Back from the Dead... FINAFLEX 550-XD Q&A...
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TurningGreen
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ScottyDoc said:
Well sir. To be honest. I never had a chance to use Novadex. I just started using PHs last year and I could never find it even though I've heard good things about it. The first pro about PCT Black is that it is readily available. Continuing the pros...PCT Black works for me and works perfectly every fugging time. I've ran 3 cycles since last year; one from Primordial Performance and two from Finaflex and every time PCT Black has been my go to for PCT needs. Also PCT Black is very affordable and also when used with Finaflex Pure Test DAA it is a one two punch to recovery and in some cases more gains depending on the severity of "shut down". If you haven't figured it out by know PCT Black is the BOMB!!
mattbaseball
New member
I agree. I have not shed alot of fat but have dropped a little. I was pretty lean to begin with.
I am on my 2nd day of stacking Epi-V/550 and am excited to see how this progresses.
DreamWeaver
Legend
I haven't used that product either, black with pure test works fine for me. I have used a lot of herbs and will use Tor for a lot of cycles. These milder cycles I plan on just sticking to the black and pure
Slipknotbro66
New member
Hey ok would finaflex be ok to stack while taking Test(injectable)
or also even deca (injectable)
my buddy has both test and deca injectables but im not sure which i should do or just stack both and leave finaflex alone not sure
please help
or also even deca (injectable)
my buddy has both test and deca injectables but im not sure which i should do or just stack both and leave finaflex alone not sure
please help
TurningGreen
Well-known member
Finaflex is not a supplement bro, its is a supplement company. I am honestly scared to answer further...no offense...and welcome to the forum.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah this is not the steroid forum there is a place for those kinds of questions and this is not it...
mattbaseball
New member
You are clueless bro by those comments. I pray you stay away because with your knowledge it would be hurting you to do ANYTHING!
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Hey Bro, I understand your question and the other guys are right, we are not trying to be Douches when we tell you this is the wrong place to ask that, but we are not at liberty to answer those types of questions as REPs, please look around on this forum and you will find many people speaking about their cycles, doses, lengths, what mixes or does not mix well with over the counter products, etc. Sorry we could not be of help to you, but we do thank you for considering FINAFLEX for your supplement needs!
TurningGreen
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550-XD progress pics up for week 2. Critiques welcome!
TurningGreen
Well-known member
AaronJP1 said:
1-Andro = Size and Strength
550-XD = Body Recomposition
Epi-V = Cut and Dry
To put it simply...IMO.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah it converts (2 step) to Deca so it will help with the joints and people are reporting good recomp with it.
TurningGreen
Well-known member
mattrag said:
Honestly I don't think I would feel any type of wetness with out PCT Black. I do get some bloating, but that usually from my sensitivity to carbs (when I have a cheat meal). My Joints seem to be as usual no magical healing of old injuries. I am taking the PCT Black with recommendation of Doc and I will continue to as my LOG is sponsored by Finaflex (my dose is doubled as well). On that same note there are some properties of PCT Black that the support matrix in 550-XD does not offer...so I'm getting the best of both worlds.
Magickk
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Suuup. I ran some SD, PP, HDrol cycles in the past and I'm very interested in 550. I wanna try it out with Epi-V for 30 days, followed up with PCT Rev Black + Pure Test.
I'm 29 years old, 175 lbs, 325 lb squat, 275 lb bench, run 6 miles in ~52 mins, 13% bf and I wanna get as shredded as possible while at least keeping / maybe putting on some mass. Here is my routine.
~2300-2800 cals / day
M/W/F Insanity + abs, some core.
T/Th - Lift (Chest / Back / Bis -> Legs / Shoulders / Tris) + 4-7 miles on the treadmill.
Sat - Run outside (or off)
Sun - Run outside (or off)
Could someone chime in and give me some feedback on what they think my results would be like please in regard to this particular stack? Appreciate it!
I'm 29 years old, 175 lbs, 325 lb squat, 275 lb bench, run 6 miles in ~52 mins, 13% bf and I wanna get as shredded as possible while at least keeping / maybe putting on some mass. Here is my routine.
~2300-2800 cals / day
M/W/F Insanity + abs, some core.
T/Th - Lift (Chest / Back / Bis -> Legs / Shoulders / Tris) + 4-7 miles on the treadmill.
Sat - Run outside (or off)
Sun - Run outside (or off)
Could someone chime in and give me some feedback on what they think my results would be like please in regard to this particular stack? Appreciate it!
DreamWeaver
Legend
I don't think 550 Xd is a really big gainer supp from the feedback I am getting, not like SD. I do think it's better for recomp. I think a person can put about 6-8 lbs on it but I think they could also drop some fat while on cycle. Given your experience I would think a 1-Andro 550 stack with a Epi-V bridge would be stellar. Remember these products are much less harsh, so an extended run is feasible. The stack should bring more gains but fairly dry gains and Epi-V will harden and dry you out having you looking extremely lean.
Magickk
Board Supporter
Thx for the feedback buddy. I was considering running the stack for 60 days, but wanted to get some input first on how effective it would be for my workout type, shutdown, etc.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Very minimal shutdown. I am going to run 550xd for 6 weeks then Epi-V for six myself. You could do something similar but you could go with the Andro-1, 550 combo say 3 of each for 30 days and then harden up with Epi-V... for 30 days. Or you could extend the first section to 6 weeks which would be optimal for you I think. Yah 6 and 4 sounds good.
chedapalooza
Legend
Could I run epi for 30 days in June followed by erase pro for 60 days? I bloat too much fromdaa so I would not want to take pure test.. Any other options?
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I both agree and want to add to what he said just a little... I think the 1-ANDRO + EPI-V Bridge would be the best way to get the maximum amount of lean Lbs gained and still drop the maximum amount of fat, I have proof that it can be done, because the 550-XD did not exist and that is exactly what and how I did it. I would take 4 caps/day of 1-ANDRO (1 cap in morning and 1 cap in evening, approx. 12hrs apart) for 4-6wks, then bridge over to 4 caps/day of EPI-V (1 cap in the morning and the other 6-8hrs before bed, has stims, so not to close to when you wanna sleep) for an additional 4-6 weeks. Also, if you do an extra long cycle like that, I do suggest taking 1 cap of PCT Black intra-cycle as in during your cycle as a cycle support and intra-cycle estrogen blocker and then just continue taking 1-2 caps per day for 30 days following your cycle, then when the cycle is complete I would rung 2 bottles of PURE TEST 6 caps/day for 40 days to guarantee your natural testosterone levels not only go back to normal, but even higher than normal, but will be your own natural test, will also guarantee you hold all of your hard earned muscle gains and fat loss, very important in my opinion!!!
chedapalooza
Legend
chedapalooza said:
Bump this.. I know pct black has same AI as erase. So
I was thinking 30 days epi+any Recomended cycle support, followed by 60 days erase pro + any natty t booster (30/60 days) besides DAA ..
I was planning on using hghup in June as well, can hghup be stacked with epi?
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah that's another option, depends what is more important the leaning or the size gains. Al's choice is actually betterfor the guy I saw in the AVI if that's you. You will still get nice an lean either way, but 1-Andro has the best gains. Another reason I like the idea of 550 for me though is the benefits for my joints. Plus I want to get stupid lean for my summer look
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Yah that's another option, depends what is more important the leaning or the size gains. Al's choice is actually betterfor the guy I saw in the AVI if that's you. You will still get nice an lean either way, but 1-Andro has the best gains. Another reason I like the idea of 550 for me though is the benefits for my joints. Plus I want to get stupid lean for my summer look
LoL... wasn't even thinking, but yes I absolutely based my opinion off the picture of the guy in the Avi... so excellent point DW, good catch!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah I was pretty sure it was him but didn't know if he was still in that kind of shape...
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Like I said, good call, always better to ask and get clarity, the difference is in the details and DW has a Keen eye for the Details, hence the reason he Reps for FINAFLEX... heheheheh-hahahahaha!!!
DreamWeaver
Legend
They don't anal only because I like big buts... (I do I really do) ...
chedapalooza
Legend
Ok guys I'm confused. All labels say do not exceed 8 weeks continuous use.. Example: general rule of thumb for arimistane / erase is do not use longer than 8 weeks without 4 week break.. But this is the issue here:
550 contains arimistane, so does pct black.
If following maximum cycle guidelines of 60 days MAX of 550+1 cap pct black for 60 days (8.5) weeks, you have already EXCEEDED the 8 week limit for a product of arimistane's nature (ai)... THEN, you must take pure test+pct black for another 30 days (4 weeks) so when all is said and done, you have run an AI for 12 weeks... Am I the only one seeing this issue?
Also- if taking pct black during the cycle, are you not consuming TOO MUCH arimistane? Would it be best to save the pct black for strictly post?
I'm NOT bashing. Im genuinely confused and trying to plan my cycle correctly... I'm just seriously confused by this.
550 contains arimistane, so does pct black.
If following maximum cycle guidelines of 60 days MAX of 550+1 cap pct black for 60 days (8.5) weeks, you have already EXCEEDED the 8 week limit for a product of arimistane's nature (ai)... THEN, you must take pure test+pct black for another 30 days (4 weeks) so when all is said and done, you have run an AI for 12 weeks... Am I the only one seeing this issue?
Also- if taking pct black during the cycle, are you not consuming TOO MUCH arimistane? Would it be best to save the pct black for strictly post?
I'm NOT bashing. Im genuinely confused and trying to plan my cycle correctly... I'm just seriously confused by this.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Taking PCT black during cylcle is purely a personal choice, when we take it during cycle we take a moderate dose. I believe many have run arimistane longer than 8 weeks with no problems.
sae1856
New member
hey, How would you guys recommend me adding havoc to my 550xd cycle? stacked or bridged? im 21, 6'2", 180 and used your original 550xd over a year ago. i'll be taking cycle assist and milk thistle along with 1 cap/day of revolution black while on cycle. Nolva and Pure Test for PCT. thanks
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Not really familiar with Havoc, sorry! Maybe DreamWeaver will have more knowledge and can shed some light on the subject! The rest of your little cycle, cycle-assist, & PCT all look great!!!
DreamWeaver
Legend
I am thinking you could stack the 2. I like a bridge with this, going to be very dry this combo. Say Weeks 1-6 3 to 4 550 ed then weeks 5 to 8 add in the the havoc at around 30mg ed. This all depends on experiece as well. I wouldn't recommend this to a first timer.
sae1856
New member
Thats exactly what i was thinking DW, except i really dont want to have to buy another bottle of 550xd. I was thinking of just running 2caps/day for weeks 1-4 and 30mg of Havoc weeks 3-6. prolly will only run liv52 as a support while on, Revolution PCT, Nolva and Pure test for PCT, think that sounds good? my goal is 8-10lbs. It's only my second run on PH's although my first run was the original Superdrol/Tren 550xd. Also, would i be better off taking 1 cap/day of your Revolution PCT for cycle assist than the liv52? Really appreciate the help DW
MuscleGauge1
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DreamWeaver
Legend
Sounds ok and yah the 1 cap of Rev PCT should be ok 550 has some liver suport also.
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I would not know, I am not really familiar with that product, but I feel that same way about our EPI-V, unless of course you are bridging it from another product such as 1-ANDRO or our 550-XD, then 4wks is good enough to rip it down at the end or something!
DreamWeaver
Legend
That depends on a lot of factors 6 weeks for an experienced person with prohormones would be ok possible even 8 at that low a dose.
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I agree with DW, but at 4caps/day you could see decent results in 30 days, better results in 45 days, and max results in 60 days, but that is about as long as I would feel comfortable recommending to anyone who wasn't extremely experienced and knew all the risks and protective measures needed in which to take that product for a more extended period of time!
LiveToLift
Legend
ion26 said:
I was thinking this too, if money is the issue cycling probably shouldn't be in your future. That or cut the havoc and stick to just the 550...
MuscleGauge1
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sae1856
New member
I agree. Prolly just gonna stick with the 550 for now. the only reason i was considering the havoc was b/c two bottles of that will run you around the same price as the 550. I may pick up another bottle of 550 in week 3, just finishing up week 1, no gains yet.
darkstr
New member
I'm sorry I was too lazy to read all the posts.. Anyway I just found your product and I would be interested to add it into my first cycle what I'm going to run soon. Unfortunately I already bought some LG's products and I'm wondering could I stack Finaflex 550 XD with LG M1D Black and MMv3 ? If I'm able to add this is Finaflex 550 XD liver toxicated, do I need cycle support ? How about PTC I've read that you recommend your PTC of course but do you think LG's FormX + Driven Sports ActiveX would be strong enough PTC because I already bought 2x FormX and 1x DS AX 
DreamWeaver
Legend
I'm sorry I was too lazy to read all the posts.. Anyway I just found your product and I would be interested to add it into my first cycle what I'm going to run soon. Unfortunately I already bought some LG's products and I'm wondering could I stack Finaflex 550 XD with LG M1D Black and MMv3 ? If I'm able to add this is Finaflex 550 XD liver toxicated, do I need cycle support ? How about PTC I've read that you recommend your PTC of course but do you think LG's FormX + Driven Sports ActiveX would be strong enough PTC because I already bought 2x FormX and 1x DS AX
Too much for a first cycle in my opinion
darkstr
New member
Thank you Sir. So I should just go with LG's products and see what happens. Now I'm just sad because I didn't realize the opportunity run PHs earlier. I've spent last 2 years in the United States and now I'm leaving after 3 months but I'll come back after a year or so so maybe I'll try your cycle at that time