best joint support?

antknee said:
thanks! yes, its a good thing for sure- i saw your wobenzyme n info and im gonna hit that once i have a bit of extra cash- seems you have to dose it kinda high, and the celedrin was only $12.00.
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if you buy the wobenzymen at vitamin shoppe tell them to give you the online price. believe me you will save big $.

as far as price goes, for what it has done for me, it's a real steal. together with the skeletal balm i feel much better these days.
 
..thats what counts...once this run of products is over, im giving yours a ride, thanks!
 
thebigt said:
besides the digestive enzymes are freaking good for you on top of everything else, lol.
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I looked it up and looks interesting. Wobenzyme reminds me of Labrada's Sorenzyme. Sorenzyme has almost all of the same ingredients (howbeit lower doses) and some extras as well. I got a bottle that I'm trying out now.
 
kingjameskjf said:
I looked it up and looks interesting. Wobenzyme reminds me of Labrada's Sorenzyme. Sorenzyme has almost all of the same ingredients (howbeit lower doses) and some extras as well. I got a bottle that I'm trying out now.
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other than the pain relief i get from wobemzyme n- it also has health benefits as well, unlike my prescription tramadol-which has it's share of sides.
 
thebigt said:
besides the digestive enzymes are freaking good for you on top of everything else, lol.
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This is a large and recent source of confusion for me... because although I have been a very ardent user of digestive enzymes for years, advocated their usage to many clients, and also credited gains in long term nutrient assimilation and muscle growth to Digestive Enzyme's ability to increase macro-nutrient capacity - I am unsure right now. I have never seen any type of human study demonstrating the advantages of Enzyme intake regarding food digestion.

Naturally produced and dispersed enzymes are not a limited resource... my understanding is that ingested food signals the ongoing release of enzymes until fully processed - so why add additional enzymes to a non-limited pool of enzymatic production?
 
Outstanding said:
This is a large and recent source of confusion for me... because although I have been a very ardent user of digestive enzymes for years, advocated their usage to many clients, and also credited gains in long term nutrient assimilation and muscle growth to Digestive Enzyme's ability to increase macro-nutrient capacity - I am unsure right now. I have never seen any type of human study demonstrating the advantages of Enzyme intake regarding food digestion.

Naturally produced and dispersed enzymes are not a limited resource... my understanding is that ingested food signals the ongoing release of enzymes until fully processed - so why add additional enzymes to a non-limited pool of enzymatic production?
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i would like someone with more of a scientific background to answer this also-but i will tell you that i feel better-not only painwise when taking wobenzyme n.
 
Animal Flex and Ghenerate cleared up 90% of all the pain I had. I stil have something resembeling tendonitis in my left arm but thats not a joint so.... MY joints feel better than ever ^ cleaned up elbow popping, pained knees, and rough shoulder joints and "rotator cuff" pain
 
antknee said:
right now ive just started...

joint force
oral celadrin ( its all they had in stock )
bio-freeze - i apply this after the joint force dries

so far so good- im about 4 days in with the joint force and biofreeze- just added celedrin last night..im pretty pain free right now, my pain was never really really bad, just constant ache in both elbows...i did some things the past couple of sessions that usually hurt a bit and had no issues.
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Is it tendon pain or just dry joint pain?
 
for me its both tendon and maybe a bit of dry joint...ive got elbow tendons that are a bit weird..the tendon snaps back and forth from the bottom of the elbow to the inside of the joint ( if that makes sense ) when i flex or straighten the arm..so ANY joint pain i get from the tendons seems to get worse with use..at one point a few yrs ago i had to stop benching and curls it was so bad..right now its pretty minor, im just trying to be proactive with it.
 
I've been using Forged Joint Repair and SkellyBalm for the better part of a year and have had no pain. 2 weeks ago I dropped the Forged and switched my multi to Orange Triad and within days my left elbow was killing me. I've got about a week of this experiment left before I throw the Forged back in. I no like joint pain!
 
Just read a snippet of a study before bed last night citing a study that did indeed demonstrate Gluc/Chon regenerated cartilage cells, but then argued it only reduced pain via a very strong placebo effect noted in studies. Thanks for confusing me haha!
 
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Just read a snippet of a study before bed last night citing a study that did indeed demonstrate Gluc/Chon regenerated cartilage cells, but then argued it only reduced pain via a very strong placebo effect noted in studies. Thanks for confusing me haha!
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LOL. Sure, that makes total sense! :suspect:

Hey I don't care why it works if it does.
 
Update on my animal flex, I still feel really good. I still have some aches but they are lessened alot. I think I am going to find me some skelebalm though, so I will drop a comment in when I get ahold of that. good info here!
 
Never even heard of WOBENZYME N but I am always willing to try something new.

Cissus - 5-10 grams/day
Osteo Bi-Flex - 4 pills a day
Skeletal Balm - Applied 3x daily to elbows, wrist, shoulders, knee's
Being only 23 I have way too much joint pain...I suppose 10 years of wrestling, and 2 of rugby along with pseudo heavy lifting wasn't nice to them. Anyways since I've been using the above combination I have almost ZERO joint pain, it's awesome I feel like I have never had an injury. Skeletal Balm/Cissus Pre/Post workout is amazing for joints in conjunction with a good warm up and ice when needed.
 
BigKrabbe said:
Never even heard of WOBENZYME N but I am always willing to try something new.

Cissus - 5-10 grams/day
Osteo Bi-Flex - 4 pills a day
Skeletal Balm - Applied 3x daily to elbows, wrist, shoulders, knee's
Being only 23 I have way too much joint pain...I suppose 10 years of wrestling, and 2 of rugby along with pseudo heavy lifting wasn't nice to them. Anyways since I've been using the above combination I have almost ZERO joint pain, it's awesome I feel like I have never had an injury. Skeletal Balm/Cissus Pre/Post workout is amazing for joints in conjunction with a good warm up and ice when needed.
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glad you are liking the skeletal balm, it is one of my favorites. google wobenzyme n, there is tons of info-it's been around since the 50's i think.
 
Joint discomfort can also be linked to inflammation, but that's a given. They've been giving hyaluronic acid to horses forever. I know Animal Flex works well for me, but I'll give the others a go here in the near future. Good info in here.
 
some great reviews of forged joint repair in here!

Works awesome for me as well. By the time you stack it with krill ts ya'll are gonna feel 10 years younger! Ok.....prolly 7, but still :)
 
if any of you are interested in OsteoSport, PM me. there are "believer bottles" out there for like 5 bucks area that last a week or so.
 
R1balla said:
if any of you are interested in OsteoSport, PM me. there are "believer bottles" out there for like 5 bucks area that last a week or so.
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I am on day 2 of the sample jar right now
 
As an ex-powerlifter my joints are still paying the price. Cissus has been like creatine for me....the first time I took it there was a dramatic effect. I continued to use it and the effects appeared to wear off. Several times I've gone off of it and started up again and each time it "seems" to help, but nothing like that first time. I still believe in it and do include it as a supp I try to take every day.

Some other joint supps I am experiementing with are green lipped mussel and egg shell membrane.
 
I have been capping my own MSM, Glucosamine, and Chrond for a while now, months. I can't complain at all!

What I am curious about though... are there any of the new supplements (individual ingredients) out right now that have HUMAN data that show promise with lubricity, healing, and blood flow to connective tissue and joints?
 
Animal flex has worked great on my DAA/Massfx/Triazole cycle

if u look around u can find it pretty cheap.

Boron also helps alot
 
Achilles by Antaeus Labs

...and that is all
 
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