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Back from the Dead... FINAFLEX 550-XD Q&A...

JRockNJ said:
ScottyDoc what are you recommending as an effective dose for 550xd black? I'm weighing in at 230 with about 12.5% BF now.
Had GREAT results with the original 550xd at 2 caps/day.
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I think this will be more like 3 or 4 ed, Scotty may have other ideas but we usually agree...
 
MasterMindz said:
ScottyDoc, My biggest question about this supplement is, do you know how this supplement is compared to the old FinaFlex 550 XD. The old one was very effective.. What would the new one be compared to the old one? Better, Not as good, Or about the same? What do you think?
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This is different from the older one which was probably very strong with the gains, this will be a safer product, less sides with some good gains still. It should be very good for the joints and you should experience decent strength gains. The shutdown should be much much milder so maintaining gains will be easier. Less gains probably but more maintainable.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
What was the ingredient of the previous product?
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It was Superdrol an Xtren basically... personally the old one would have been a bit harsh for me. I like the direction Finaflex is taking by supplying safer products at a reasonable price. That is why I asked to join the company.
 
Yikes!! Yeah I would shy away from that one for sure. The new one on the other hand...hmmmm
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Yikes!! Yeah I would shy away from that one for sure. The new one on the other hand...hmmmm
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Exactly, this is the way I want to see things going... towards safe and yet effective products and don't forget about the reasonable price tag on these products. Plus they will be around for awhile. I think we are finding a happy medium here.
 
JRockNJ said:
ScottyDoc what are you recommending as an effective dose for 550xd black? I'm weighing in at 230 with about 12.5% BF now.
Had GREAT results with the original 550xd at 2 caps/day.
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JRock... this new 550 is an incredible product, but unfortunately nothing is ever going to be quite as potent as the original 550 (tren & superdrol) those are banned substances. With that being said and this is obviously not your 1st cycle, I would take the maximum recommended dose of 4 caps / day (2 caps in am, 2 caps 12hrs later in pm) for 45 days, that will get you where you want to be!
 
MasterMindz said:
ScottyDoc, My biggest question about this supplement is, do you know how this supplement is compared to the old FinaFlex 550 XD. The old one was very effective.. What would the new one be compared to the old one? Better, Not as good, Or about the same? What do you think?
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The new 550 is 100% DSHEA compliant, it is much safer and less toxic to the body. As far as effectiveness in size and strength, similar results can be achieved, but at a higher dose than the original 550, unfortunately not many ingredients can compare to Tren & Superdrol, two currently banned substances that made up the ingredients of the original 550!
 
DreamWeaver said:
This is different from the older one which was probably very strong with the gains, this will be a safer product, less sides with some good gains still. It should be very good for the joints and you should experience decent strength gains. The shutdown should be much much milder so maintaining gains will be easier. Less gains probably but more maintainable.
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DreamWeaver said:
It was Superdrol an Xtren basically... personally the old one would have been a bit harsh for me. I like the direction Finaflex is taking by supplying safer products at a reasonable price. That is why I asked to join the company.
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As always, DW & I are on the same page! The old 550 formula was way too harsh for me, I never took more than 1cap/day for 30 days and yes, I would get big and strong, and very shut down in the labido dept. and no matter how well I PCT'd I don't think I ever maintained more than like 40-50% of my gains!

Our newer version of 550 is way less harsh on your liver & kidneys, not to mention it has been in my experience that small steady gains over a longer period of time are always much more maintainable than unbelievable gains in extremely short time frames! I mean come on guys, I know people who gained 30Lbs in 30 days on the original 550, do you really think anyone kept all that??? I would expect a really good cycle of our new 550, like an experienced person taking 4 caps (2 caps in the am & 2 caps 12hrs later in the pm) for 45 days would elicit about 15Lb gain and if PCT'd correctly that person should maintain 80+% = 12+Lbs. FYI... a perfect PCT would include 40 days worth of 6 caps/day of PURE TEST following their cycle!
 
ScottyDoc said:
As always, DW & I are on the same page! The old 550 formula was way too harsh for me, I never took more than 1cap/day for 30 days and yes, I would get big and strong, and very shut down in the labido dept. and no matter how well I PCT'd I don't think I ever maintained more than like 40-50% of my gains!

Our newer version of 550 is way less harsh on your liver & kidneys, not to mention it has been in my experience that small steady gains over a longer period of time are always much more maintainable than unbelievable gains in extremely short time frames! I mean come on guys, I know people who gained 30Lbs in 30 days on the original 550, do you really think anyone kept all that??? I would expect a really good cycle of our new 550, like an experienced person taking 4 caps (2 caps in the am & 2 caps 12hrs later in the pm) for 45 days would elicit about 15Lb gain and if PCT'd correctly that person should maintain 80+% = 12+Lbs. FYI... a perfect PCT would include 40 days worth of 6 caps/day of PURE TEST following their cycle!
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Thats what it is all about, keeping your gains. I crack up when I see people blow up in 30 days because I know better and it won't last
 
Liking what I'm hearing. DW/ScottyD - Any early returns or log updates on the new 550xd? Reports on initial strength gains?
 
I will be running 550 as soon as it arrives. Just got confirmation that my order shipped. I'm really excited to run this. I will drop in with periodic updates as my run goes along. I haven't ran anything in about a year so this should be fun!
 
JRockNJ said:
Liking what I'm hearing. DW/ScottyD - Any early returns or log updates on the new 550xd? Reports on initial strength gains?
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Yah we will be on the lookout for reviews and will get them in here soon. Al did not get his bottle for testers this run as we could not keep up with the demand.
 
drinkyboy said:
I will be running 550 as soon as it arrives. Just got confirmation that my order shipped. I'm really excited to run this. I will drop in with periodic updates as my run goes along. I haven't ran anything in about a year so this should be fun!
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Right on that is really going to help us out, so any information you can share will be most helpful. Just lay it out for us and we will help out any way we can.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Right on that is really going to help us out, so any information you can share will be most helpful. Just lay it out for us and we will help out any way we can.
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DrinkBoy... along with what DW just said "we will help you any way we can", if you run a solid LOG on the new 550-XD Black and PCT REVOLUTION Black, I will supply you with the two bottles of PURE TEST to complete your LOG, what do you say... "You scratch our back, we scratch yours"???
 
DreamWeaver said:
You would have to go 2 ed with just the one bottle. I would have to know more about you to know if that would be effective for you....
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MasterMindz... I totally agree with DW based on your question, but it is of our opinion, all of us at FINAFLEX... the going recommendation (Maximum Results) for a cycle of 550-XD Black is (2 bottles) 3 caps/day (every 8hrs) for 45 days!
 
ScottyDoc said:
DrinkBoy... along with what DW just said "we will help you any way we can", if you run a solid LOG on the new 550-XD Black and PCT REVOLUTION Black, I will supply you with the two bottles of PURE TEST to complete your LOG, what do you say... "You scratch our back, we scratch yours"???
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Do it man, I vote for log! :) I know when I run epi-v I'm logging it :) can't wait
 
Ok I'm in! My 550 will be here tomorrow according to the tracking number I received. I will start it as soon as I get it. My schedule will be weights Monday-Friday and weekends off. I'm thinking I may start off at 1 cap 2x daily for the first week and then bump it up to 1 cap 3x daily for the remainder of the run. Any suggestions anyone?
 
drinkyboy said:
Ok I'm in! My 550 will be here tomorrow according to the tracking number I received. I will start it as soon as I get it. My schedule will be weights Monday-Friday and weekends off. I'm thinking I may start off at 1 cap 2x daily for the first week and then bump it up to 1 cap 3x daily for the remainder of the run. Any suggestions anyone?
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You got 2 bottles right? I would just do a straight 3 caps/day (every 8hrs) for 40 days (pretty much 6wks). It already has intra-support in it, so no need to follow my typical advice of 1 cap of PCT/night intra-cycle! But, I do advise taking 6 caps (3 grams)/day of PURE TEST/night for 40 days (two bottles) with your PCT (which should be 2 caps of PCT REV Black for 30 days following cycle). Now... as promised if you conduct a very detailed LOG on this new FINAFLEX 550-XD Black series, I promise I will send you those two bottles of PURE TEST Absolutely FREE!

Other than that, I recommend you find your resting metabolism (calories needed to maintain your body), then from there add 500 cals if you are looking to bulk, reduce by 500 cals if you are looking to cut, keep the same if you are looking to do a Lean Bulk. As far as your Macros are concerned... the Basics are 50% protein, 25% carbs, 25% fat. Now if you are good at this DW and I are, then you will know your body, for example... my body can get away with more fats and less carbs, so something more like this 50% protein, 30-35% fat, 15-20% carbs... I am an ENDOMORPH (body-type). Also, the way DW and I diet is a little different, but we both understand and respect the way the other diets, mine is very rigid, very boring and basically the same thing at the same time, day in and day out, DW's way of dieting has more variety less rigid and works very well for him and many others, I will let him describe it more in detail to you!
 
Okay since i only purchased one bottle and i will be taking it 2x a day for 30 days, would it be fine to drink a protein shake a long with it? I'm worried about my strength and size gains now because i did not know i was supposed to purchase two bottles and i ran kind of low on money..So what do you think?
 
ScottyDoc said:
MasterMindz... I totally agree with DW based on your question, but it is of our opinion, all of us at FINAFLEX... the going recommendation (Maximum Results) for a cycle of 550-XD Black is (2 bottles) 3 caps/day (every 8hrs) for 45 days!
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That's the spirit... tempt him with a little bribe :) lol yah I would love to see this logged and the Pure Test will really round out his stack...
 
ScottyDoc said:
You got 2 bottles right? I would just do a straight 3 caps/day (every 8hrs) for 40 days (pretty much 6wks). It already has intra-support in it, so no need to follow my typical advice of 1 cap of PCT/night intra-cycle! But, I do advise taking 6 caps (3 grams)/day of PURE TEST/night for 40 days (two bottles) with your PCT (which should be 2 caps of PCT REV Black for 30 days following cycle). Now... as promised if you conduct a very detailed LOG on this new FINAFLEX 550-XD Black series, I promise I will send you those two bottles of PURE TEST Absolutely FREE!

Other than that, I recommend you find your resting metabolism (calories needed to maintain your body), then from there add 500 cals if you are looking to bulk, reduce by 500 cals if you are looking to cut, keep the same if you are looking to do a Lean Bulk. As far as your Macros are concerned... the Basics are 50% protein, 25% carbs, 25% fat. Now if you are good at this DW and I are, then you will know your body, for example... my body can get away with more fats and less carbs, so something more like this 50% protein, 30-35% fat, 15-20% carbs... I am an ENDOMORPH (body-type). Also, the way DW and I diet is a little different, but we both understand and respect the way the other diets, mine is very rigid, very boring and basically the same thing at the same time, day in and day out, DW's way of dieting has more variety less rigid and works very well for him and many others, I will let him describe it more in detail to you!
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Well my way of dieting is IF for intermitent fasting, you can read up on it it's the Lean Gains diet. This does allow for more freedom of eating. It is a diet that works very well for endo's but no so well for people who have a hard time gaining. So body type is key. I do believe hard gainers should definitely eat more frequently as they tend to use up nutrients at a faster rate. Another thing about ecto types or hard gainers is that they seem to be less insilun sensitive and can handle more carbs. 40/40/20 could actually be used.

We can help you sort out your diet but, do not start till your diet is in place. Al is correct you will likely want a small calorie surplus and high protein as protein synthesis will increase.

If you're already all dialed in with your diet then that's fine as long as you're confident it will work for you.
 
DreamWeaver said:
That's the spirit... tempt him with a little bribe :) lol yah I would love to see this logged and the Pure Test will really round out his stack...
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I was actually bribing DrinkBoy, but I agree with you DW, if MasterMindz is willing to purchase a 2nd bottle and both run it the way I suggest and run a LOG here on AnabolicMinds, then I will throw in two bottles of PURE TEST to help perfect his Post Cycle Therapy!!!
 
Yes you can take it with a protein drink and I guess you really don't have any other choice as far as doseing options go. You could always send it to me if you change your mind lol.
 
Curious as to why you think you couldnt drink a protein drink while on PH's ? :/

From what Scotty says you want to take it with food preferably anyways
 
mattbaseball said:
Curious as to why you think you couldnt drink a protein drink while on PH's ? :/

From what Scotty says you want to take it with food preferably anyways
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Fats is the best thing, but a few fish oil can handle that for you...
 
mattbaseball said:
Are you saying it is best to take the PH's with fat? So it doesnt have to be a big meal but rather as long as it has some fat in it? I assume that is because it helps the absorption?
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I could be wrong (in for he knowledge DW if I am), but I think what DW is trying to say is that you should always eat a very high amount of protein whether you are on a PH or not! Proteins are the building blocks of muscle (the nails and the 2 x 4's) and carbs and fat are your energy source (the workers) and the PH is like giving those workers an intense energy and concentration drink so they perform at the most efficient rate. Well you can have all the workers in the world and if you don't have the nails and 2 x 4's that house is not getting built, so no protein and those muscles will not grow. Now what happens if you do not consume enough carbs and fats? Your body will look to its reserve tanks for it (fat)... So always, always "Feed the Muscle, Starve the Fat" As far as DW saying healthy fats, like fish oils, basically talking about your EFA's (essential fatty acids - Omega 3-6-9's) they are good fats, promote good cholesterol (HDL's) vs. bad cholesterol (LDL's) and in essence promote fat loss in a healthy diet with exercise!

Also, all I saw was him asking you what I had said to you to make you believe or wonder about whether you should continue to drink protein shakes while on a PH? I am curious of this one as well!
 
Fat does help with absorption yes but you still have to keep a balanced diet of course. Protein synthesis should increase with use of anabolic compoiunds like PH's that accounts for a a lot of the excess growth. Maybe an increase of 8 to 10 percent of what you would normally take in. Fats should be consumed with your pills, a lot of people will use fish oil when they can't take them with food. I will try and find a good article about fat intake increasing absorpption.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Fat does help with absorption yes but you still have to keep a balanced diet of course. Protein synthesis should increase with use of anabolic compoiunds like PH's that accounts for a a lot of the excess growth. Maybe an increase of 8 to 10 percent of what you would normally take in. Fats should be consumed with your pills, a lot of people will use fish oil when they can't take them with food. I will try and find a good article about fat intake increasing absorpption.
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Ahh, see there was more to it than I realized! Thanks DW... Bump for the knowledge!
 
Here's a PubMed blurb there are more details available in other articles as well...

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ScottyDoc said:
I could be wrong (in for he knowledge DW if I am), but I think what DW is trying to say is that you should always eat a very high amount of protein whether you are on a PH or not! Proteins are the building blocks of muscle (the nails and the 2 x 4's) and carbs and fat are your energy source (the workers) and the PH is like giving those workers an intense energy and concentration drink so they perform at the most efficient rate. Well you can have all the workers in the world and if you don't have the nails and 2 x 4's that house is not getting built, so no protein and those muscles will not grow. Now what happens if you do not consume enough carbs and fats? Your body will look to its reserve tanks for it (fat)... So always, always "Feed the Muscle, Starve the Fat" As far as DW saying healthy fats, like fish oils, basically talking about your EFA's (essential fatty acids - Omega 3-6-9's) they are good fats, promote good cholesterol (HDL's) vs. bad cholesterol (LDL's) and in essence promote fat loss in a healthy diet with exercise!

Also, all I saw was him asking you what I had said to you to make you believe or wonder about whether you should continue to drink protein shakes while on a PH? I am curious of this one as well!
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Great post. I was just curiois what DW meant about his post about fats in reference to PH pills?

I take my fish oil, D3, and multi every morning with breakfast
 
mattbaseball said:
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Great post. I was just curiois what DW meant about his post about fats in reference to PH pills?

I take my fish oil, D3, and multi every morning with breakfast
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Fats help with androgen absorption. I always take some fish oil with my dose.
 
MasterMindz said:
I was just hopping I could still receive decent gains through one bottlet
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What (in your mind) do you consider decent gains, just so we can keep it realistic?
 
MasterMindz said:
Maybe gain around 10 pounds and improve my power clean and bench max by around 15 pounds.. Is that realistic?
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If it is very lean dry weight... more like 7Lbs (but possible considering it is your 1st cycle). The strength increases should at least the that if not more!!!
 
ScottyDoc said:
If it is very lean dry weight... more like 7Lbs (but possible considering it is your 1st cycle). The strength increases should at least the that if not more!!!
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Yah I will take 7 dry pounds over 15 wet ones any day... but Al's right, if your diet is on point 10 lbs is in the ball park... and I also would expect better strength gains with it being a 1-test precursor...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah I will take 7 dry pounds over 15 wet ones any day... but Al's right, if your diet is on point 10 lbs is in the ball park... and I also would expect better strength gains with it being a 1-test precursor...
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^^^ My sentiments Exactly ^^^
 
MasterMindz said:
So I could achieve even higher strength gains with harder work?
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1-Test was a major strength enhancer, so this compound should give you good strength gains. I was one of the early board members here and I got the opportunity to run 1-Test and let me tell you the strength gains were just there. It was the same wiith 1-AD so the effect should still be there with 1-Andro.
 
MasterMindz said:
So I could achieve even higher strength gains with harder work?
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Absolutely, just don't go in reverse and over-train... What is your training regiment (give us a week), what is your diet & nutrition like (give us a sample day)?
 
ScottyDoc said:
Absolutely, just don't go in reverse and over-train... What is your training regiment (give us a week), what is your diet & nutrition like (give us a sample day)?
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On that subject, for those of you have some difficulty to set up a good routine, Just read up on HST or even try Chris Tuckers, warrior workouts they are sensible and effective and easy to impltement for the layman... not saying this is dhe case here, just throwing it out there.
 
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