Unanswered Are company sponsored supplements research/trials/experiments always dubious?

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I was just reading about how Astaxanthin is capable of increasing muscle size and strength and the study was sponsored by the company that made the product. Should I immediately discount the findings/study/results?
 
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Don’t discount them but always look for other sources/studies. If there’s no other studies then definitely don’t believe them till you find another.
 
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I was just reading about how Astaxanthin is capable of increasing muscle size and strength and the study was sponsored by the company that made the product. Should I immediately discount the findings/study/results?
The question you have to ask yourself is this: if the company didn't sponsor the study, who would? If all they are doing is funding it, then provided who is actually conducting the study knows what they're doing and is trust worthy, then that's what matters.

Unfortunately a lot of companies have been gravitating toward using a certain person for completing sponsored studies and it almost guarantees a positive result.
 
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The question you have to ask yourself is this: if the company didn't sponsor the study, who would? If all they are doing is funding it, then provided who is actually conducting the study knows what they're doing and is trust worthy, then that's what matters.

Unfortunately a lot of companies have been gravitating toward using a certain person for completing sponsored studies and it almost guarantees a positive result.
Pretty much this.

You have to delve deeper than the abstract and even sometimes just the conclusion. Read the actual methods and results. The “findings” can be manipulated by how you present, but you can usually catch that being done if you know what to read and look for.
 

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I was just reading about how Astaxanthin is capable of increasing muscle size
^that study says there was no (significant) increase in muscle size that could be conclusively attributed to the supplement? Where are you reading it increases muscle size (with data) OP?
 

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Also you have to look at the exact conditions of a study before drawing a conclusion. The study was in 65-82 hear olds. You would find that taking either ibuprofen or paracetamol would be anabolic in that age group, just by allowing greater mobility
DHEA is anabolic - bit only in post menopausal women. It would do nothing anabolic in 18-50 year old men.
 
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^that study says there was no (significant) increase in muscle size that could be conclusively attributed to the supplement? Where are you reading it increases muscle size (with data) OP?
The study shows claims there is an increase in "strength endurance". They gave each person a 42.5 KG barbell in a smith machine to squat. The placebo group increased their squatting by 9 reps at the end of the study. The astaxanthin group increased their squats by 27 reps at the end of the study. So at the same strength output, they could do it more times = strength endurance.

The astaxanthin group also gained half the weight of the placebo group. (1 vs. 2.1)...not sure this really applies too much to muscle building, but it may be helpful to runners or even sprinters.
 
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The study shows claims there is an increase in "strength endurance". They gave each person a 42.5 KG barbell in a smith machine to squat. The placebo group increased their squatting by 9 reps at the end of the study. The astaxanthin group increased their squats by 27 reps at the end of the study. So at the same strength output, they could do it more times = strength endurance.

The astaxanthin group also gained half the weight of the placebo group. (1 vs. 2.1)...not sure this really applies too much to muscle building, but it may be helpful to runners or even sprinters.
Or perhaps weight class contested sports such as MMA, grappling, wrestling, etc. I can see this as a possible “in season” supplement for these athletes.

Additionally, the age group of the study was college age and not old people :)
 
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Pretty much this.

You have to delve deeper than the abstract and even sometimes just the conclusion. Read the actual methods and results. The “findings” can be manipulated by how you present, but you can usually catch that being done if you know what to read and look for.
yep actually read the study and see how it was conducted.....in some cases you will have too many unanswered questions to fully rely on the studies results
 
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^that study says there was no (significant) increase in muscle size that could be conclusively attributed to the supplement? Where are you reading it increases muscle size (with data) OP?
This one right here. Although the muscle size increase was seen in older folks.
 

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