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Bam Bam Goes Caveman-Mode: A Training Log

WAF said:
You can get good results with peptides if you use them correctly. Still they will mess with your hormones (igf/gh/insulin levels)but can keep your test production as is. I did some peptide runs while trying to do the same as the wife was trying to get pregnant. In the end you can achieve decent results as the same for all compounds everyone reacts differently to them some take better with this some not so much. You could also run mk-677 also just keep that in mind. Very good with gh and will require less pinning. In the end you need to figure out exactly what you want choose the best combo, price it out with proper dosing and see if it checks the cost category. It will be more of along the lines of a recomp effect with some muscle gain.
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Awesome, thanks man!

I tried mk-677 for a while and got some pretty bad bloating from it.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I agree with everything said here. Also peptides benefits show up faster when on anabolics but their effectiveness is not altered in any way by the anabolics or lack thereof. The peptides tend to make the most difference through creation and activation of new satellite cells. This happens whether you are on gear or not. However when on gear those newly activated cells grow MUCH faster. Not because there are more of them being activated, but because the newly activated muscle grows faster while on anabolics. So it seems like it is more effective when running an anabolic compound.

Either way you are basically going to get the same type of results in the end whether you run them alongside an anabolic compound, or run an anabolic later, the new cells are still going to grow at an accelerated rate once an anabolic is introduced. The timeline of when that acceleration occurs is just different based on when the new cells get hit with the anabolics aka immediately or later whenever another cycle is run.

Favorites of mine - CJC 1295 w/ DAC @ 3-5 mg a week is SWEET!!!!!! Don't let the GH Bleed crap fool you it is well worth a cycle. Good gains great leaning effects, top notch effectiveness! - DES 1'3 for PreWorkout with carbs, or post workout with carbs... Excellent! - MGF post workout with carbs, Lr3 Peri-workout with carbs

General Health, Fat Loss and some light muscle gain...
Mod GRF 1-29 - excellent for increasing and extending the GH spike
GHRP-2 excellent for causing spike, elicits the strongest reaction of GHRP's and increases prolactin slightly
Ipamorelen - Almost as strong as GHRP-2 and does not increase cortisol or prolactin.
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Yup my thoughts and same fav's lol
If your going to run GHRP-2 pick up a bottle of SNS Eliminate P it will help with the sides but i personally haven't noticed it in any of my runs. Ipam is a very good substitute as mentioned.
Also for fat loss and a great recomp is HGH-Frag just remember the timing of carbs and protein on it and gtg.

IE for my next pep run im going to do is GHRP-2/1295-wDac/HGH-Frag/PegMgf contemplating on using IGF-Des also. Personally i havent ran Des before but have heard great things about it. Also if running LR3 make sure your cycling it and not just running it for countless weeks at a time. I try to cycle every 4 weeks.

Just do the homework lay everything out that you think you feel should be a good run. If any ?'s always ask MrKleen73 or another reputable source that wont BS you for personal gain. If i can't help or don't the answer ill tell you straight up. But make sure you educate yourself first and foremost to know exactly what is going on a helps spotting any sides early on and adjust from there. hope this helps
 
WAF said:
What dosage?
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10mg. I can't remember if I ever upped it to 20mg or not, but I stopped after a few weeks because I was on Tren at the time and it messed me up lol and decided to just drop everything.

My hands blew up and took a few weeks to get back to normal even after dropping the mk-677. Stomach bloat started to drop after about 3 weeks on mk-677.
 
Crappy shoulder workout today. Woke up with a pounding headache and a sore throat after sleeping through 5 different alarms for class, got to lab a half hour late, and just have been feeling off today. Got to the gym and realized I left my headphones at home. Double whammy. I just did my best to still get a decent workout in, didn't try to go too heavy and just focus on good form and feeling the muscle work. I didn't keep track.
It's days like these that make me hate coming off cycle, just because of how "meh" I feel, and I look softer, less full, and smaller. At the same time it makes me feel like I should stay off for a while and let my body get back to normal and just take it easy for a while before I hit the anabolics hard again.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Crappy shoulder workout today. Woke up with a pounding headache and a sore throat after sleeping through 5 different alarms for class, got to lab a half hour late, and just have been feeling off today. Got to the gym and realized I left my headphones at home. Double whammy. I just did my best to still get a decent workout in, didn't try to go too heavy and just focus on good form and feeling the muscle work. I didn't keep track.
It's days like these that make me hate coming off cycle, just because of how "meh" I feel, and I look softer, less full, and smaller. At the same time it makes me feel like I should stay off for a while and let my body get back to normal and just take it easy for a while before I hit the anabolics hard again.
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Listen to your body it will always tell you what to do. Sometimes its a mental aspect also dont get to down on these days.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Crappy shoulder workout today. Woke up with a pounding headache and a sore throat after sleeping through 5 different alarms for class, got to lab a half hour late, and just have been feeling off today. Got to the gym and realized I left my headphones at home. Double whammy. I just did my best to still get a decent workout in, didn't try to go too heavy and just focus on good form and feeling the muscle work. I didn't keep track.
It's days like these that make me hate coming off cycle, just because of how "meh" I feel, and I look softer, less full, and smaller. At the same time it makes me feel like I should stay off for a while and let my body get back to normal and just take it easy for a while before I hit the anabolics hard again.
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bro you took an ass selfie in your spandex- no man alive would have an off day after that lol
 
WAF said:
Listen to your body it will always tell you what to do. Sometimes its a mental aspect also dont get to down on these days.
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Yeah, that's what I typically try to do, but it doesn't stop those thoughts from running through your head, know what I mean?
 
Just an off day man it is days like today that made the difference. The ones you could have put off and didn't.
 
Since there's so many knowledgable people in here I figured I would just post this here to get as much feedback.

I'm not sure if I will be doing this or not, I'm just kinda thinking and figuring out the price of everything.

HGH Frag - in the morning and then fast for a while. I'm unsure on dosage, one thing I read was saying 1000mcg? Is that too much?

CJC w/ DAC - 3mg a week.

Ipamorelim - 200-300mcg twice a day.
 
rascal14 said:
Since there's so many knowledgable people in here I figured I would just post this here to get as much feedback.

I'm not sure if I will be doing this or not, I'm just kinda thinking and figuring out the price of everything.

HGH Frag - in the morning and then fast for a while. I'm unsure on dosage, one thing I read was saying 1000mcg? Is that too much?

CJC w/ DAC - 3mg a week.

Ipamorelim - 200-300mcg twice a day.
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I think HGH frag is 200-250mcg 2-3 times a day
And CJC I would do like 750-1000mcg twice a week
Ipamorelin sounds like a good dosage.
Edit: Ignore this and listen to WAF lol
 
rascal14 said:
Since there's so many knowledgable people in here I figured I would just post this here to get as much feedback.

I'm not sure if I will be doing this or not, I'm just kinda thinking and figuring out the price of everything.

HGH Frag - in the morning and then fast for a while no carbs and eat some protein . I'm unsure on dosage, one thing I read was saying 1000mcg? Is that too much? I split 500 in the morning and 500 at night same carb/protein protocol. If i was to run say 750mg ed id go 500 morning with workout and 250 at night, but use the 500 around your workout time.

CJC w/ DAC - 3mg a week. Up it to 4mg (2mg twice a week) a few buddies of mine like 2.5mg twice a week though) it decays at 10% a day so 100% day 1 90% day 2 etc.

Ipamorelim - 200-300mcg twice a day. Never used it before, always have ran GHRP-2 ill ask a few buddies what they dose at and get back to you.
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BamBam0319 said:
WAF MrKleen73 do you guys still administer IGF-1 LR3 on off days?
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I do, Ill run it for 4 weeks then cycle of onto say PEG, then rotate noticed good results this way. Also IGF1-LR3 helps with testicular atrophy. Desensitisation occurs around day 40 from what i remember id have to check. Pretty much its like everything you don't want to start stop all the time. I've tried also running a half dose on days off and still gtg. Just remember you sugar and carbs still need to be there.
 
WAF said:
I do, Ill run it for 4 weeks then cycle of onto say PEG, then rotate noticed good results this way. Also IGF1-LR3 helps with testicular atrophy. Desensitisation occurs around day 40 from what i remember id have to check. Pretty much its like everything you don't want to start stop all the time. I've tried also running a half dose on days off and still gtg. Just remember you sugar and carbs still need to be there.
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Sweet, well I'm just getting home for the first time since this morning so I'll administer after I shower, before I go back out again.
It's my fraternity's mom's weekend, so all of our mothers are in town. We went hiking at a local spot and going to dinner and out on the town tonight. It's always fun!
 
rascal14 said:
WAF MrKleen73

Do you guys like CJC w/ DAC much better than w/o DAC?

The price difference to run the two for the same time is pretty big.
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on a side note fella's thanks for sharing the info on this- lots to learn and props to WAF and MrKleen73 and BamBam0319 you too rascal14

reading more up on this just to learn and asking questions soon. so will catch up on these threads and start asking some stuff so keep sharing bros
 
rascal14 said:
WAF MrKleen73

Do you guys like CJC w/ DAC much better than w/o DAC?

The price difference to run the two for the same time is pretty big.
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Yes. Honestly if its a money concern just hold off a bit until resources are better. Do things properly to get good results. Keep doing your research bro i'm not going to tell you no, just give you my opinion on it.
 
WAF said:
Yes. Honestly if its a money concern just hold off a bit until resources are better. Do things properly to get good results. Keep doing your research bro i'm not going to tell you no, just give you my opinion on it.
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Money's not a huge concern, I'm very picky with spending money so when I decide to actually spend money, I spend it on quality things lol I'll definitely stick with the DAC.
 
rascal14 said:
Money's not a huge concern, I'm very picky with spending money so when I decide to actually spend money, I spend it on quality things lol I'll definitely stick with the DAC.
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spoken truth right there-
 
rascal14 said:
WAF MrKleen73

Do you guys like CJC w/ DAC much better than w/o DAC?

The price difference to run the two for the same time is pretty big.
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MUCH! There are a few reasons, the biggest in my opinion is that it is simply more effective. You are paying more because you are actually getting better results. Secondly only needing to pin it 2-3 times a week is a huge benefit. Timing the Peptide shots with meals and everything can get tedious. So far out of the GHRP or GHRH that I have used CJC w/ DAC is my favorite hands down. Add to that some IPA like you are and holy crap! I have to warn you though, you do tend to go hypo on the higher doses of DAC. Your IGF levels get pretty high while on it on a high enough dose. This one the dose makes the difference, and 3-5mg a week is the money spot.

By the way if you are NOT getting major pressure in your head and almost an anxious feeling about 20 minutes after the shot you probably got a different peptide masquerading as CJC 1295 w/ DAC. I remember feeling my head feel kind of like someone blowing a ballon up inside it. It did not hurt but there was a pressure and I could feel my heartbeat in my ears and in my stomach. That is a reaction to the DAC. You may not feel the exact same but you should expect to feel it.

WAF said:
Yes. Honestly if its a money concern just hold off a bit until resources are better. Do things properly to get good results. Keep doing your research bro i'm not going to tell you no, just give you my opinion on it.
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This for sure. It is not cheap to run a cycle of DAC but it was one of the only peptides I feel like I got PH/DS like results running.
rascal14 said:
Money's not a huge concern, I'm very picky with spending money so when I decide to actually spend money, I spend it on quality things lol I'll definitely stick with the DAC.
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Good decision!
 
MrKleen73 said:
MUCH! There are a few reasons, the biggest in my opinion is that it is simply more effective. You are paying more because you are actually getting better results. Secondly only needing to pin it 2-3 times a week is a huge benefit. Timing the Peptide shots with meals and everything can get tedious. So far out of the GHRP or GHRH that I have used CJC w/ DAC is my favorite hands down. Add to that some IPA like you are and holy crap! I have to warn you though, you do tend to go hypo on the higher doses of DAC. Your IGF levels get pretty high while on it on a high enough dose. This one the dose makes the difference, and 3-5mg a week is the money spot.

By the way if you are NOT getting major pressure in your head and almost an anxious feeling about 20 minutes after the shot you probably got a different peptide masquerading as CJC 1295 w/ DAC. I remember feeling my head feel kind of like someone blowing a ballon up inside it. It did not hurt but there was a pressure and I could feel my heartbeat in my ears and in my stomach. That is a reaction to the DAC. You may not feel the exact same but you should expect to feel it.


This for sure. It is not cheap to run a cycle of DAC but it was one of the only peptides I feel like I got PH/DS like results running.

Good decision!
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Definitely know what you mean by feeling the CJC. Balloon head, warm rushing feeling to your face, slightly anxious for 5-10 min. Nothing too entirely unpleasant.
 
I do agree…CJC w/ DAC @ 5mgs a week blows almost everything else out of the water. If someone responds very well to GH and/or GH peptides they'll see themselves add on the size and almost melt fat away like nothing else.
 
BeastFitness said:
I do agree…CJC w/ DAC @ 5mgs a week blows almost everything else out of the water. If someone responds very well to GH and/or GH peptides they'll see themselves add on the size and almost melt fat away like nothing else.
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Damn Straight, it is legit!
 
Hell of a workout today.

Cable flies no handle
3x16.5x20

Flat DB press
40x10, 60x5, 80x3
4x100x8 double dropset 60x10, 35x15

Standing DB lateral raises
15x15, 20x15, 25x15, 30x12, 30x10
Superset with:
Incline DB flies
20x15, 30x15, 45x12, 60x10

Reverse grip BB press
95x10
3x135x15

Arnold press
30x10, 3x40x10
Superset with:
Cable flies no handle
4x16.5x20

Hammer strength side press (across the chest) on iso-lateral bench press
+45x15, x15, x15

Sled push 15 yard high hand position, 15 yard low hand position per round
285lbs, 375lbs, 465lbs
Superset with:
Clean and jerk
115x5, 115x5, 115x5

Finish with long battle rope:
15 seconds simultaneous slams, 15 seconds alternating, 30 second rest, repeat. Done
 
BOR
135x10, 185x5
3x225x10

Assisted pull-ups (-30lbs)
3x12

Close grip Lat pulldowns
88x20, 110x15, 143x12, 187x10

Hammer strength high row
(+45 and 25 each side)x24, 2x(+2 45s each side)x12

Rope handle cable face pulls
44x15, 49.5x15, 55x15
Superset with:
Rope handle straight arm Lat pulldowns
44x15, 49.5x15, 55x15

Seated hammer curls
4x35x15

Spider curls
3x40x15
 
Definitely feeling the PCT blues right now. (By the way, let's go STL Blues!)
I look soft, smaller, and I'm covered in acne on my face, chest, shoulders, and back. All the weights feel heavy although I can still move them.
Also, getting very tired of my university gym and having to wait 10-20 minutes for each exercise. Only got 4 things done today before we were out of time and had to leave.
Leg extensions
80x10
140x20, 185x15, 215x12, 245x10
Superset with:
Bodyweight squats
4x15

Back squats
135x10, 185x5
4x225x8

1.5 rep leg extensions
2x125x15, 110x15, 95x15

Standing calf press machine
120x20, 105x20, 90x20, 75x20
 
Putting some ideas out for my next cycle.
6-8 weeks epistane with 300mg test e
Possibly stacked with 11-keto
Bridge that to test C 250mg per week with EQ 600mg for 5 weeks, then 900mg for 5, and 1200 for the last 5.
I also have some Tren ace to play around with.
Orals on hand: superdrol, winstrol, LGD, diabolix, lots of trest as well as some TD trest.
 
Lots of goodies but all decent doses. Should be fun, when are you going to start again July/August?
 
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Lots of goodies but all decent doses. Should be fun, when are you going to start again July/August?
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Probably July, if I can hold out that long lol. I plan on getting blood work done before I start anything.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Putting some ideas out for my next cycle.
6-8 weeks epistane with 300mg test e
Possibly stacked with 11-keto
Bridge that to test C 250mg per week with EQ 600mg for 5 weeks, then 900mg for 5, and 1200 for the last 5.
I also have some Tren ace to play around with.
Orals on hand: superdrol, winstrol, LGD, diabolix, lots of trest as well as some TD trest.
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Not sure how much more results your going to get with 900 and 1200mg's of EQ might get pretty expensive with not much gain . If i was to run it it would be Test Cyp 250-500, EQ 600-800mg maybe jump start with some T-bol then switch to Winny and throw in some Masteron for duration of cycle. Love Mast its awesome when your a lil lean and with 11-kt it will be awesome. Tren Ace i would look at even thowing it in as frequent dosing needed id space them out every 3 days considering the other stuff. Small amount of Epi would be sweet to finish off with. Potent stuff also keep up on bloodwork to help with any issues that arise. Plan for a good PCT bro your going to be shutdown hard.
 
WAF said:
Not sure how much more results your going to get with 900 and 1200mg's of EQ might get pretty expensive with not much gain . If i was to run it it would be Test Cyp 250-500, EQ 600-800mg maybe jump start with some T-bol then switch to Winny and throw in some Masteron for duration of cycle. Love Mast its awesome when your a lil lean and with 11-kt it will be awesome. Tren Ace i would look at even thowing it in as frequent dosing needed id space them out every 3 days considering the other stuff. Small amount of Epi would be sweet to finish off with. Potent stuff also keep up on bloodwork to help with any issues that arise. Plan for a good PCT bro your going to be shutdown hard.
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The EQ I'm looking at getting is rated at 300mg/CC so that's why I had it at those doses, and it comes in a 5-pack so I will have extra even at those doses. Tbol's a good idea, I've been curious about it for a while but have not tried it yet.
You would dose tren ace every 3 days? That seems really far apart for acetate.
I hadn't thought about adding masteron to this cycle though. Not a bad idea!
I was also thinking about running the lean orals/TD (epi/11-kt) at the beginning, and then bridging into the EQ. Work on shredding up a little before I get all big and bad. Lol
I was toying with the idea of cruising after this cycle though, then blasting again, finally competing, and THEN coming off.
 
BamBam0319 said:
The EQ I'm looking at getting is rated at 300mg/CC so that's why I had it at those doses, and it comes in a 5-pack so I will have extra even at those doses. Tbol's a good idea, I've been curious about it for a while but have not tried it yet.
You would dose tren ace every 3 days? That seems really far apart for acetate.
I hadn't thought about adding masteron to this cycle though. Not a bad idea!
I was also thinking about running the lean orals/TD (epi/11-kt) at the beginning, and then bridging into the EQ. Work on shredding up a little before I get all big and bad. Lol
I was toying with the idea of cruising after this cycle though, then blasting again, finally competing, and THEN coming off.
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Yah tren ace is strong stuff bro the reason I suggest that is to be a lil easier on your body as it sounds like you'll be running a decent length. Pinning Ed sucks balls even if you don't mind pinning its just tedious and also can lead to accusation of scar tissue. A buddy of my was so bad he had to press against a wall to inject it and it sucks when you can hear the crunching of the needle going through the scar tissue. Also watch out for prolactin levels from the tren some people get dem leaky nips. Sns eliminate p would be a solid choice to help. If you've ran tren ace before go for every 2 days or Ed everyone is different. Personally I can run a ton of gear with no sides other friends touch certain compounds and almost instant sides. just airing on the side of caution for you. You'll see the amount of oil if you decide to run everything sometimes it's painful to train depending where you inject and compound. Lots of gear sometimes isn't the greatest choice and finding ones that will work synergenically would benefit more.

Masteron if real is awesome one of my favs and very overlooked. You could dose eq at 2.5cc ew 750mg is a good dose and have 4weeks per bottle. Protein synthesis will be optimal. Can always save the rest for a rainy day. I'm not really a big fan of ramping up EQ. For the years I've notice better results sticking to a set dosage. Keep in mind if you doing it 1200 that's 4cc of oil that needs to be dispersed and that's only the EQ. Test at a lil higher dosage might be an good option. Be aware of the lower back pumps on Tbol if you haven't ran it. My first 2 runs were really bad for it now I think I'm just used to it. Read up on it if you get a chance. Most of the time I'll run dbol to jump start then switch to Tbol. Dbol would be interesting with trest and a few others but really depends on what kind of gains your wanting to achieve. Deca is also really good but now is hard to find quality haven't seen any old Norma gens for awhile ie 2cc bottles at least that's what we call the up here. Deca is very helpful if on tren and winny for the extra lubrication but takes awhile to acutally kick in and has a long half life.

Bro be careful on blasting and cruising make sure you have all needed ancillaries on hand if things go sideways and some serms may not agree with you so having a substitute and hand is also a good idea. It gets expensive but I like to be ready for anything and it's better looking at it instead of looking for it. also remember that keeping regular blood tests is a must and you need to find someone or if you're knowledgable enough "not taking a poke at you" to diagnose. And know what to add or subtract if needed. All honesty bro your still very young I would just cycle and wait on blasting and cruising for a later date. Not trying to tell you what to do but just my personal suggestion.
 
WAF said:
Yah tren ace is strong stuff bro the reason I suggest that is to be a lil easier on your body as it sounds like you'll be running a decent length. Pinning Ed sucks balls even if you don't mind pinning its just tedious and also can lead to accusation of scar tissue. A buddy of my was so bad he had to press against a wall to inject it and it sucks when you can hear the crunching of the needle going through the scar tissue. Also watch out for prolactin levels from the tren some people get dem leaky nips. Sns eliminate p would be a solid choice to help. If you've ran tren ace before go for every 2 days or Ed everyone is different. Personally I can run a ton of gear with no sides other friends touch certain compounds and almost instant sides. just airing on the side of caution for you. You'll see the amount of oil if you decide to run everything sometimes it's painful to train depending where you inject and compound. Lots of gear sometimes isn't the greatest choice and finding ones that will work synergenically would benefit more.

Masteron if real is awesome one of my favs and very overlooked. You could dose eq at 2.5cc ew 750mg is a good dose and have 4weeks per bottle. Protein synthesis will be optimal. Can always save the rest for a rainy day. I'm not really a big fan of ramping up EQ. For the years I've notice better results sticking to a set dosage. Keep in mind if you doing it 1200 that's 4cc of oil that needs to be dispersed and that's only the EQ. Test at a lil higher dosage might be an good option. Be aware of the lower back pumps on Tbol if you haven't ran it. My first 2 runs were really bad for it now I think I'm just used to it. Read up on it if you get a chance. Most of the time I'll run dbol to jump start then switch to Tbol. Dbol would be interesting with trest and a few others but really depends on what kind of gains your wanting to achieve. Deca is also really good but now is hard to find quality haven't seen any old Norma gens for awhile ie 2cc bottles at least that's what we call the up here. Deca is very helpful if on tren and winny for the extra lubrication but takes awhile to acutally kick in and has a long half life.

Bro be careful on blasting and cruising make sure you have all needed ancillaries on hand if things go sideways and some serms may not agree with you so having a substitute and hand is also a good idea. It gets expensive but I like to be ready for anything and it's better looking at it instead of looking for it. also remember that keeping regular blood tests is a must and you need to find someone or if you're knowledgable enough "not taking a poke at you" to diagnose. And know what to add or subtract if needed. All honesty bro your still very young I would just cycle and wait on blasting and cruising for a later date. Not trying to tell you what to do but just my personal suggestion.
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Thanks man, all very good advice. I ran tren last cycle, and test/deca/dbol was my first injectable cycle. I personally wasn't a big fan of deca, but I loved the tren even though I didn't gain any weight. I pinned every day and ramped the dosage.
I wasn't planning on running a lot of different compounds this cycle, just the mild stuff at the beginning (epistane, 11-kt) then jumping into the EQ probably with a heavy hitting oral like tbol, dbol, trest or even anadrol possibly. I already have tren on hand so that was just something I was considering maybe finishing the cycle with, but I don't necessary need to use it this time around.

As far as the gains I want to achieve for this cycle, I'm trying to put on some serious mass. I know it takes a while to build up size but I'm really trying to bulk this time around. I like the idea of doing 750 EQ for 16 weeks.

I'm not 100% set on blasting and cruising, and even if I did, it would only be between this next cycle and the one after that, which would be my pre-contest cycle. After that I'd come off for a while. But that's not set in stone. All of this is still a considerable amount of time away from now.
 
In other news, I've had about 2500kcal today from homemade mass gainer shakes lol...
Morning shake:
1.5c whole milk
0.5c oats
0.5c vanilla Greek yogurt
1 scoop MTS Whey Peanut Butter Fluff
2 large bananas
3tbsp Jif peanut butter
Macros: 67.6g protein, 140g carbs, 42g fat

Second shake I made to take to work:
1.5c whole milk
1 scoop MTS Whey Peanut Butter Fluff
0.5c oats
4tbsp Jif peanut butter
1c vanilla Greek yogurt
1 large banana
1c fresh sliced strawberries
Macros: 82g protein, 116.5g carbs, 50g fat

Before work/after our workout, I got dragged to the mall as well as grocery shopping, and we ate at the Panera (I still call it St. Louis Bread Co.) and I had the tuna salad sandwich, the bag of chips that came with, and a blueberry pomegranate "power" smoothie. This meal totaled 850kcal with 26g protein, 199g carbs, 51g fat.

The gym I work at has a smoothie bar, and my manager was bored and made us smoothies with basically everything in it, so there's another amount of cals, no idea.

After work, I had a turkey sandwich with pickles on wheat bread and some spicy nacho Doritos. I'm on campus studying now, snacking on Jack Link's Turkey snack sticks, and Skippy P.B. Bites with Pretzel center. I've given up on keeping track lol.
Everything I kept track of till now (which includes everything except the current snacks, and the work smoothie) comes out to just over 4000kcal at 194g protein, 622g carbs, and 168g fat. Why could I not have eaten like this on cycle, dammit?!
 
BamBam0319 said:
Thanks man, all very good advice. I ran tren last cycle, and test/deca/dbol was my first injectable cycle. I personally wasn't a big fan of deca, but I loved the tren even though I didn't gain any weight. I pinned every day and ramped the dosage.
I wasn't planning on running a lot of different compounds this cycle, just the mild stuff at the beginning (epistane, 11-kt) then jumping into the EQ probably with a heavy hitting oral like tbol, dbol, trest or even anadrol possibly. I already have tren on hand so that was just something I was considering maybe finishing the cycle with, but I don't necessary need to use it this time around.

As far as the gains I want to achieve for this cycle, I'm trying to put on some serious mass. I know it takes a while to build up size but I'm really trying to bulk this time around. I like the idea of doing 750 EQ for 16 weeks.

I'm not 100% set on blasting and cruising, and even if I did, it would only be between this next cycle and the one after that, which would be my pre-contest cycle. After that I'd come off for a while. But that's not set in stone. All of this is still a considerable amount of time away from now.
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All honesty deca that you might have gotten might not have been real. If it was real I don't think you'd be saying that "not taking a shot".Especially with that combo Deca has great synergy with test . Don't bother with winny or masteron if thinking of it as a bulk cycle. Test, dBol, eq, tren, deca, Tbol gtg a-50 I wouldn't personally touch. Lots of options your throwing out there. I personally always start with the harder compounds and finish with the weaker ones. How much weight did you loose on pinning tren Ed? Weird should have gained something esp with test dbol and Deca. Best to sit down write everything out a come up with a solid plan. In the end just be careful bro.
 
WAF said:
All honesty deca that you might have gotten might not have been real. If it was real I don't think you'd be saying that "not taking a shot".Especially with that combo Deca has great synergy with test . Don't bother with winny or masteron if thinking of it as a bulk cycle. Test, dBol, eq, tren, deca, Tbol gtg a-50 I wouldn't personally touch. Lots of options your throwing out there. I personally always start with the harder compounds and finish with the weaker ones. How much weight did you loose on pinning tren Ed? Weird should have gained something esp with test dbol and Deca. Best to sit down write everything out a come up with a solid plan. In the end just be careful bro.
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I gained & kept 15 from the deca, and started and ended at that same weight with the tren. Now I'm actually down 5lbs from that
 
BamBam0319 said:
I gained & kept 15 from the deca, and started and ended at that same weight with the tren. Now I'm actually down 5lbs from that
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Ok that makes sense retaining 15 is good. I thought you were referring to using tren along with the test and Deca and dbol. May the gains be with you.
 
WAF said:
Ok that makes sense retaining 15 is good. I thought you were referring to using tren along with the test and Deca and dbol. May the gains be with you.
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Yes sir! Started at 200, jumped up to 225 while on the dbol, then gradually came down to 215 by the end of the cycle and stayed there until I started my next cycle. Jumped up to 225 when kickstarting the tren with superdrol, then dropped to about 218 while on, and then drastically dropped to 209 at my lowest shortly after coming off and I've been bouncing between 209 and 212 since then.
 
So I'm starting to think one of my peptides got mixed up with melanotan II or something... Ever since last Saturday I have been looking incredibly tan, to the point of dark, and getting lots of comments on it too. My boss said he thought I was a black guy out of the corner of his eye a couple days ago.
Wtf???
 
BamBam0319 said:
So I'm starting to think one of my peptides got mixed up with melanotan II or something... Ever since last Saturday I have been looking incredibly tan, to the point of dark, and getting lots of comments on it too. My boss said he thought I was a black guy out of the corner of his eye a couple days ago.
Wtf???
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Wow um not to make you nervous or anything but if thats the case of mis labeled peptides i'd be very leary on using anything else from which ever company you are using. could think one compound and it be something like LR3 going hypo without even knowing. Be careful bro.
 
WAF said:
Wow um not to make you nervous or anything but if thats the case of mis labeled peptides i'd be very leary on using anything else from which ever company you are using. could think one compound and it be something like LR3 going hypo without even knowing. Be careful bro.
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No I completely agree and that's why I'm worried.
 
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