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Would there be any difference in OL's vs Swanson ksm-66?
 

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Shouldn't be if they are both using KSM-66 as its a patented ingredient.
 
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KSM-66 is a standardized form of Ashwagandha, so it should be the same. Are you just looking to take KSM-66 solo?
 

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I'm already getting through my OL kings blood. It's for my wife and she's been on Swanson ksm-66 but bogo on OL's is tempting.
 
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I'm already getting through my OL kings blood. It's for my wife and she's been on Swanson ksm-66 but bogo on OL's is tempting.
So basically you're asking if your wife can use kingsblood?
 

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No, asking if there would be and difference in swapping her from Swanson ksm-66 to OL's ashwagandha.
 
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No, asking if there would be and difference in swapping her from Swanson ksm-66 to OL's ashwagandha.
Nope. When taken at the correct dose, the OL ash product will give you the same, if not higher levels of Withanolides.
 

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Cool thanks, just ordered bogo OL ashwagandha.
 

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I'd stick with ksm-66. Many studies to back it. Plus, OL is only 1.5% withonolides. So, more than 3X the amount is needed vs ksm. Could cause upset stomach or other issues. Also, know exactly what you're getting every time with a patented extract...not to mention it only being $0.10 for 300 mg capsule. That's cheaper than OL ash (when dosed for same quantity of withonolides).
 
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I'd stick with ksm-66. Many studies to back it. Plus, OL is only 1.5% withonolides. So, more than 3X the amount is needed vs ksm. Could cause upset stomach or other issues. Also, know exactly what you're getting every time with a patented extract...not to mention it only being $0.10 for 300 mg capsule. That's cheaper than OL ash (when dosed for same quantity of withonolides).
Really preference, I think when its BOGO, its a pretty good deal. We actually use KSM 66 in a number of our products, so we have nothing but positive things to say about KSM 66.
 
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I would personally stick with Jarrow. It is dirt cheap it lasts forever.
 
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Ksm66 ftw
 
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I'd stick with ksm-66. Many studies to back it. Plus, OL is only 1.5% withonolides. So, more than 3X the amount is needed vs ksm. Could cause upset stomach or other issues. Also, know exactly what you're getting every time with a patented extract...not to mention it only being $0.10 for 300 mg capsule. That's cheaper than OL ash (when dosed for same quantity of withonolides).
It's standardized though, so you know exactly what you're getting, it's not like a random non-standardized ash where you're playing the guessing game. Yeah you have to dose it a bit higher, but when it's on BOGO (which it is right now on Nutriverse), it ends up being a good deal. Either way, you're fine.
 
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What's the point of testing and patents if people copy and make generic products . Sure it looks the same but no work involved
 
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I would personally stick with Jarrow. It is dirt cheap it lasts forever.
I got the Jarrow, and think it was due to your suggestion, so thanks! Got it off of Amazon. (Prime)
 
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Both good companies, but if the Jarrow has been good for you why change?
 
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What's the point of testing and patents if people copy and make generic products . Sure it looks the same but no work involved
They make money off of patents and there's millions of people who will not buy generic products.
 
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They make money off of patents and there's millions of people who will not buy generic products.
Not to mention ashwagandha is an herb used for 500+ years, so its not like they discovered it, and we license KSM 66 in a few of our products
 
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I for one support patients !!!
 
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Right on you.
 
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I think a higher dose of lower standardized withanolides is slightly superior but I'm sure Synapsin can clear that up.
 
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The last research I recall (for weightlifting) was 600mg of KSM-66. Unless you get a deal (like it looks like you did) the Swanson causes you to have to take 3 caps (750mg) - so any product that offers 300mg caps may be a better value. Hard to beat a volume discount Jarrow buy at some places.
 
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The last research I recall (for weightlifting) was 600mg of KSM-66. Unless you get a deal (like it looks like you did) the Swanson causes you to have to take 3 caps (750mg) - so any product that offers 300mg caps may be a better value. Hard to beat a volume discount Jarrow buy at some places.
This. There are many studies using 600mg/day KSM-66, showing many benefits. KSM-66 is standardized for 5% withanolides, while Sensoril is standardized for 8-10% if I recall, and some studies have also noted benefits using a 2.5% extract, etc. The important thing is the daily withanolide content, and that it's standardized according to HPLC, not UV/titration/etc, which would give inflated readings, meaning you wouldn't be getting as much withanolides as with the "same" standardization if you're not using a HPLC standardized extract. KSM-66 and Sensoril are good to go, as are some other extracts.
 

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Just ordered 2 bottles of the Jarrow. When do you guys take it? Would it best best to take before bed to help with anxiety induced insomnia?
 
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Just ordered 2 bottles of the Jarrow. When do you guys take it? Would it best best to take before bed to help with anxiety induced insomnia?
300mg upon waking and 300mg prior to bed
 
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This. There are many studies using 600mg/day KSM-66, showing many benefits. KSM-66 is standardized for 5% withanolides, while Sensoril is standardized for 8-10% if I recall, and some studies have also noted benefits using a 2.5% extract, etc. The important thing is the daily withanolide content, and that it's standardized according to HPLC, not UV/titration/etc, which would give inflated readings, meaning you wouldn't be getting as much withanolides as with the "same" standardization if you're not using a HPLC standardized extract. KSM-66 and Sensoril are good to go, as are some other extracts.
This is what I pretty much think too. Like Synapsin said, it's an herb that's been used for hundreds of years. The evidence points to the withanolides being the important factor, and although there are different types of withanolides - a standardized product should be superior to just straight herbs any day.

Also, some people say Sensoril is more calming, KSM-66 is more energizing. Wonder what others think on here? I've used standardized extracts and KSM-66 but never Sensoril...mainly because of the love on this board, but I wonder if Sensoril may have a place too.
 

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