bassgod272
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cuz it makes me look fat :lol: seriously i dunno why, but i bloat VERY badly from it. i use AST's Micronized creatine.
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cuz it makes me look fat :lol: seriously i dunno why, but i bloat VERY badly from it. i use AST's Micronized creatine.
pantera101
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It's obvisouly impossible to tell,but I was just saying "why not?"Not asking.Just justifying why I use it yr round I guess.Their are non reponders to creatine.Not many,but their are people who don't respond.I heard it's possibly cause they already have high levels of creatine.
bassgod272
Well-known member
hmmmm, maybe that's my problem then...
BlackSheep
Banned
Creatine is found only in red meat and at a pretty good concentration. So if you eat a sht ton of beef, venison, elk human flesh, buffalo meat ext. then you probably already have as much as you can hold. I notice better muscle fullness when my diet is higher in stake, lean ground ext..........
Also I have read several different studies showing that creatine draws water into the intestines causing GI distress in many. Also to much creatine has a negative effect on the body due to the access creatine being broken down and turned into it's toxic bi-part Creatinine. This could also be one of the factors found in individuals who are either non-responders or experience bloat from the sports supplement Creatine Mono-hydrate.....
Ha,ha did think I knew stuff hu, well I know stuff:clap2:
pantera101
Banned
1 scoop of creatine(I guess 5 grams)is the equivalent of 2.5 lbs of uncooked red meat.So it probably takes more than that when cooked.It's also in some fish I just found out.
thundergod
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:goodpost:Seems like you're not just another pretty face after all, BlackSheep! I've heard even the "normal" person gets 3 grams of creatine everyday from the meat they consume. And we are anything but normal!! Your average lifter is probably eating enough to provide 5 to 7 grams of Creatine everyday. If regular Creatine Monohydrate is causing people gastric distress, I always recommend the CEE versions which seem much friendlier to the stomach!:thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
bassgod272
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:lol:
pistonpump
Banned
man i hope im not on cycle again in august...i mean i wish i could be....i cant.....sh1t son i guess only time will tell....seriously need to stay off longer than that tho:aargh:.....crap natty sucks:sad:.....awww fvck:twisted:.............im not coming off :fool2::lol:
how is that future cycle laid out?
hman85
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you crack me up piston, I like you man but your crazy!!!lol
hman85
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Oh sh1t son thats my time too. this is going to be a blast. I will be glad to have all my am family on board as well.
pistonpump
Banned
yeah and im gonna be a jealous mofo.
thundergod
Well-known member
Cool. I thought is was July. This gives me time for a summer cut cycle before the injectable cherry popper in August! Fukkin' A!! :woohoo: I've changed my plan slightly Bass. I'm going with Primobolan (per Arnold) instead of Test-E. My cycle will only be an 8-weeker. I'll still do the D-Bol kickstart @30 mg. per day the first 4 weeks. And I'll run the Primo @150 mg. EOD. I'm not after a huge bulk, like the rest of you guys. I've got plenty of mass now. Just trying to refine it! :bb2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thundergod
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Hell son, don't hate....participate!! lol You'll have time for an 8 week PCT if you're going off-cycle here soon. That's plenty of time. Join the phukkin' party Brah! :djparty: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
hman85
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I still think you should go with test, there are many ways to keep the bloat down. I never get bloated looking on test if i make the right precautions(ai,diet,ect..). You can make it a very lean cycle if you keep your calories correct. I think if you aren't trying to not gain alot of mass and keep your calories lower you will lean even more so and still put on some good muscle.test is used for more than just a bulk. imo
I wrote that twice so you will see it:hammer:
thundergod
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I've seen it broski. And I appreciate your suggestion. I believe you hman. I know I can keep my diet on point and not worry about fat gain. It's just that I really wanna try Primobolan/D-Bol out of respect to my Hero---Arnold! I may give Test-E or Test-Prop a run in the future. Also, I just like shorter cycles truthfully. The Primo/D-Bol would only be an 8 weeker. I could get by with a good 4 week PCT after that. Then maybe a 4 week "natty" run and I'll be ready to get back on the sauce!! lol THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
pistonpump
Banned
you cant copy arrrnald without using dat dere deca :hammer:
BlackSheep
Banned
Ha,ha wouldn't it be sweet if you could get like that natty......so much cheaper lol....:frustrate
hman85
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yeah some people can! i can't wait to see what the kid with the gene lacking myostatin looks like when he is 20, He is one jacked looking baby.
BlackSheep
Banned
No one has ever had "natty" 23" guns bro not all ripped and sht like that. Arnold had the best Upper arms I've seen to date:hammer: But it would be nice lol.....
And I agree the evolution of gene doping is going to yeild some super human bests the likes of which the world has never seen!
Any of you guys curious about this topic take 5 seconds to Google "Gene Doping" fcking nutz!! Me likey............:jaw:
hman85
Well-known member
So you think that no body ever has had 23 inch guns without sauce thats just ridiculous . What i am talking about isn't gene manipulation, it is about people that lack either one or both of the genes that produce myostatin. That is the gene that limits the amount of of muscle that the body can carry. If you lack these genes (like the kid i was talking about) then you put on extreme amounts of muscle with very little effort while having sub 10% body fat. It isn't somethnig thast is done but you are born that way.
BlackSheep
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I am well schooled on what myostatin is and the effects of it in the body. Have you read about gene doping Hman? Cause that's what it involves the inhibition of myostatin. They inject a drug into a virus then.........well just Google it bro it only takes a few and I swear it's worth the read. It is something that can be done and IS being done so....I might have some stuff on it already in my pc I can post. It's nuts!
I didn't say NO one has ever had 23" guns natty. My boy has 20" arms and he's natty but he also weighs like 320lbs and they don't look nearly as defined and vascular as Arnys did. There are zero natural bb'ers totin 23" arms as far as I know but if I'm wrong that's fcking awesome......Just haven't seen it, have you?
pantera101
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Nope.Most pros are 22" and I heard alot of them lie.I heard even Arnold lied and that they were actually.....Ah hell,let me find it again and I will say the article I read it in.
I can't figure out how to link it so go to tnation.com and search(top right corner)The Truth About Bodybuilding Arm Measurements.It's a great article and will probably make you feel a little bit better about your "pea shooters."
I can't figure out how to link it so go to tnation.com and search(top right corner)The Truth About Bodybuilding Arm Measurements.It's a great article and will probably make you feel a little bit better about your "pea shooters."
hman85
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I know of one personally he is a genetic freak though. I have read about the gene doping, from what i remember it is pretty far off from being used though.
BlackSheep
Banned
Yea, it's coming though! Sometimes science gets ahead of it's self IMO. We seem to get so caught up in "can it be done" that we don't ask ourselves "should it be done". I'll use "Jurassic Park as an example lol....JK. But seriously look at the atomic bomb! Even nuclear energy has it benefits but it's obviously extremely dangerous in the wrong hands and produces fcking cancer causing Radioactive wastes behind and if there's a melt down (Chernobyl for example) forget about it.
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".:hammer:
TerribleTowel
Active member
Yo bass I'm back up in the bizatch. I've been overwhelmed with work lately and haven't had time for the boards. How's the progress going?
rhodesman
Member
Yo bass! Where you been?
thundergod
Well-known member
Yo Bass, you got lots of friends here waitin' for an update on your PCT progress! We care about you buddy! How long until that awesome cutting cycle begins? We're all dying with anticipation!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
hman85
Well-known member
i think he died? CALLING BASSGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BlackSheep
Banned
He's not dead. I just talked to him the other day..........
pistonpump
Banned
he's flying stealth at the moment...
bassgod272
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first off, don't ask any questions about what has been going on. second, I just wanted to post here and say that if you guys haven't already, try the DC training method. I started it recently(today was my 2nd workout implementing it) and I fvckin love it so far! also, isopure zero carb apple melon protein plus 1 can of minute maid lemonade = one badas$ protein drink post-wo! it's soooooo good! it's only 25g protein, so you can add in something else like real food or another shake, but it's really tasty. I just wanted to share those 2 things :woohoo:
pistonpump
Banned
double up that scoop cuz!
BlackSheep
Banned
Did something happen :toofunny: jk
DC is a little too much for me I think unless I'm "enhanced" while doing it. And I'm using the Tropical flavored EvoPro protein right now and that sht is amazing too. Isopure dries out my mouth like a mofo! Does it yours B?
bassgod272
Well-known member
i do personally, but i need a huge ass mug cuz i need 2 cans of the lemonade, lol. otherwise it doesn't taste nearly as good. i can literally chug the stuff.
pantera101
Banned
Isn't DC the one where you hardly ever train?
pistonpump
Banned
less sets so less volume.... high intensity and with more frequency.
thundergod
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I'm a huge advocate for High Intensity Training as it was practised by the old stars like the Mentzer brothers Mike and Ray, Casey Viator, and even later stars like Dorian Yates and Branch Warren. Go fukkin' crazy on the weights till you think you're gonna die, then get the hela outta the gym and eat and grow!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
pantera101
Banned
With no more than 3 days a week I just read.I guess full body or close to it then?I'm going to stick with trying max ot.I like my time in the gym.
bassgod272
Well-known member
nah, doesn't really dry out my mouth at all. it just doesn't really taste like anything by itself. that's why i decided to mix it with lemonade. i LOVE the isopure ready to drinks in the galss bottles at GNC. i walk over there from the gym(only like 4 stores down) and grab one post-wo pretty often. for some reason the powder tastes NOTHING like the rtd's. :think:
bassgod272
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far from it bro. you get to train each body part every 3-4 days. like big P said, less volume, heavier weight, more frequency, etc. i fvckin LOVE it so far! my quads and hams are sore as a mofo!!! for example this is how you would train quads DC style: smythe machine squats, you do your warm-ups without actually fatiguing the muscle AT ALL. then you do 1 single working set of 4-6 reps(HEAVY) but you take 6 seconds on the negative portion of the rep then EXPLODE up for the positive. DC says that ending your rep on the negative portion causes more cell damage and is better for growth. then you rest for 3-5 minutes and do widowmakers. which are 20 rep squats. you don't HAVE to use the same exercise as your 4-6 rep one, but i just chose to do so. you could do widowmakers on leg press for example. i did 20 rep squats in the smythe. NOW for the fun part
EXTREME STRETCHING! This is the DC quad stretch: "Facing a barbell in a power rack about hip high --grip it and simultaneously sink down and throw your knees under the barbell and do a sissy squat underneath it while going up on your toes. Then straighten your arms and lean as far back as you can---60 seconds and if this one doesn't make you hate my guts and bring tears to your eyes nothing will---do this one faithfully and tell me in 4 weeks if your quads don't look a lot different than they used to." -DC
bassgod272
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yea i usually train alone. i only have a spotter when my one buddy is in the gym. we aren't training parnters per se, because we both have had them in the past, then they don't show up or are late or whatever. then you start to depend on them and are like "well jim bob isn't here, so i can't lift as hard." so we both said if we're here at the same time, we'll be partners, if not, we both lift hardcore as fvck anyway! he's 42yrs old, 225lbs, and 5'11" he's cool as hell too. but nah, i don't have a spotter, i know when i won't be able to do another rep, so i just stop 1 rep before that.
pantera101
Banned
Yeah spotters aren't necasary at all.They will become that way if you always use one though cause it's psychological.I'm thankfull I lifted at my home with no one but my dog for a couple years.When you have to set the bar on your chest and roll it on down to your knees,you learn when your last rep is.If you stop short,you will know cause you feel guilty cause it's like I could of got one more.Atleast with me anyways.Just don't be afraid of the bar and know when the weight goes down,it better go back up or it's going to be quite embarasing at a gym!Thats a physcological factor as well.Only this one works to your advantage!
Anyways I read on a site to train no more than 3 days a week.Was this maybe saying train the muscles no more than 3 times?Glad to see you're doing 20 rep sq's bass!I knew you would!
bassgod272
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i agree with you 100% about not having a spotter. you HAVE to get the weight up or else you'll drop it on yourself, lol. that gives you a little extra push. and you DEF do learn real quick when it's time to stop because you won't get 1 more full rep. 20 rep widowmakers are MANDATORY with DC training, so i'm doing them. my quads and hams are sooo fvckin sore still. they were really sore yesterday as well. i'm going to drink a bunch of bcaa's all day today and hope it helps, lol.
pantera101
Banned
If you've never done 20 reppers,or haven't done them in a while,you will get very sore.I'm almost positive the stretch marks on my upper thighs came when I first started doing 20 rep sq's.Where are you getting your info for DC training?Seems like it's secretive.Same way with max ot,you have to join the site to get it.I read bits and pieces from others on both DC and max OT,but not much.