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I’m looking to run my first andro, what would be best for a recomp/lean bulk whilst also getting some libido boost?
fixedIcon One is the best lean builder - you can stack with something like ULTRAhard or alpha seven to increase the leaning and hardening effects while also causing some nice libido boosting effects
I think icon one is a safe bet, but I’m having great results with ultra hard for similar purposes. Only 5 days in and seeing changes. I imagine icon one being a little stronger, but Imo it’s hard to go wrongThanks for the replies.
I’ll be looking to run solo until money permits so would you say icon one in that case?
Ultra hard!How is libido on ultra hard?
good to hear that a healthy 24 year old is seeing increase in libido from ultrahard...i know i did but i am well over twice your age.Ultra hard!
On a serious note, it’s an increase for sure. I’m 24 so I’m not deficient in that area, but it’s noticeable. There’s also a mental/feel good effect from it where I don’t let things get to me as much, I have less on my mind, and am more in the mood on average
the word is out!!!Ultra Hard demand has been insane this last week...people are loving it! Looks like it may sell out before our next lot of material arrives
CEL Stano-Plex would be my recommendation. Its as mild as they come (epi-andro) in terms of sides, but the benefits (at least for me and most of the others) were stellar. Improved size, pumps, strength, power, agression, mood, libido and body comp... literally everything you can ask for.I’m looking to run my first andro, what would be best for a recomp/lean bulk whilst also getting some libido boost?
How much would alpha seven impact the HPTA? Is the dose of androsterone enough to require a PCT?I've only used Alpha Seven so far with Ultra-Epi, but the recomp effects have been awesome. The scale weight hasn't changed at all (202 lbs) but the changes in the mirror have been substantial. I'm looking forward to trying Alpha Four and Icon One in the furture.
I'd generally recommend sustain alpha as a mild PCT for a basic Alpha Seven run.Is alpha seven too suppressive ? @del
How much would alpha seven impact the HPTA? Is the dose of androsterone enough to require a PCT?
plus invictus wouldn't hurt-eh?I'd generally recommend sustain alpha as a mild PCT for a basic Alpha Seven run.
This is my usual pct.I'd generally recommend sustain alpha as a mild PCT for a basic Alpha Seven run.
This is my usual pct.I'd generally recommend sustain alpha as a mild PCT for a basic Alpha Seven run.
Thanks for getting back, thats good to hear. Its not that I have anything against serms, its just with the routes you have to take to get them, ur never quite sure what ur getting. What would you recommend? 2 bottles of ultra hard and 2 bottles of sustain?Ultra Hard should be mildly suppressive, so Sustain should be fine for a solo Ultra Hard run
The Testosterone Recovery Stack is our full PCT stack - this is what I recommend for longer runs of the Ph's (like 8 weeks) and for the Icon One and Alpha Four, as these are more suppressive compounds.
Never heard of body hair growth being an issue. Hair loss is possible.Hi Guys,
Could you please reply to my lame question? What are the androgenic side effects from 1-andro? Im most concern about body hair growth.
they’re in the same bottles as the rest of the gels - each bottle contains 3,000mg 7-keto@delsolrob what size are the 7 Keto Gel?
I received an email and blow 3 bottles right away
This combo will put the thyroids in overdrivethey’re in the same bottles as the rest of the gels - each bottle contains 3,000mg 7-keto
this would be a pretty great stack with ThermoAmp
This is really diet dependent, but I could see this is either a really feel good recomp or leaning stack - it just depends on the diet.@delsolrob What do you think a person could expect from an 8 week run of Alpha 4 stacked with Alpha 7?
Exactly what Im looking for for a late spring run! Androsterone sounds like a really fun compound from everything Ive read!This is really diet dependent, but I could see this is either a really feel good recomp or leaning stack - it just depends on the diet.
increased mood/feel good/libido/muscle hardening/vascularity were the 1st things i noticed, then came the leaning and after that strength and recovery....i was already pretty lean but the muscle hardening and vascularity really accentuated muscle tone...@delsolrob What do you think a person could expect from an 8 week run of Alpha 4 stacked with Alpha 7?
So how would you compare the two stacks. I will eventually look to add ultra hard or Alpha seven... as you have ran both with an identical product (Alpha four), how would you compare them?increased mood/feel good/libido/muscle hardening/vascularity were the 1st things i noticed, then came the leaning and after that strength and recovery....i was already pretty lean but the muscle hardening and vascularity really accentuated muscle tone...
i only ran alpha four with alpha seven for 1 month...now i am using alpha four and ultra hard.....since i am a rep i like to experiment with different combos so i am able to give 1st hand personal experience on the products.
better leaning for sure with alpha seven, which caused slightly more vascularity than ultra hard...more energy and harder erections and slightly less vascularity with ultra hard....both increased libido gave more reps---i can't credit either with strength or recovery since they have stayed the same on both and i think alpha four was influential.So how would you compare the two stacks. I will eventually look to add ultra hard or Alpha seven... as you have ran both with an identical product (Alpha four), how would you compare them?
Thanks
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better leaning for sure with alpha seven, which caused slightly more vascularity than ultra hard...more energy and harder erections and slightly less vascularity with ultra hard....both increased libido gave more reps---i can't credit either with strength or recovery since they have stayed the same on both and i think alpha four was influential.
thanks for the detailed response . Interesting, I’m specifically interested in hardness, mood improvement and libido In that order. leaning is nice also. I will end up trying both eventually I’m sure.better leaning for sure with alpha seven, which caused slightly more vascularity than ultra hard...more energy and harder erections and slightly less vascularity with ultra hard....both increased libido gave more reps---i can't credit either with strength or recovery since they have stayed the same on both and i think alpha four was influential.
can't go wrong with either, imo. both pair up especially well with alpha four.thanks for the detailed response . Interesting, I’m specifically interested in hardness, mood improvement and libido In that order. leaning is nice also. I will end up trying both eventually I’m sure.
which 7-Keto product?they’re in the same bottles as the rest of the gels - each bottle contains 3,000mg 7-keto
this would be a pretty great stack with ThermoAmp
Iron Legion VII-KTwhich 7-Keto product?
sorry I thought the guy meant a new gel. Apologies. I like VII-KT.
some estrogen is good, if estrogen goes too low you won't be happy.It has a pretty decent amount of DHEA in it (more than Derma, but without the resveratrol). I'm not sure if at some point down the line that could aromatize into any quantity of estrogen that would be enough for concern, which is why I'm asking. It seems like its not a worry though
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