy 1st thing in the morning after using it and find it effects my breathing when drifting of to sleep.
 
^all really good choices. not listed and my favorite is G8... after a few months using it I relearned my sleep patterns and sleep much better now, no grogginess. I only take it I feel like I need a little extra shut eye these days
 
I'd check out phenibut xt by sns and rcss has a good sleep aid. I'm forgetting the name of it for some reason.
 
OTC products may not be strong enough, but i've had success with: AppNut Fat Free PM, SNS Growth Factor, and plain old melatonin.
 
Sleephoria + passion flower + 500mg agmatine is my go to sleep stack.

I also hear G8 is a strong sleep aid, but I have yet to try it.
 
Rhadam said:
OTC products may not be strong enough, but i've had success with: AppNut Fat Free PM, SNS Growth Factor, and plain old melatonin.
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Good options here.

I too like SNS Growth Factor and melatonin.

ZMA might be another nice addition to your sleep aids OP.

Phenibut might prove a lot stronger for you if needed, but iirc there is the potential for a "hang over" type effect with that so you might want to be careful in assessing your tolerance.
 
paul56778 said:
Hi all

Do you have any recommendations on OTC supplement sleeps aids to help with insomnia caused by Trenbolone.

So far i have been using Nytol 50mg one a night, and have just got DNA Anabolics MAX ZZZ.

Have any of you tried Hypnos by Chaos & Paint?.

Nytol has been working but I find I am groggy 1st thing in the morning after using it and find it effects my breathing when drifting of to sleep.
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One other I forgot:

Lavender: 80-160mg or as aromatherapy
- Acts thru GABA~A~ receptors and is even better stacked with lemon balm
 
I'm a little more reliant on bulk diphenhydramine (Benedryl) than I'd like to admit. Nothing else seems to have the same knock-out effect for sleep onset.

Phenibut is amazing for sleep "depth" and quality, but only a time or two per week for me.

Chelated magnesium works well for a calming/relaxing effect, but won't really put you to sleep -- complements properly-taken melatonin well, though.

I've had very limited success with valerian, hops, passionflower, and most other herbals.
 
- Melatonin 5-10mgs prior to bedtime. Works like a charm for me.
- Have used Benedryl (3 caps) to help get me to sleep.
- Valerian Root 500mgs
- 5-HTP 100mgs
- L-Dopa 150mgs
- Phenibut (but can only be taken for a few days at a time due to tolerance and withdrawal symptons)

I usually combine these all except Benedryl and I cycle Phenibut in and out for a few days at a time.
 
g8 is #1 for sleep-really puts me out....growth factor xt is #2 for sleep, slightly below g8- but has more benefits, imo!!!
 
I've used and liked these in no particular order

1) ZMA/Melatonin
2) Z12
3) Sleephoria
4) Abyss Unparalleled
5) G8

Nighty night!
 
They don't work bottom line just being honest! Yes indeed this is a killer for me
 
test112 said:
Be careful of lavender; it's quite possibly estrogenic and/or antiandrogenic.
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So is hops but OP already tried that so I figured I'd put it out there : )
 
TheMovement said:
They don't work bottom line just being honest! Yes indeed this is a killer for me
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What doesn't work for you? All of the above mentioned? If none of them, then what does? Ambien, Trazadone, Xanax, Klonpin, Lunesta?

I have tried almost everything and some of the above mentioned OTC supplements "still" help me. Maybe they will help the OP.
 
Nyrin said:
I'm a little more reliant on bulk diphenhydramine (Benedryl) than I'd like to admit. Nothing else seems to have the same knock-out effect for sleep onset.

Phenibut is amazing for sleep "depth" and quality, but only a time or two per week for me.

Chelated magnesium works well for a calming/relaxing effect, but won't really put you to sleep -- complements properly-taken melatonin well, though.

I've had very limited success with valerian, hops, passionflower, and most other herbals.
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I was to to but then I looked into the potential long term side effects they can be bad
 
mw1 said:
Growth factor xt. I'd be glad to send you a sample to try
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I'd take advantage of this, I've always wanted to try some I just haven't gotten around to buying any yet. I hear a lot of good things about it.


Phenibut does a good job of keeping me asleep it seems. But I can take up to 2g with no noticeable effects until I actually fall asleep. I'm scared to go any higher on the dosage for the fear of a horrible hangover.
 
rascal14 said:
I'd take advantage of this, I've always wanted to try some I just haven't gotten around to buying any yet. I hear a lot of good things about it.


Phenibut does a good job of keeping me asleep it seems. But I can take up to 2g with no noticeable effects until I actually fall asleep. I'm scared to go any higher on the dosage for the fear of a horrible hangover.
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Send me your shipping info
 
Growth Factor XT is a favorite and one of the only supplements my wife will take. I like it a lot as well, in addition to GHAR1NE.
 
Growth factor xt, Phenibut, and melatonan all work for me.
 
Bsl Anesthetized
Chaos and Pain Hypnos
L-Dopa + Phenibut + Melatonin + L-Tryptophan + Valerian Root +/- GABA
 
TShoot said:
What doesn't work for you? All of the above mentioned? If none of them, then what does? Ambien, Trazadone, Xanax, Klonpin, Lunesta?

I have tried almost everything and some of the above mentioned OTC supplements "still" help me. Maybe they will help the OP.
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Tried almost all OTC and Ambien and Xanax really blew my mood. Im just being a dummy but sometimes its just about sitting and figuring out what the hell your minds keeping away from ya. I suffered with my bouts for almost 3months and a lot of money lost. Overall you dont know until you try
 
Best I've found are
G8
Growth factor xt
Rezzurrect pm rcas
Animal pm

Currently loving g8. I go back and forth between gfxt and g8 for the most part
 
I like:
-Melatonin 1mg
-Antaeus Oneiromancer
-Antaeus Galamantine
-Magnesium (chelated): 400mg
-For occasional use: G8 or phenibut, possibly stacked with benadryl
 
All the suggestions are great, I have currently been using Max Zzz by DNA anabolics, one cap a night seems to do the trick at helping with the trensomnia. I was thinking of getting a tub of Chaos & Pain Hypnos due to it being available at powermyself here in the UK.

I cannot find a UK retailer selling G8 but would really like to try it out.
 
does any of the sleep aid mentioned above actually help with building muscles if diet & excersice is not perfect, but good? Thanks
 
datsthat said:
does any of the sleep aid mentioned above actually help with building muscles if diet & excersice is not perfect, but good? Thanks
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If you aren't getting any sleep before you start supplementing with it, then yes it could help build muscle. Your body repairs itself while you sleep.
 
rascal14 said:
If you aren't getting any sleep before you start supplementing with it, then yes it could help build muscle. Your body repairs itself while you sleep.
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Thanks you

Gosh, I am such a newbie.....Duh.....better sleep = better chance of building muscles = common sense.


Question about GrowthFactor XT.... Label says "As a dietary supplement, either take 5 capsules before bedtime or take 3 capsules before bedtime, and another 2 capsules spaced out 10 to 12 hours apart from the bedtime serving". 10-12 after bedtime is about when I am I head to the gym. Will taking 2 capsules cause any sedation? Or you only get it with 3 or more? Thanks
 
During the school year (I teach) a sleep aid is a staple supplement. I like to make sure I sleep well, am able to be on point teaching and just energized for the day!
 
Anybody tried Brawn Elite Series Sleep & GHrow?

I find this product interesting because it contains Laxogenin. Eventually I would like to try Laxogenin and this might be the great chance for me to try and get some sleep.

Ingredients (per serving)
Alpha-gpc: 600mg
L-dopa from mucuna: 500mg
Green tea extract (50% egcg): 500mg
Sensoril ashwagandha: 450mg
Laxogenin: 100mg

Thanks,
 
Not sure about Sleephphoria but I highly suggest no food perhaps an hour or 2,before using sleep aids
 
touchless21 said:
Should food be avoided when taking Sleephoria?
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I've used Sleephoria a ton, and if I recall the bottle says to take on an empty stomach. I would eat dinner, wait until about 45 minutes before bed, pop Sleephoria and then then right before bed have a quick snack then it was lights out.

That's how I roll with all the sleep aids I've taken.
 
slimsaw00 said:
I've used Sleephoria a ton, and if I recall the bottle says to take on an empty stomach. I would eat dinner, wait until about 45 minutes before bed, pop Sleephoria and then then right before bed have a quick snack then it was lights out.

That's how I roll with all the sleep aids I've taken.
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Ok. On the bottle I have it doesn't. But I'd assume it would work better on an empty stomach.
 
Take it from me, I am the worst sleeper on this site. I finally found an amazing sleep aid., it's called Kirkland signature sleep aid.. It's Costco brand sleep aid .. Half a pill will destroy you for 8 to 10 hrs snoring away.. And it's 6 dollars 200 pills
 
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