Best Non Hormonal Stack

BEST NON HORMONAL STACK

  • NHA STACK

    Votes: 67 27.5%

  • HYPERDROL+MASS FX

    Votes: 115 47.1%

  • JW+RESTORE+BAM

    Votes: 62 25.4%
  • Total voters
    244
worm said:
I have been taking e-form with 3 grams of 6oxo mixed in a 4oz bottle. 3 sprays morning and 3 sprays at night. Along with activate. I am 2 weeks into the cycle strength has been increasing every week and bodyfat is definently down started at about 12% haven't rechecked it again yet, but by looking in the mirror definently under 10%. Body weight has droped 3 pounds so I am going to start increasing calories.
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you have stumbled upon one of the best stacks out there, throw in some leviathan and you have an incredible recomp stack. i bet libido is high!
 
worm said:
I have been taking e-form with 3 grams of 6oxo mixed in a 4oz bottle. 3 sprays morning and 3 sprays at night. Along with activate. I am 2 weeks into the cycle strength has been increasing every week and bodyfat is definently down started at about 12% haven't rechecked it again yet, but by looking in the mirror definently under 10%. Body weight has droped 3 pounds so I am going to start increasing calories.
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What is E-form? Is that an abbreviation? Also, what product are you using in spray form? I have used 6-oxo in my post cycle therapy and LOVED it. This seems to be a great stack. As the dude mentioned above, adding Leviathan would be great.

What does your dosing look like for your supps? Thanks for the help!
 
no love for the XF/Ebol combo eh?? :aargh: i stacked that with some Activate on the last 30 days and had GREAT success.
 
There needs to be an X-Factor option. I haven't yet used it but have heard only great things about it and intend to soon.

What is the active in Ebol?
 
JW/BAM/Restore did me good, I overlapped 1 week with each. Had the best gains with BAM, good strength gains. I ran JW/BAM a seperate time also and had good results.
 
My planned stack will be NHA like:
Dermacrine Sustain (to replace rebound XT)
Activate Extreme (to replace activate)
 
USPLabs said:
Include Anabolic Pump into any stack since it works through a mechanism unique to the industry and watch results skyrocked.

I like to see this stack

Posideon-AP-Nettle root-PowerFULL-Forskolin



for get about it!
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Im iffy about touching my hormones but im actually about to start cutting with..

posideon, YG or P-SLIN, NETTLE ROOT(bulk), ECDY(94%)BULK, I have BULK POWERFULL and one of the fat burners has forskolin in it..

Im interested to see if i lose weight and gain muscle..

:D
 
Have you started this cycle yet?

If so, how is it going?


AdelV said:
Im iffy about touching my hormones but im actually about to start cutting with..

posideon, YG or P-SLIN, NETTLE ROOT(bulk), ECDY(94%)BULK, I have BULK POWERFULL and one of the fat burners has forskolin in it..

Im interested to see if i lose weight and gain muscle..

:D
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fatburner2007 said:
Have you started this cycle yet?

If so, how is it going?
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nope

starting today/tomorrow..

i think ill leave the nettle root out tho.. i just dont wanna overload..

ecdy, pslin, lev, dcp bulk.. plus antis and vitamins... i think thats a mean 4 week stack to shred 2-3kgs... then ill keep cutting..

:D ill keep u posted
 
Poseidon isn't much more than a multivitamin since they took out the one ingredient which made it special (Shilajit) in their "improved" formula.
 
jjohn said:
nettle root is the active in ActivAte. Just a higher concentration. Poseidon is not just BCAA's, just take a look at Nimbus nutrition's section ;)

Forskolin is a vasodilator and it will increase the adenylate cyclase and the cyclic adenosine monophosphate, which will help to create a recomp effect.
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Forskolin also raises T levels to quite a signifigant degree(not up to the level of the NHS stack) so for this reason I like it as a post cycle therapy product.I use post cycle therapy loosely here as we're not discussing a steroidial cycle but the premise is the same.

However,if you are attempting a recomp,I'd avoid the NHA stack as a large increase in appetite has been reported several times,leading me to believe it's common.

If bulking,eat a very large amount of whole eggs (IIRC 12 per day is a good number) and this will induce a very impressive kick of AA,on par with normal dosing of X-factor.See the thread below for a detailed explanation:
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Regardless of goal(be it cut,bulk or recomp) I think that SyntheSIZE (plus 2 G glucosamine w/each dosage if cutting/recomping)),bulk Sesathin/Sesamin and trandermal formestane is pretty damn top shelf.

The larger intake of eggs would depend largely on a caloric surplus or deficit but if you wanted to cut with AA via eggs,it'd be possible but other food intake would be more limited than most would like,I'd imagine.
 
I am on the NHA stack now and experiencing this issue; any idea what causes it?

Colin said:
However,if you are attempting a recomp,I'd avoid the NHA stack as a large increase in appetite has been reported several times,leading me to believe it's common.
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Colin said:
Forskolin also raises T levels to quite a signifigant degree(not up to the level of the NHS stack) so for this reason I like it as a post cycle therapy product.I use post cycle therapy loosely here as we're not discussing a steroidial cycle but the premise is the same.

However,if you are attempting a recomp,I'd avoid the NHA stack as a large increase in appetite has been reported several times,leading me to believe it's common.

If bulking,eat a very large amount of whole eggs (IIRC 12 per day is a good number) and this will induce a very impressive kick of AA,on par with normal dosing of X-factor.See the thread below for a detailed explanation:
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Regardless of goal(be it cut,bulk or recomp) I think that SyntheSIZE (plus 2 G glucosamine w/each dosage if cutting/recomping)),bulk Sesathin/Sesamin and trandermal formestane is pretty damn top shelf.

The larger intake of eggs would depend largely on a caloric surplus or deficit but if you wanted to cut with AA via eggs,it'd be possible but other food intake would be more limited than most would like,I'd imagine.
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SyntheSize + Eggs sounds pretty pimp, aminogen will help me with those egg farts?

Keep the eggs yolks uncooked. I remove my yolks and put them in my pre workout shake, and then cook the whites in some virgin coconut oil.
 
actually Jungle wf and Hyperdrol Mass Fx is consider hormonal and are banned by by most natural bodybuilding federations. I dont know what the NHa stack is
 
msucurt said:
I loved that stuff too....im kicking myself for not buying a ton of that stuff when is was $10.
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serious?

lol blue didnt do nothing for me..

most test boosters dont work for me, currently on DTH..

prob cos i got high test already :( ohwell cant complain, i was just hoping for more sex drive!

lol
 
AdelV said:
serious?

lol blue didnt do nothing for me..

most test boosters dont work for me, currently on DTH..

prob cos i got high test already :( ohwell cant complain, i was just hoping for more sex drive!

lol
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DTH ? Im not sure what that is....maybe im just dumb today. Elaborate please.

thanks
 
worm said:
I have been taking e-form with 3 grams of 6oxo mixed in a 4oz bottle. 3 sprays morning and 3 sprays at night. Along with activate. I am 2 weeks into the cycle strength has been increasing every week and bodyfat is definently down started at about 12% haven't rechecked it again yet, but by looking in the mirror definently under 10%. Body weight has droped 3 pounds so I am going to start increasing calories.
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this sounds very interesting.

Could you explain your stack....
dosage protocol....
spray on the abdominal region i suppose?.....
how many times a day? ......
what u are looking to gain from this stack...
etc....................

thanks
 
stack tweaking

8weeks of Mass FX extreme - Hyperdrol X2 - ALRI Pro Anabol starting April

Will be supplementing L-Carnitine and Vanadyl throughout plus
SAN Fierce and ALRI WTF pump'd ( switching up each week )

All bases covered? or would Retain 2 or LeanExtreme dramatically help keep things lean?
 
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IvyLeaguePump said:
I wanted to try this product, but I think it would give me niacin flushes :sad:
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the flushes aren't too bad and i kinda like em. They do become less intense the longer you use it and if with a meal i feel they don't hit me as hard as empty stomach.
 
IvyLeaguePump said:
I wanted to try this product, but I think it would give me niacin flushes :sad:
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About 95% of individuals do indeed get the niacin flush when they use Poseidon, especially in the beginning. It is actually a really healthy benefit, if you can get used to it. I try to make sure I get one every couple of days even though I take several scoops of Poseidon everyday.
 
Colden said:
About 95% of individuals do indeed get the niacin flush when they use Poseidon, especially in the beginning. It is actually a really healthy benefit, if you can get used to it. I try to make sure I get one every couple of days even though I take several scoops of Poseidon everyday.
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What are the really healthy benefits to a niacin flush?

I feel like I have a really bad sun burn for about 45 min :blink:
 
Colden said:
Here is a thread that should provide you with a little information. There is also several sites on the web and pub med that discuss the health benefits of Niacin and the flush that occurs.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nimbus-nutrition/60204-niacin-flush-detoxification.html
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What is Niacin's relationship with histamine? I thought I read or heard that if you had high histamine levels to stay away from Niacin, or maybe it was the other way around, I can't remember.
 
Vegking said:
What is Niacin's relationship with histamine? I thought I read or heard that if you had high histamine levels to stay away from Niacin, or maybe it was the other way around, I can't remember.
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Here is a really simple explanation of a complicated function...

Niacin dilates the capillaries near the skin. When the blood flow increases, fat cells around the area begin to release toxins that are being stored. The toxins are responsible for the release of histamines, kinda like sayin, "there are toxins here, send more blood".

There is a lot more to this, here is another link that has a good yet simple explanation..

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i just ordered mass fx, hyperdrol and retain two and plan on running it for eight weeks at the recommended dosages. I dont really know anything about anabolic pump or activate, could i add these also to my stack? and what is the deal with omegas and x factor? i want to run x factor and i take flax oil, do i have to stop all together?
 
Hello Guys

Ive just done some research on diffrent items and have ordered myself the following
1. 1 x Beta Alanine (500 grams)
By: PrimaForce

1 x Taurine Powder (500 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) (100 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x L-Tyrosine (100 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

2 x Citrulline Malate (200 grams)
By: PrimaForce

1 x AAKG Powder (100 gm)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Arginine Ethyl Ester (100 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

3 x CEE (100 gm)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Beta-Hydroxy-Beta-methylbutyrate (HMB) (500 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Acetyl L-Carnitine (500 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Sesamin Oil (500mg)
By: PrimaForce

1 x Propionyl-L-Carnitine (100 grams)
By: NutraPlanet

3 x CLA Supreme Caps (100 softgels)
By: NutraPlanet

Will anzone of zou be able to let me know how to use it, what can be mixed with what, doses, and for how long anzone of these can be used.

All replies highlz appreciated.

hkloss1
 
hkloss1 said:
Hello Guys

Ive just done some research on diffrent items and have ordered myself the following
1. 1 x Beta Alanine (500 grams) - good
By: PrimaForce

1 x Taurine Powder (500 grams) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

1 x N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) (100 grams) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

1 x L-Tyrosine (100 grams) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

2 x Citrulline Malate (200 grams) - good
By: PrimaForce

1 x AAKG Powder (100 gm) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Arginine Ethyl Ester (100 grams) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

3 x CEE (100 gm) - good
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Beta-Hydroxy-Beta-methylbutyrate (HMB) (500 grams)- too expensive
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Acetyl L-Carnitine (500 grams) - ok
By: NutraPlanet

1 x Sesamin Oil (500mg) - great
By: PrimaForce

1 x Propionyl-L-Carnitine (100 grams) - good
By: NutraPlanet

3 x CLA Supreme Caps (100 softgels) - good
By: NutraPlanet

Will anzone of zou be able to let me know how to use it, what can be mixed with what, doses, and for how long anzone of these can be used.

All replies highlz appreciated.

hkloss1
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I think you could have done without some of these. I mean, most are good to great, but you dropped some good coin. IF it were me, i would have gone with this:

1) beta alanine
2) CEE
3) CM , AAKG, Taurine (perhaps a concotion for Preworkout)
4) BCAA's
5) Fish oil
5) sesamin (if you must)
 
msucurt said:
I think you could have done without some of these. I mean, most are good to great, but you dropped some good coin. IF it were me, i would have gone with this:

1) beta alanine
2) CEE
3) CM , AAKG, Taurine (perhaps a concotion for Preworkout)
4) BCAA's
5) Fish oil
5) sesamin (if you must)
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I've allready got BCAA and fish oil bought from some other place, but thanks for sugestion.
Any idea how to use those and especially would be interested on how to use them on off days as I can not find find any info regarding this. I've found out so far that AAKG for egz. shouldn't be used for longer than 60 days.
When it comes to creatine stack I personally think that Dymatize Xpand is a top stuff, especially this newest version as it doesn't contain caffeine which makes it hard to fall asleep, No Xplode from BSN could be good but as I don't drink coffee and don't want to use cofeine is not for me.
Any sugestions regarding dosing of those things I've ordered on aff days especially would be highly appreciated
thanks
 
i liked my

PCS
AX
LX
ZMA

really well......

all the votes going to MFX and HX2..............makes me wonder how good that stack really is.
 
Some of these supps seem to be promising but very expensive.I guess they would be good for those who don't use PH or AAS or for those who want to run a non hormonal supplement while off of PH or AAS.Just very expensive in my book.Hell I can almost get an AAS cyle cheaper than some of these stacks.
 
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